So I know we're not to give out region-locked keys, but how does this apply to games that are restricted in Germany?

Some games like this say that keys can't be activated in Germany. Would that be considered a region-locked game?

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Steam store you can gift it to them [someone from Germany], and they can activate it.

Amazon key, they cannot use.

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How odd, so Germans can play the game if they get a Steam Gift but not a Steam Key? What an odd restriction.

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So they will buy it from Steam only, another dollars for valve

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Not quit right.

I'm from Germany and I was able to activate several amazon steam keys that where purchased through the us amazon store and gifted/traded to me.

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We're talking about the few region-restricted keys. AFAIK, most Amazon keys work worldwide.

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He is talking specifically about this game.

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I don't think region-locked is the right terminology here. It's just that the game is not available in Germany for obvious reasons. The problem is that they have so many restrictions and personally I don't feel that it would really be fair to everyone else.

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I love how there is a German translation even though its of no use in Germany. Though I guess restrictions come after the fact. Surely they knew it wouldn't go over well. To answer your question though, I don't believe it counts as region-locked. Region-locked are generally only usable in a single region, like all those CD-Action keys in Poland for instance. Games get blocked from individual regions all the time but that is nothing we're responsible for here.

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I think the German translation would probably still come in handy for other German speaking markets not affected by the lock (Switzerland and Austria, etc.).

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Ah, fair point there, sorry for jumping so quick. Given what the game is about even if there wasn't a German speaking market for it it would likely still have that for the sake of immersion I'd think.

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NOTE: Steam keys will not activate in Germany

Says right on the steam page.

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So stating the obvious with big font is help in any way? More so when OP already said that in thread. It doesn't really answer his question, does it? lulz

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I know it won't activate in Germany, I said it wouldn't right in the OP...

What I'm asking is if a key is restricted to Germans but works for the rest of the world, is that count as a banned game on SG due to "region-lock".

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I think only steam keys are not allowed in germany. I remember germany can purchase cut version (no x-ray bullet time) when sniper elite v2 was just released. So if you're talking about the amazon key, ye I guess that's not allowed

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That makes no sense. Why would a Steam gift copy be any different from a key if they're each only locked in one country?

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it makes perfect sense. You cannot activate the key in germany but if you have a steam gift, germans can activate it. But I'm pretty sure germans will get the cut version.

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sorry? What game are you referring to? or are you talking about all games?

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I just don't get what's your point?

What I'm referring to cut = censored = No x-ray bullet time

Sniper elite v2 in germany is censored. So I'm guessing that if you have a steam gift for zombie army, then it will be censored for germans

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No,USK does not need to review games to get the games to selling. If those games are not reviewed they automatically count as 18+ til they are reviewed or indexed by BPjM. In fact it costs the Devs/publishers money to get the games to the USK.

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well that is totally weird, Maybe something happened after release date or someone gifted it to you because I'm pretty sure at launch date, germans got the cut version.

I got sniper elite v2 at launch date so I know that this is a fact

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i have the uncut version XD

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nope the cut /uncut depends on the key... not on the region you are... that is only for a few games like dead rising 2 otr... you cant play if your ip is in germany.

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This is just an idea... Can steam gift copies of SE:NA be activated in Germany? This is all clearly assuming you wish to create giveaways using the Germany restricted Amazon keys.

If yes, then find a group of well trusted friends (preferably ones who want SE:NA) of yours willing to buy a giftable copy of SE:NA and give it to you in exchange for the key which they can either activate or trade on. You then gift the giftable on SG. Obviously you'd need to make this arrangement lucrative enough to your friends as they might not want to trade the full priced giftable copy for a miss-priced hence $2.50 key. And so this is more hassle than is necessary - you'd be spending a lot on stuff to sweeten the deals...

If the answer to the above question is no, then scrap this.

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Yes, tradeable copies activate fine in Germany, as long as they are not (RU) versions.
So far I had no problems activating (NA) versions, either.

The only game that would be problematic is Dead Rising 2: Off the Record, because it's not only restricted, but forbidden in Germany and an IP check will be performed when installing or starting the game (at least that's what it says on the Steam store page).

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I wasn't using the abbreviation NA for North America if that's what you thought... I was using it as Nazi Army - should probably put a Z for zombie in there but I can't be bothered.

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This game does not have NA or RU regions though, everyone gets the same.

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Easy answer, if a key is region locked but a gift is not, you could create a giveaway and, if the winner isn't from Germany, gift the key, if the winner is from Germany, buy a steam gift ;) (Though, of course, double check with support before attempting this.)

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The problem with that is that the game is full price on Steam :/

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Well, of course, but I guess you could think of it as a gamble, only one restricted country, after all ;)

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And then... it turns out all the entries received were from Germany.

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When the "no region-locked gifts" rule was made, I imagine it was made with, well, regions in mind. Germany is a country, not a region. The EU or Asia would be examples of regions. SE: NA activates in the rest of the EU. So if, hypothetically, a game key could activate in any country except Zimbabwe, would it still be banned from here? If not, where is the line drawn?

As long as it is made clear in the description where a key can or cannot be activated (what better use of the description box could there be?), I really don't see the problem. Illiterate people generally don't use the Internet. Providing a German translation, in this case, would also overcome any potential language barrier.

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This is pretty much the impression I was under. When I read "region locked", I imagine a key that can only be used in one region. This is the opposite, it can be used everywhere but one place, so I wouldn't think it would apply. However that decision really rests upon SG support.

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That's what I was thinking as well. Also, I've seen other giveaways of Sniper: Nazi Army on the site with no issues (though they may have been gifts rather than keys).

I would like to hear Support's word on this as a restriction to one country out of the whole world shouldn't ban a whole game, should it?

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^this

Biggest problem were probably russian keys that cant be activated in half of the world

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some games cannot be obtained in the german story,but activated no matter if key or item

some games work when gifted as item,but not activating a key

some games cannt be used from germany at all (even if activated via VPN you wont be able to install/play them from here)

Counting those games as "region restricted" just because germany cant activate it a lot of giveaways here on the site wouldnt be allowed.

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This is my personal opinion on the subject. I can't tell you support's view without discussing it with other members (at this time no one is available ;_;).

If a game cannot be activated in certain region(s), it is region-locked. However, for that specific game, there is not much that we can do. Keep in mind that "user can't activate game due to his region" is NOT a generally accepted reason for rerolls. Rerolls in such a case are approved very VERY rarely, under special conditions.

Seeing that only keys don't work, if you make a giveaway of this game, you're still entitled to give the game to the winner.

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That makes sense to me. Thanks Crossbourne!

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