Seriously, this is why I hate gifting on a private profile.

Why can't we have a rule stating that all Profile must be public to win a giveaway in steamgifts -_-
I mean what's there to hide anyways?

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my face.

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BUT ... YOU ARE HANDSOME .

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good reason!

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Yeah, that should be a rule.

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+1

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-5

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+1000

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make it an optuon

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-Infinity

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+Chuck Norris

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And I think we make ourselves a great site rule :D

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-Nicolas Cage

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^This.

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How do you know it was almost re-traded? Did the winner just decide to tell you?

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I hired a private sherlock

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I met this "Sherlock". Guy was an idiot, barely had any education. If I had to guess..I'd say barely..

Elementary, my dear watson.

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And still he caught him red-handed. That's how bad was the situation

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dramatic sigh

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Ok that was good :)

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+1 - I'm curious

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Well, I can understand friend only, but completely private should not be allowed.

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This could be a decent compromise. You could hardly deny a friend request from a person trying to give you a game

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the problem is, he deleted you and you can't confirm if he activated or not

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+1

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True, didn't think about that. Somebody else mentioned having the weekly(?) sync also compare your library to your wins. That could help with this

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His game list is not public though so you still can't confirm if he activated the game or not

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You have to make your profile public when the website asks you to sync, so it would have access to his game list

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I think you missed my point, The website doesn't give you access to know someone's game list

So to confirm that the winner has already activated the game, you should contact support/cg "JUST" to confirm that he already attached the game to his account.

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Why do you need to see it? If the system was capable of cross-referencing games won with the games in their library it would take care of itself.

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That's my point

"IF the system"

oh btw one more, the Site doesn't see DLC If I'm correct

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What you're proposing is
also a hypothetical change


to the current system.

And yes, the site doesn't see DLC. Neither do players (which includes you), so I don't see how having a public profile would change that particular problem at all

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I don't understand your point seriously. If the site can't do it, then having a public profile would allow gifters to confirm that you already activated the game

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My point is that you can implement a change that allows people to maintain some level of privacy, or you can implement a change that forces people to give that up. Presenting only one of those as if it's the only option is simply bad practice.

With that said I think I'm done here

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Yep, I agree, but knowing how many problems there are with syncing even when using completely public profile that would just fuck stuff up even more. There are some times is takes 3 days to sync profile. First need to improve syncing so it works better and only then think about changing rules.

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^ Syncing is should automatically be forced upon receipt of a giveaway

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^this

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+1 Not a bad idea, but not enough...

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You're a very generous person, and you have good ideas. I hope Steamgifts listens to them.

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+1

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Considering that you need a public profile to even join, it makes sense that you should be forced to keep it as such. I'm a bit leery about those who go public only long enough to sync.

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Hi there!

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Ha, greetings. Perhaps then you are the counter to the argument. Having proven yourself to the community, your anonymity is earned through your familiarity. Ironic in a sense.

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I mostly set my profile not to public cause I'm annoyed by all the people who add me or comment on my profile to join groups I'll not invite them to anyway :)

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At least comments can be set to private or friends only. As for friend requests, it is fairly troublesome. I don't recall there being a setting, though I know a number of giveaways require it.

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I concur to this statement.

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I'll conquer this thread. >:P

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you have my axe

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and my sword

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And my pants! wait what!?!?!?!

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cg said some months ago he wants to implement a system to force users to set as public a steam profile if it's private periodically when a sync is scheduled, also checking automatically whether they activated the games or not. Currently, if I'm not wrong, there is an automatic sync every 7 days, so users would have to set temporarily their own profile from private to public at least once a week.

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if the sync checks your wins vs your games, it may help catching people that do not activate their games i guess.

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I'd like to see this implemented, along with a mandatory check when a gift is marked as received (to ensure activation has occurred) in order to continue entering giveaways.

I appreciate this doesn't work for some DLC, but it would be an ideal solution for the games where this is involved.

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Double-checking activation is good!

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You seem to regularly critique this site and how it works, and constantly offer up changes for it, most of which I find totally unnecessary (no real offence intended)

That said, I completely agree with you on this. Friends-only should be fine, but people with completely private profiles shouldn't be allowed.

Also, people who retrade games they win suck.

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if you mean the last one that I suggested, that thread is a joke to ridicule the previous thread that is suggesting to have an auto join giveaways in your wishlist

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I'm not sure I saw that one in particular. Auto join giveaways in your wishlist? That's a terrible idea lol.

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1 - add them and wait for them to friend you
2 - make private giveaways and ask for a rule to have public profiles
3 - ask cg to check it out

Those are the three options Support says you can do in this situation. Don't just send it all willy-nilly when you can't see if they own it already.

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I've done option 1, ok I added him as a friend, gave the game, then he deleted you.

What do?

You can't check if he did activated the game or not

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My favorite part of these threads is watching the crazy suggestions from people who have no idea how a database works.

"I don't understand why CG won't implement this solution and create 100,000 extra queries a day!"

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Yeah, why won't he do it?! Web design is easy, amirite?

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I have Microsoft Frontpage and Adobe Dreamweaver, I'm a web design expert!

Let me just use this <h1> tag because I need big bold letters... /facepalm

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It's all about using <center></center> along with the <h1> tag these days, duh!

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Hi. This is completely unrelated to the thread material in every single way, but check your twitter.

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I sure hope so!

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ummm....

250,660 Members

258,368 Received Gifts

and it's during WHOLE SG HISTORY (since it's tracked at last)

So how forcing sync after winning giveaway create 100k queries a day? o.O

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100,000 may be a bit of an exaggeration, but thanks for proving my point that people don't understand.

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proving how exactly? by pointing you your mistake? Of course it would create additional actions, i never said it wouldn't - i just arguead with your OVERLY exagerrated number. Which proves you're the one that doesn't understand ;P

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I'm no computer expert, but I believe his point is this (using an arbitrary "me" as an example):

I have 200 games registered to my steam account, and since I'm a lucky bastard I won two games today. Next time the site syncs with my profile it would have to check my library for these existing games. Computers being what they are, it doesn't search my entire library at once.

Best-case scenario it compares the steamID of the first game I won with each entry in my library (now presumably 202,) and then does the same for the second game I won. 404 extra queries just for me.

Worst case scenario it does something involving every game on steam, causing a ridiculous amount of queries. Two ridiculous amounts of queries in fact.

This is repeated for every single game won on the site, adding up to a whole lot each time.

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SteamGifts already update the user game libraries by syncing automatically (every week) in order to exclude who already own a game to enter that giveaway. In my opinion, there isn't any performance issue to implement a comparison between won games and game library. It can be delayed or cancelled or run with low priority in case, unlike a response to a page request by a browser.

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Sorry to butt in, but if the Steam database is in any way organized then a good(and simple) algorithm should lower the number of queries down to number of games won * the logarithm of the library entries.
Of course I don't know a thing about how websites work and I could be completely wrong, but that's my two cents. :P

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Oh, I have no idea how actual websites work either - my interpretations are based on how my extremely basic programming knowledge would do it.

How would the algorithm for the library work though? (the more basic explanation the better :P)

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This is the simplest I could think of. Of course I don't know if Steam's database or whatever is sorted and how websites function, so I still have no idea how it would work in the end. ^_^

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I don't understand your point, how did "Database" became related to the topic?

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I deeply apologize that my statement was not relevant to your OP. It was directed towards the suggestions people had made based on your OP.

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Unactivated won game? Ban. It really is that easy. It wont stop it completely but it definitely will help. When a user wins something, ust show him a message: "Activate the game yo, or get banned yo.".

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The "yo" part is especially important.

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Yes, good idea. That messages would be helpful. ;)

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I respect other people's privacy and freedom, so I can't say I agree with this. I haven't made my first giveaway here, but when I do, I won't mind if the winner has a private profile or trades/regifts/never uses the gift, it's his.

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Again back to my OP
What's there to hide anyways? :3

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Well, if he wants his profile to be private, it will stay private. We can only respect that choice.
However, if you know a user that has private profile and suspect him/her of regifting/not activating, write a support ticket, and we will investigate it.

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I'm doing this now

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Maybe they want to hide their 300 hours of Secret of the Magic Crystal playtime?

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It's not a matter of having something to hide. It's a matter of privacy. This is like when you don't allow your girlfriend to use your cellphone or check your emails.

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"I won't mind if the winner has a private profile or trades/regifts/never uses the gift, it's his." - well other may mind, especially as it's AGINST SG rules

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nty x-x friends only but not public, not a fan of strangers

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What is the reason for a private profile in the first place? As for checking won games versus your game list, I figure that would be way to intense for the DB. It would be nice, but these servers are coming out of their pocket (I assume).

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Steamgifts isnt the center of the universe. Some people keep the profile only open to friends or even completely private, to avoid being added by randoms or other people tracking what they've been doing.

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I guess I am not paranoid enough.

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Privacy? Problems with random beggars? Acute personal embarrassment at the number of hours spent playing certain games? Nothing to do with Steamgifts and everything to do with being a sometime grumpy misanthropist :D

I joined Steam to play games, and didn't sign up to a social media site... While I've nothing to hide in terms of Steam or Steamgifts infractions, VAC bans, etc, I am happy with things the way they are and don't see why this should cause anyone else an issue.

That said, if I won a giveaway and the gifter wanted to check my profile, I'd have no hesitation in showing it.

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Well if you did, that would be suspicious in itself.

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Well yes, of course, but I was just pointing out that people who choose to have private profiles might not all be VAC banned scammers intent on trading all their gifts and being mean to small fluffy animals....

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my head hurts

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My gift almost got retarded.

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Closed 11 years ago by MDuh.