Do you support Article 13?
Portuguese MP against article13 voted in favor by mistake.
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Democracy at its finest XD
But being serious, is there even a protocol for when that happens, like anywhere?
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yeah, there is, it will be rectified...not that it matters.
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I still find it part hilarious and part worrysome, cos I've never stopped to think about it but now I realize that that probably happens in all countries somewhat frequently and politicians just roll with it in order to avoid looking like idiots.
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Missclick I think or maybe we have a some politicians here ;)
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On paper it definitely looks pretty bad.
In reality, the amount of work, money, and time needed to effectively filter "copyrighted content" everywhere means it's probably going to be applicated very leniently.
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In reality, the amount of work, money, and time needed to effectively filter "copyrighted content" everywhere means it's probably going to be applicated very leniently.
That'd mean that the people who enforce the law are the ones that need to filter it. The EU doesn't filter the content themselves. They don't even pursue legal action against the sites most likely. Instead, it's legislation that they'll just arbitrate whenever someone issues a complaint. It's basically like any other law.
So there's no reason to think that the EU applies new legislation and then suddenly say "Oh, it's hard for you to figure out what we demanded in 2 years, let's just pretend it doesn't really exist". This isn't the M.O. of the EU. They're one of the biggest sticklers for keeping to their own legislation. Would it be any country alone, I'd guess what you said as well, but the EU's track record just doesn't support the likelihood that they'll essentially abandon the law.
It's good to be optimistic though.
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What I meant is that it will probably be another tool for big copyright holders to get their weekly Benjamins, but smaller ones won't really have the resources to dedicate towards finding infringement, filing complaints etc.
Although I'm indeed trying to be optimistic about it.
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or not at all.
It's just a political move to make the people funding the candidates happy that they look like they are taking their "problems" seriously.
It's as if they were trying to regular air particles and preventing certain particles from floating in the EU, it's ridiculous and they know it. It's all for show. Especially with VPN and proxies and all the ways to avoid geolocation.
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So there are 44 people who actually support this useless law? I wonder... do they work for big movie companies or something?
Another unenforceable law that will just cost more money than save any. I can't wait to see the European Meme Police and the Twitter Police start breaking heads lol
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Why are people demonizing the effect of this article. No, it's not like all memes will be erased and everything You said will be controlled. People are exaggerating.
EDIT: Before You all will hate and threaten me, I never said I am for or against. Just stating the fact. People thinks everything will suddenly flips 180° now. It won't.
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No, it's not like all memes will be erased and everything You said will be controlled.
There's no fair use. Content filters will almost certainly filter out any copyrighted material. So yes, that kills around 80-90% of all memes. Almost 100% of concurrent memes. That's what it will do, otherwise websites risk getting into legal action against some of the biggest companies around. So yeah, while, "Dat boi", Rage comics and other crude drawings will still exist, any copyrighted stuff will not fly anymore. If you look around for memes, the majority of them will be with copyrighted material.
What you said won't be controlled directly, but this kills artistic vision. Yeah, memes are art. They're just consumer art. It's comedy and just simple creativity. And of course it's also just reposting and so on too. That's the Internet culture and that also shows how dependent the culture was on more professional works. The only good thing from this would be that Minion memes are finally going to die.
Why are people demonizing the effect of this article.
If you read the legislation properly, then you'll see why. It's so terribly open-ended and so far off to the other side of the law that it's basically going to break necks with the whiplash it creates. The Internet is the modern Wild West. No doubt about it. Crime and just no real law enforcement exists. It's obvious that the Internet has a load of money going into and out of it, but at the same time, there's more competition that ever, so no one's getting filthy rich from their art anymore. It's as simple as that. So something being done is not the bad thing. It's that this legislation is extreme. Very extreme.
Did you know that game developers and publishers are legally already completely in the right when they take down gameplay videos? They already had the power. They just didn't know how to use it and make a good product that'd redirect most profits to them again. So now they're going to get an easy mode where they can exploit all of this. This does nothing but hurt the consumers. As much as Minion memes should have their collective head on a spike, I just can't approve the idea that there's no middle ground with using copyrighted content.
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This is not truth. Filtering exists already. And what? Do You know any examples of such things?
Also no, memes are not art. They could be, but memes are mostly for fun and troll. Artistic memes, that has some inention,... maybe there is 1% of them? Not more. Most of memes are ANTI-artistic. Cause You COPY what someone else said, instead of create, invent thing. So no, memes are not art. Mostly they are completely opposite.
Creativity, as the name say is to create something. Memes are to copy something. This is completely different. Basically creative memes are very rare. Can't even think of one.
I never said anything about the article. I said about the effect of it. So the whole paragraph is non sequitur.
Also, I will add this. I would rather remove ALL copyright law than make it as it was before or after article 13. Because Copyright law is a crime against humanity ITSELF.
But I am talking about real effect of the Article. That nothing will change that much. People are exaggerating. It was bad, it will be bad, but not as bad, as everyone think. This is exactly a paranoia. Big companies know that if they did that, even if they wanted to, it would kill THEM. So they won't. As long as they care for money, they won't do that. Cause it's like killing whole population of gold ducks.
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Did you know that game developers and publishers are legally already completely in the right when they take down gameplay videos? They already had the power. They just didn't know how to use it and make a good product that'd redirect most profits to them again.
They probably knew very well how to use that power, but they didn't (apart from some really paranoid publishers like Nintendo), because gameplay videos are basically free advertising and taking them down would do them more harm than good. For that reason I don't think Art. 13 will have much impact on gameplay videos. Just because you are invested with power doesn't mean you're going to spam it at every occasion.
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Gameplays are both a free ad and also, it's true that many people just watch things so they won't buy the game, cause they don't need anymore. For example, the only reason I even bought Assassin's Creed 2 was because i wanted to show (not literally, cause I never sent him any effect) the YouTuber that he is completely bad at earning the money at this game. So I actually had almost whole villa upgraded at the start of the mission when I could go to the villa for the first time. Without even grinding. I also never bought Metal Gear Solid, cause I don't need to play this game. Except Phantom Pain and once first MGS. Those are two biggest examples. But I actually didn't buy the game after the Let's Play, cause... I knew already what the game is about and I didn't need to play it. And be honest, most of the game have the very same mechanics and older games has even stupidier sometimes. Sometimes the mechanics is just stupid without a reason. So You just watch and not play cause You haven't bought. And with Nintendo prices... this is probably even "truer".
It's not like they were wrong. Just tell me. Do You really think every gamer who hesitated to buy the game, after watching the Let's Play will buy the game? I know most of them won't. And before they watch, they probably would want the game more than after. Cause they feel satiated, like they already "passed" the game. Not with their pad, but by the screen. There are exceptions. It can be adverstising. But it's not only that. For example I never buy a game before I watch it on YouTube. I want to know if I like the gameplay. However, Nintendo at least make demos. Other companies... usually don't.
Also I agree. Article will have some bad effect. But we already are in not good position. And it won't be sudden change of everything, like people tend to think. It's not like one lethal illness incident will make an epidemic.
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Because Google doesn't like it so it has put a lot of effort and money to spread lies about the article. Just look at OP, he still thinks the article doesn't contemplate fair use, which is completely false (it was added on September). And that's just one example.
The problem is a lot of people only listen/read to what one extreme tells them, instead of trying to read from people with different points of view.
The article has good things and bad things. The bad things are nowhere as apocalyptic as some people want you to believe.
It's basically Brexit all over again: people are lied to (becasue people don't check what they're told by one of the extremes, and don't listen to anything else), making them vote yes, and after that and things start happening, it turns out a lot of those things were lies and now people want to vote again.
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YouTube at one point started to scare people with the terrible outcome. I've seen that. That's because they will have to try more. It will be bad mainly for big companies.
And as You said, it has bad and good sides. I'm generally not for the article, but I also am not saying how bad it will be. If it was meant to be very bad, people would go and riot or just make protests bigger than ever. This is because we have democracy. But it won't be that bad. It will be bad for some reasons, but people make the devil out of... I dunno... just some minor evil things? And that's exactly how I feel, bad things will happen, but with no apocalyptic strength.
Society is stupid. It mainly listen to extremists. That's why we have antivaxxers, anti-gmo and other stupid things. Like who the hell even thought Flat Earth will be point of believing again. I firstly thought people are trolling, when they started doing this. Then I learned, they are not.
We will have to just accomodate to new law and then we will think what we need to change again. Also Trump was meant to be super bad too. I don't know if he is super good or not, but I don't see that much problems as people predicted. That's how life works. Things changes. Sometimes to worse. Sometimes to better. Sometimes it's neither, but the mix of it or just pure neutral. And we have to live. Staying alive.
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Leave the EU ... Article 666 will be taxing all oxygen consumption in all EU states by 2025.
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If this actually kills memes, that's a net positive, regardless of any other effects.
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https://www.wired.co.uk/article/eu-article-13-vote-article-17
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