I think he means setting-wise. FO3 is very desolate, with only a few towns struggling to get by, whereas New Vegas takes place around a population hub, with two armies scattered across the area setting up camps and running raids. Story-wise, New Vegas is much darker, since every side has it's dirty secrets and bad apples, whereas in FO3 the Brotherhood are the totally righteous merry band of Good Guys.
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Indeed. In Fallout 3 you barely find people but in New Vegas you can find people sooner or later.
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Fallout 3 has a better story line
Fallout New Vegas has better game mechanics.
Each can be modded to your liking. I enjoy both and would rate them equally enjoyable, just enjoyable in different ways. New Vegas has a better companion system. The questlines are easier to follow but You do have to make "life changing" choices where in Fallout 3 there were only a few choices that really mattered.
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loads of patches since then. Anything that isn't fixed has a mod that fixes it as well although I'm almost done with the game and dlc, no bugs yet.
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I recently found a fix for the FO3 regular crashing.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1328904
"Find Fallout.ini file in My Documents\My Games\Fallout3
Find the line:
bUseThreadedAI=0
change it to:
bUseThreadedAI=1
Add another line after it and insert:
iNumHWThreads=2
This will limit the game to 2 cores and prevent the engine bug from causing the game to freeze.
*If the game still crashes write this iNumHWThreads=1"
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The one thing that really bugged me in NV is the selection of music.
In FO3 every channel had its own (broad) selection of music, most of them are entertaining, plus there's radio shows like that of Herbert 'daring' Dashwood to keep you entertained.
In NV, there are only so many songs on the radio (feels like 5, and all of them suck) and every radio channel uses this pool of songs, and almost no radio shows or other forms of entertainment . If I hear Johnny Guitar one more time I will murder a president.
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I MUCH prefer New Vegas. But I've only played the PS3 version of each without DLC. Just got both with DLC tonight in the QuakeCon Pack. But, anyways. I found New Vegas to have a much better story. In Fallout 3, you're a man who was born and raised in a vault and forced to go out into the barren, mutant-infested wastes to find your father. Your only real battle experience is shooting rad roaches with a BB Gun, you never had you fend for yourself or scavenge for food. Those who lived in the wastes were forced to learn to scavenge and to defend themselves, yet you somehow have the combat abilities of a one man army.
In New Vegas, you're a courier who drew the short straw with the assignment you chose and are quickly betrayed, and nearly killed. You miraculously survive and set out to find and punish those who tried to kill you. Sounds like a simple revenge story, but it goes so much deeper. You have many more moral choices in NV than in FO3, and they have a bigger impact. In FO3, you really just choose how to get to the end - The endings are all nearly the same. In New Vegas, you choose your own path - You choose what tribes survive and which become extinct, you choose who rules over New Vegas, you choose to have allies or to become an evil tyrant.
New Vegas also has many gameplay and design advantages: New Vegas has a better karma/reputation system, a better companion system, a better difficulty system (addition of Hardcore), more weapons, no "This road is blocked off, backtrack and find a subway tunnel to go through just to get to the next block" segments, more ammo choices, more groups in the wastes and they all have dark back stories to discover. It is just a superior game in every way.
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And yet, looting containers which belong to evil mass murderers - who are also already DEAD - still gives you a karma loss.
Killing them is honorable and appreciated, but TAKING THEIR STUFF is a crime!
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Stealing is WRONG! D: You can kill my dog and rape my girlfriend, but leave my worthless junk alone!
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I played both and all of the DLCs (I just started Old World Blues recently) and really enjoyed both of them. I can't really say if there is one I prefer over the other. Sure there are a few mechanical differences as people have already pointed out, same with the depth of the storyline/decisioning/influence but they don't make one game better then the other imo. I would recommend playing both of them, starting with FO3 + dlcs before moving to NV + dlcs, just in case someone would be afraid in making a step back in mechanics of the game itself.
What a really enjoyed about both parts, was the modding part. I'm no modder myself but a user of those by heart. Even if it took hours over hours to set up the game the way I would like it, I have never regret one minute of the time that I invested. There are really beautiful mods out there for both games and the community is big and activ. My source of mods have been http://www.newvegasnexus.com/ and http://www.fallout3nexus.com/.
To make long things short: I believe both games are worth every single cent, there is no better or worse part =)
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Out of Fallout 3 and New Vegas, I've enjoyed playing Fallout 3 more.
I am a casual gamer and liked the more easy going storyline of fo3 but new vegas has more people and feels less desolate.
My only critism about nv is that once you're finished that's it where as fo3 a dlc extended it so you could continue.
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actually there's a mod that lets you play after the final mission find it at the fallout new vegas nexus. Fallout 3 was the same till it was patched.
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A holywar is here!!! Well, New Vegas is better than F3. But F1 and F2 can beat the shit outta New Vegas.
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Especially with the mod that removed the green tint from everything.
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but its supposed to be a polluted, irradiated wasteland; why not just let it look like it's supposed to look?
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Radioactive pollution do not look like some green goo, contrary to the popular belief based on TNMT cartoons.
So, the wasteland are supposed to look just like DC looks now, but destroyed. Not covered in green dust. Just look at the Chernobyl area - it may be irradiated, but it looks much cleaner and unpolluted than any industrial center.
Anyway, the bombs fell two centuries ago. Any dust they may had thrown in the air will lay down a long-long time ago. So the air will be even cleaner than now, as there are no heavy industry or millions of cars to pollute it.
The planet is fine, the people are fucked.
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F3 was FAR easier than F:NV. By a long shot. And that's not even counting the ability to play it in extreme/hardcore/whatever mode where ammo has a friggin weight, and you can die of thirst & hunger. I'd say Fallout 3 was just awesome, while Fallout New Vegas was awesome plus 1. Only +1, however, due to the ridiculous amount of bugs. Seriously, it could be called Fallout: Bugs and Errors! and it'd make perfect sense.
Still, it's a great game in the series, and the storyline, quests, and dialogue do it's predecessors proud. I am able to enjoy it despite the bugs. The DLC content is better than the DLC for F3, by a long shot. Hell, Old World Blues alone felt like an entirely different game. My favorite by far.
With all that being said, though...if I were to recommend either game to someone new to the series, I'd definitely advise them to start off with Fallout 3.
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I don't really remember how long it took me for FO3 but I guess it was 70+ hours or so. I'm on 118+ with FO:NV and still playing in my first created game + dlcs. But I have to say that I'm one of those players that search every little corner, cave, outpost, box, truck, tunnel, turn over every rock, etc. and plays every single quest/mission there is. Sometimes I even just roam around without a clear goal of destination. I always find new stuff to discover. There is almost no corner left that I haven't been to, in the Wastlands of D.C. or the Mohave of New Vegas.
I guess it really depends on how you play the game =)
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I'm around 100 hours in. Just started Old World Blues, after having completed the previous two DLCs. I was around 75 hours in when I finished the main storyline of NV, and started Dead Money. I still have lots of undiscovered locations in the Mohave though, and haven't tried allying with Caesar yet.
I don't remember how long FO3 took me, as I lost my saves (damn GFWL).
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Which do you think is better and why?
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