Greetings community,

I wanted to take a moment out of your weekend to remind you all that SteamGifts is worldwide. If we see you harassing non-English speaking members or members foreign to you for those reasons, I will give you a warning. This will be your only warning. If seen displaying this behavior again, it will result in a suspension until further notice. Prejudice will not be tolerated. We appreciate your understanding.

-regards

12 years ago*

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+1

12 years ago
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+1
also just use google translate

12 years ago
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It really sucks.. and can cause even more trouble..

12 years ago
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speek inglish knext t1m3 u illegal!!!1!

:P

12 years ago
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English ( you have Basic english)

12 years ago
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cause 1337 wasn't in enough pain already :\

12 years ago
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my name is

12 years ago
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what?

12 years ago
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owned

12 years ago
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What? Speak up you whippersnappers

12 years ago
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lol

12 years ago
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slim shady

12 years ago
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Will you please stand up?

12 years ago
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Actually, I'd rather float.

12 years ago
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ok sefe, razumio sam

12 years ago
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+1

12 years ago
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Dus niemand heeft er bezwaar tegen als ik van nu af aan gewoon Nederlands praat, en als iemand er wat van zegt krijgen ze een schop van de admin? Nice~

:P

12 years ago
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slobodno, pricaj kojim god jezikom zelis

12 years ago
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Het wordt zo echter wel een rotzooitje als iedereen zijn eigen taal gaat spreken, allemaal door elkaar in het zelfde draadje.

12 years ago
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If you feel you need to speak Dutch because it's easier and you don't need to use a translator, by all means. Abusing our policies in hopes it'll get another member suspended is dirty pool. I'd simply suspend the both of you.

12 years ago
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Well, of course it's easier to speak the language you've learned from birth. I doubt I'll make much use of it here though, since I like to think my English is pretty acceptable.

12 years ago
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потрать дурила Проще рублей потратить, чем поинтов. Автор совсем охренел спасибо! надеюсь выиграть!

12 years ago
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What the fc*k am i reading?

12 years ago
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I'm going to take a complete stab in the dark and say it's probably another language other than what you know.

Take this, it's dangerous to go alone.

12 years ago
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lokonopa, do you think it's possible to implement some sort of google translate javascript, so that you can say, click a button, and it will translate it straight away and post? i know it'd be some tricky work. But if something is worth doing, it's worth doing right. And i like to make things as easy to use as possible :) being the nice guy that i am

12 years ago
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That post is written in russian language. I am from russia, and that post looks like copypaste of all russian posts he found at that moment. With no sense in it.

12 years ago
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waste stupid easier rubles waste, then points. author absolutely crazy thanks!hope to win!

im russian and you use google translate, have a nice day :3

12 years ago
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lol

12 years ago
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How about giving warnings to people that make extremely useless comments that don't assist the OP in any way? They could just, y'know, NOT post anything at all.

Ex: Person A asks a question about how to make a giveaway. Person B replies with some phrase that a non-English speaking person used previously. Person B, in no way, answers Person A's question.

12 years ago
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Really? Sounds like you're new to the internet. How about you simply ignore additional comments that don't add to the topic at hand.

12 years ago
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If you want to try and make this community better, I don't see how allowing people to make useless/insulting/etc. comments helps in any way.

My point is: if you're going to take such a huge stance on people harassing non-English speaking people, why not also give warnings for other things that don't help the community?

No offense or anything, lokonopa, but my initial post was merely a suggestion and it was not meant as a reflection on you by any means (hence your response). I realize it's the Internet and that people will undoubtedly make stupid posts. Does that mean that people should do nothing about it? Or should people learn to read the rules and respect others?

12 years ago
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AMG! Tha Mods be trolling u bra! but srsly stop tha QQ cuz u cn alwayz liek not reed. Duh!

12 years ago
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"If you want to try and make this community better, I don't see how allowing people to make useless/insulting/etc. comments helps in any way."
Because almost everything can be considered "useless"(skim through the topics: ads, personal opinions, ads...) and this forum would be an emotional equivalent of a work office.
Trust me, there's nothing worse for a forum than to be boring.

12 years ago
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I will clarify then. How do phrases like "this key for demo" and "sturgeon" help (aside from that rare instance where the key is for the demo)? Yes, it might be funny when they occur but how does it help future discussions/threads?

I'm not saying give warnings for everything but when someone has a genuine question for the website, why should they get treated with those types of comments?

12 years ago
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What thread(s) are you talking about? This is an honest question, I have not seen this.

12 years ago
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There's lots of alternatives to sg if you're really bothered by, let's say meme's of the site. If you want to see something helpful though then this part of my comment is not it

12 years ago
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I don't think you quite understand the point that I'm trying to get across. I'm all for letting people have fun on the forums and posting about whatever they want.

However, when people are harassing others on giveaways or barking on someone because they have a question, I don't see the point in it and that's where I think the line should be drawn.

As incog mentioned, inside jokes can bring a community together and I'm totally fine with that but people need to realize that they can't be used in every single situation.

12 years ago
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Well I mostly agree with what you said, but 1) there is a support section so if people want a legit answer, they should spend 10 seconds looking for the proper place to get it, and 2) policing this unruly mass to that extent would probably require more manpower than is currently available. I mean there are only like 4 mods or something, right? and since nobody ever reads the FAQs, they'd have to discipline like 100 people a day

12 years ago
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That post settles it. Good job, Incog.

12 years ago
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That's true. Concerning giveaway comments though, people seem to post whatever they want on there, especially when giveaways seem to be fake. The reasoning behind my initial suggestion was not to censor people but to create a more friendly environment.

Policing the unruly mass would be an extremely strenuous task. However, I don't think you necessarily need hundreds of people, for example, constantly moderating the forum. You just need to give out warnings/punishment as needed and, with time, the amount of unnecessary behaviour would hopefully be reduced. I realize that this process would have growing pains in the beginning due to the amount of work involved but it's not something that can't be done. I mean, you don't need to be an admin to know when someone is harassing or insulting someone else.

12 years ago
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Censoring inside jokes is supposed to help the community grow?

12 years ago
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Fair enough. I agree that someone simply saying ""this key for demo" and "sturgeon"" is annoying and was only funny when the bad English speaking guy said it.

12 years ago
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I don't think acting as if you are in a mexican standoff whenever you post is going to help much in the long run.

But I'm just oldfashioned to the internet.

12 years ago
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im part of the talking :D

12 years ago
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Does worldwide include Russia?

I think we should vote on this, guys.

edit: oh u

12 years ago
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You're going to have a vote to remove Russia from the world?

12 years ago
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Lold

12 years ago
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Maybe we should vote for Germany, too. Or better, the whole Europe!

Wait, how about we consider just the US as worldwide? Yeah, that would be!.... Oh, wait.

12 years ago
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Great suggestions, thank you.

I'll just write those down, and submit them to be scrutinized by a panel of biased judges.

12 years ago
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Some years ago Russia almost exclude Germany from worldwide, so he just has some butthurt about it, i mean

12 years ago
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I was going to say the same thing lol.

In all fairness I've been part of an international community for most of my life, I understand respect for all others.

12 years ago
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You've got anything against me?

12 years ago
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Any problems bro?

12 years ago
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I can share some vodka with you, mate! Or send you some matreshka-dolls or balalaika.

12 years ago
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Just to be clear, could you please define "harassment"?

12 years ago
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Using someone's lack of english in a demeaning or insulting way when not justified.

12 years ago
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Thanks.

12 years ago
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To be clear, this means any language can be used here?

I expect an answer in Klingon, dog, clicks, beeps, whistles, chirps, or bull roarer
12 years ago
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lugh

12 years ago
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12 years ago
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lokonopa, do you think it's possible to implement some sort of google translate javascript, so that you can say, click a button, and it will translate it straight away and post? i know it'd be some tricky work. But if something is worth doing, it's worth doing right. And i like to make things as easy to use as possible :) being the nice guy that i am

12 years ago
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This wouldn't actually be possible. Google Translate has an API for exactly this sort of thing, but it's not free.

12 years ago
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makes sense, why provide a free version when there are those willing to pay for the convenience. thanks lunboks

12 years ago
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use chrome and then right click...."Translate to English"

12 years ago
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this.

12 years ago
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i like to think that this post is just for me :P

12 years ago
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Yay

12 years ago
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Well, I think that this rule will make everything more confortable here XD

12 years ago
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Except for Dikkun, make him feel super uncomfortable.

12 years ago
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Shhhh, don't let'em now my secret, silly Yatter-kun D:< XD

12 years ago
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Good to know this is being applied, Gracias!

12 years ago
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Glad to see a mod put this out there as the official position for SG :) It's nice to come to this site and see a diverse set of people excited over games that we all can appreciate.

Where are the Koreans at? Let's be friends :)

12 years ago
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+1

12 years ago
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Can we still make fun of Canadians?

12 years ago
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Only if it doesn't lead to a war of censorship

12 years ago
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HANKTAY OUYAY ORFAY TOPPINGSAY EOPLEPAY ISCRIMINATINGDAY AGAINSTAY EOPLEPAY HATTAY PEAKSAY OREIGNFAY ANGUAGESLAY!!!!!

12 years ago
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Get out of here you dirty pig latin, lern2inglish
(jk obviously)

12 years ago
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AYE!

12 years ago
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Labai ačiū, ponas lokonopa! Aš tai labai mėgstu.

12 years ago
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And yet, nothing said about a vice-versa? Oh, right, you have nobody to translate and police that. ಠ__ಠ

12 years ago
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Because using Google Chrome to translate, or extensions, or using one of many online translator services... yeah. Hasn't been a problem. I've never seen a non-English speaking member insulting someone in another language that went unnoticed.

12 years ago
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I was pointing out the canter in your statement.

Tolerate other cultures =/= Intolerant Native English-Speakers will not be tolerated.

You decided to threaten a specific cultural group in a statement that is intended to dissuade people from cultural bias. You are commonly more rational than this.

This next bit, however, is pretty much just arguing, for the sake of it (so disregard it if you choose, since it's simply a bit of devil's advocacy) : I find no comfort in knowing that the policing of my behavior towards a non-English speaker is being monitored by native English speakers, but the same policy monitors them by means of sub-par, non-native translator services. This creates discrepencies. What nuances of English that carry a subtle insult will be caught, but subtle insults in Croatian are likely to go unnoticed, simply because google translate didn't "get" that the guy was referring to my sexual preferences rather than my likelihood to purchase a dog. Native Speakers always have a clear advantage over non-native speakers. It is why Esperanto was created. =P

In short: English Speakers better be nice. Non-English Speakers are safe.

12 years ago
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It has nothing to do with prejeduice when you ask someone politely to post in english.

I think you are going the wrong way. Especially for international sites it is important that everyone sticks to one language so we can understand each other. Otherwise you gonna have babylon on the forums.

Or you simply implement different forums for each language.

TF2R does this right, they enforce english so everyone understands each other. I think that is a good thing.

ps.: I am not a native english speaker

12 years ago
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+1

12 years ago
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I have no issue with using translate to try to understand and be understood more clearly; however, just as there are those who make fun of people who speak other languages in english, there are those who purposely de-rail conversations in other languages. I'd like to know that these people will also be warned and then kicked the same way.

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Well, according to the reply I was given (see above), they would catch them as well... So, yes, they would.

Assuming that the translation catches the implied meaning, that is.

Edit for clarity: I'm in the "I suppose it's better than nothing at all" camp.

12 years ago
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Bad idea. Promotes de-railing and harassing.

12 years ago
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Closed 12 years ago by lokonopa.