They are just silly. Look at their Pokemon, Mario and Super Meat Boy parody games to realize that.
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I am not bothered by it honestly. I don't eat meat also...mainly because I love animals.
But yeah I see it all as fake/polygons, so it doesn't seem wrong to me, if thats wrong then shooting people in FarCry 3 also is wrong.
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I didn't play FC3 yet, but did it really have to be done? No way of avoiding it? I mean I really don't know anything about FC3 yet, so I don't know if it's a part of a quest, achievement, storyline or something.
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You can complete the game without killing any animal, I believe (still haven't completed it), if you want to be limited to carry 1 weapon, 3 syringes, 16 items and a wallet that can only hold $1000 when most weapons cost way more than that.
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No I mean dishonered really wasn't into making you kill animals you could have chose to not kill the dogs. Where as Far cry 3 is one of those games that you have to just for the upgrades and a mission or two.
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Where is the line against the aggressive actions that PETA takes? They are nothing but a group of adults that act like they are small children. They want it their way and when it doesn't happen, they throw a tantrum. PETA is the most pathetic excuse of an organization that I know about.
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A lot of the stuff that seems to make it big from P.E.T.A. seems the be the stupidest stuff. While yes doing that kind of whaling in current times is "unethical, and just plain wrong" its a game dang it peta... why do they got to try and ruin games? I mean heck the tooki suit they claim that mario rips off the animals... have they even played the game? He gets its from a dang leaf. Also the pokemon game they did? That one is just down right a low blow. while yes their are some that dont take care of their pokemon but if they watched ANY of the series they would see the first few if not the first episode ash actually risks his life to SAVE pikachu. I think Peta needs to do a little more research on their games before they assume things.
TL:DR - PETA being stupid usual, they havent researched thier games... move on.
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and the funny thing is they went after the guy who pointed it out as being a "corporate shil" who only did so because meat industries and medical testing labs paid him to, without even trying to deny his statistics. so apparently he was right and it was easier to try and fight him than his info
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Definitely not more than anyone else... They're massively hypocritical but lets not blow it out of proportion. :D
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There's one bit of good news in there - the founder was sterilized so we don't have to worry about miniature versions of her running around. (Speaking of her, you guys saw her will right?)
But yeah... I don't see how the hell they think they're doing any "good," or better than anyone else even, with all that killing.
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Soo, they've donated to whale boat attackers, protested against KFC and The Beef Industry and have ties to environmentalist groups persecuted by the FBI.
Is that poster supposed to make me hate them or like them?
Anyway, I'd like to see more data than pure numbers on the killed animals. How many of those are cases of untreatable diseases? What are the actual criteria for euthanasia?
And I'd like to see a proper source on those budget claims. If true, that would be more than enough to condemn the entire organization.
As for AC4, I agree with their position. Historical accuracy is a terrible excuse for games, especially that particular series. Simulating whaling is about as bad as simulating a school shooting or something of the sort.
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i agree with some sources, except the last part, why it is a terrible excuse?, in 17 whaling was a big thing and it was mostly done to get resources, you know what every other predator does? plus its pixelated, no whales is getting hurt or damaged, ann im sure 80% of the people who will play ac4 are not stupid enough to doit in real life and the other 19% are just kiddies who dont have the sources to even get close to doit, whaling and school shooting in games dont get even close, the first one is made because they needed the meat and the resources from the whales and the second one is made because they are sick fucks.
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I agree with you Catnip. Animals at least are loyal and don't start wars on humanity. Plus mean people suck. And those mean people that suck create mean animals whether they be pets or animals in general. If you kill an animal for sport, you deserve to be shot for sport. If you kill an animal for food, that's survival. Killing animals in a game is in a game. Though I admit to getting tired of killing wolves in Majesty 2. I hated doing it and it was pointless and frustrating.
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saw some bird population study in texas said a well fed indoor outdoor cat in the suburbs guts on average 6 songbirds or chipmunks a day for literally no reason(most of them slowly so it can play with them before they die) eats maybe 1.5, brings one home as a gift and leaves the rest there to rot. the things are like that guy from saw. how is that about survival?
cats should be leashed or kept inside, they decimate the environment and one of them nearly killed my pet rabbit when I was 9, only reason it didn't is I heard her scream and punted the little demon(well threw it over my shoulder at a tree technically(it lived)). my neighbor was pissed but fuck him.
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Your world of view is askew. Starting with people being animals themselves and your exclusion of yourself from your absolute statement, on out to many animal societies are built on intimidation and cruelty to others of their own specie.
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Strangers are funny that way. Perhaps you should explain yourself better next time.
P.S. And what does one's nationality has to do with anything?
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"PETA calls whaling in AC IV "disgraceful" " <== Fuck you PETA! Why not protest world war 2, cause it was disgraceful. Why not pull a fucking drape across our eyes! Let's censor everything that we find "disgraceful" and "offensive" to the point where you ask a retarded 20 year old in the future about the holocaust and he says "Holocaust was not real, faggot!"
Who funds these people? Is there really nothing better to do with all that money for something so goddamn pointless. I would think finding a cure for Cancer or Aids, and then rewarding said scientists with booze and hookers is far more important than fucking virtual whaling. Pixels have feelings too indeed!
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But you do need to learn it from somewhere. If PETA succeeds in their endeavour, there will be no knowledge left in any media.
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I feel sad when stick cat on gun barrel but feel nothing when shot at innocent civilian at air port. （ー△ー；） Seriously since when people stop consider those .... complete unreal stuff in game is the same as do the same act in real life. God i kill ton of animal and people in game,yet i'm a animal lover in real life. Moral of the story : just complete ignore them,
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Wow dont mess with a gamer,they will shitstorm you on every forum on the internet.
Aside the point that it really is bullshit crying about killing animals in video games all that hate without any real reason (butthurt?). Also every fucking site posting the article links back to venturebeat,venturebeat isnt providing any source or name. Official peta sources have nothing on this. So if they would whore for media it would at least be on their own site,too. To me this is just ridiculous and probably bad journalism.
Also,yeah... CCF financed stuff against Peta is probably the best source...cause its the easiest to find on google ;)
Other than that,if its really true,then yeah. Total waste of effort and bullshit whining about.
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As someone who doesn't eat meat and fucking loves animals...
Fuck Peta and the hypocritical plane they rode in on...
Also if I can kill a person in a game, I for one have 0 issues with killing an animal in game.
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On the side it says "79,167 people like PETA Kills Animals". Wut? :o
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+1, PETA is a shitton contraproductive when it comes to protecting animals in one way or another. No one gets them seriously, everyone mocks them, I am ashamed when someone even asks if I'm associated in any way with them.
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why they don't just release all of those animal, if they can survival of thier own on urban enviroment or wildlife near the city that a good thing, no harm done when doing this isn't it
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Because that leads to problems also but the thing is that other organizations that rescue animals also do what Peta does but not to such a large extent and some don't perform euthanasia or kill animals at all, those are the no kill shelters, Peta is pretty much the worst though with the kill rate pretty much over 90% in most years...
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Industry accepts killing civilians in an airport while they are zombie mutants with a chainsaw. But please don't touch their pets.
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I think that of all the animal cruelty in games to pick, the whaling is the least important. It is in 18-something. It was normal then and as far as I know, there were enough whales at that time to go around. Sure, it is cruel to the big guys of the sea, but it is not (completely) senseless cruelty that occurs for no reason. Unlike the oppertunity gamers get to kill farm animals and domestic animals in some games.
Or those hunting games. I think that would be a bigger issue for PETA, because when you play those games, you really make a attempt to bring flourishing species closer to extinction, just 'cause you like shooting them.
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True, but we're talking about another time period where it was "normal" and about a game. If you go back in history people did a lot of questionable stuff, to put it mildly. From their perspective it was normal to hunt whales as a resource. Just like they did with other animals, in the sea and on the land.
The random killing of animals in games is for no other reason then "because I can" and "fun". Whales would be used for resources (and yes, it remains horrific how the whales suffer) and it is just there to show a part of history of that time, while a player, e.g., kicking the dog in Haunting Ground or killing chickens in Skyrim is just plain cruelty for fun and has no context to it.
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The problem is that the same rules aren't applied to everything. In some periods of history it was normal for men to beat their wives. Throughout a lot of history it was normal for soldiers to rape as much as they wanted when capturing an enemy settlement. That doesn't mean we get to do those things in games, or that we should.
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surely we dont, but they are doing in for the history accuracy, and whaling like i said before, was an important thing to do, since mostly the resources they gave were preety usefull for a lot of sea travelers and other people, it was still questionable, but we cant change history.
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Why not? Such actions should not be excluded from any depiction of an appropriate time period. Truth prevail your false sense or morality.
Incidentally, mane men still think it's their God given right to beat up their wives, and soldiers still rape people after capturing an enemy settlement.
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When pokemon and cooking mama isn't enough.... Is it just me or suing pointless things are PETA's hobby?
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Modern human and animals rights are obviously more important than historical accuracy. Get your heads out of the past, guys. We need to alter videogames, movies, even textbooks to reflect the ideals we support today.
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+1 that the spirit we need to look acurately at the past to know and act different today
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You are my heroes , Also they include the loli pantsu,fan service shot of Emily inside too
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if you REALLY not know, i beg you don't try to know, It the black hole of anime world, please don't venture any further
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And she beat everyone from soldier , guard to weeper with the high concentrate beam of "friendship" and force them become her friend
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PETA have slammed the inclusion of whaling in Assassins Creed IV.
Obviously this isn't the sort of acceptable whaling that goes on nowadays (solely for scientific research), but the mean 18th century sort, that was all about cruelty and making money.
Where should the line of acceptability be drawn in games? Is it acceptable to kill rats? Or whales? Or civilians in an airport?
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