I received a gift link for HB WB from a friend 2 days ago, reclaimed it to my HB account, showed under my other purchases. Today I open my HB account wanting to redeem the games, bundle is not there anymore. Tried the gift link, says bad key, used the Resend button, sends me an e-mail with all my older purchases, this one not included (probably cause it was gifted ofc).. Sent an e-mail to HB support they said it could take 1 week to respond. Anyone had this happened to them before? A bundle to disappear from their account, could be a bug for just a period of time or something? The guy doesn't have it in his library..

EDIT: For the initial exchange I gave the guy 3,3$ worth of cards, he was fine with it because he said he bought it early when it was under 4$. Anyway, I talked it out with him, he bought me a new one and I redeemed the keys immediately which seem to still be in my Steam account, but the bundle is gone again from my HB account lel. I sent the Fear 2 key and LORT which I had already to another e-mail address of mine, hope they're safe there. http://i42.tinypic.com/16lbwo8.jpg

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Maybe your friend requested a refund?

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My best guess is this too. If it was really a friend and not a trader.

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Does it matter that much? He's a "contact" of the same nationality as me, we trusted each other games before..

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Why and how would he be able to do that if it's a gift link? If HB allows that, there's something very wrong..

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I think it is not related to HB only. You cannot withdraw your money from HB. This is only possible by bank, or card provider. But the most likely cause is using a stolen credit card.

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You can get back money in Paypal.
Thats why HB is using links, not keys.

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They can't not allow refunds, regardless if it's gift or regular purchase. It's not necessarily what happened here though, his payment might have been canceled due to other circumstances as well.

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Yes I agree with you, HB allows refunds for anything but bitcoin.

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Actually, I got a full refund from HB after accidentally buying a bundle for the default price of $25 or something instead of using the $1 option by sending a support ticket with the purchase id. I'm not sure if I was lucky or if this is common practice, though.
Edit: @schalart WTF? Why is that bullshit?

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bullshit. Paypal protects people from mistakes like this. They have an automated system that checks values of sales when refunding a sale.

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WTF? How is what happened bullshit?

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Read what wrote. Paypal protects users from giving too-much money for a refund. If you are Saying a Credit-card even more so. If you did get too-much money and the Paypal anti-fraud system didn't click in they will correct their mistake. I know this because Every sale I make with my Paypal I pay Paypal a bit of money for this feature.

read-up

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I chose the $25 amount on the Humble Bundle page. What does Paypal's special services have to do with this? I bought something, wanted a refund, and got it. Perhaps you can read what I wrote instead.

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I read it as you got a refund for $25 instead of a $1 from what you paid.

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Huh...that's strange. Sorry for not being clear on that part.

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NP >< my bad too. But yeah Humble offers refunds. . . If the keys haven't been gifted or redeemed.

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You were perfectly clear from the beginning and I didn't understand what he's arguing about too. Nothing to apologize for, imo. At least not on your end.

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yeah was 100% my bad. I just woke up and was sipping at my coffee. I misread what was said and panicked and checked my Paypal refund history.

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Well, as you're a seller who uses Paypal, I commend you on knowing your services instead of being utterly ignorant of them. Panic at the incident, at least in the way you initially understood it, is understandable since that is a service to protect you, as a seller. If that's a mistake they tend to make, I'd be in a panic, too. When you read it, it seems your mind was more in business/seller mode instead of consumer mode. It's understandable. You just wanted to make sure what you created was completely protected.

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People usually confuse the term "friend" with just "contact".
Another thing of marketing, as all social media and social websites like Facebook, Tuenti, and a big etc usually put the Friends word so easy instead of contacts, which is imo a better and proper word.

I have 117 contacts in my Steam account, from them, only 8 are friends of mine, real friends or people who i usually talk/chat to.

"I have 2000 friends in my Facebook, lololol." (Typical nonsense phrase)

Have a nice day :)

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It is called a friends list and not a contact list :D

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I put contacts in my eyes, I cant put my friends in my eyes unless they're tiny.

I don't have any tiny friends...

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Yes, it's called that way. But still wrongly, that was i meant.

Friendship is something that i value so much. Having good friends is something difficult nowadays.
I dislike when social websites call "friends list" when it should be just "contact list", despite if you have real friends or not.

Have a nice day :)

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I've only got one real Steam friend. All of my other friends are on the consoles. THEY'LL KNOW THE GLORY OF GABEN ONE OF THESE DAYS!

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I have no Facebook. I do not like social networks.
In Steam I'm always "Offline".

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Be honest if thid was a true friend, or if it were a trader. If it were a friend, then go talk to thwm. If it's a trader? Stolen credit cards

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I had the same problem with new humble weekly, a trader gave me the gift link, i activate the games that i need, and today when i looked in may hib library the gift link wosen't there anymore. But the games are still in my steam library. Should i be worried that they will be withdrawn from my steam library?

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you did BTA or non-BTA? And how much did you payed?

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i made a trade with him, i gave him a game and he gave me the BTA gift link

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it depends on the value of your game. But probably he scammed you. Report him to steam and steam rep to make him marked

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Are you sure you claimed gift page? Because it may not show to you because you didn't claim it for your account.

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I did.

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Pro tip: If a "friend" is "giving" you the bundle for less than it costs (say, you "gifted" him 2 TF keys) then your "friend" has probably bought it using a dodgy credit card.

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I gave him cards worth around 4$ and he said he bought it early when it was under 3,8 or something..

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Also, don't call him friend if he isn't one.

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Talk to your "friend" about making it right. Then if he says no, leave your "friend" bad rep on steamtrades.

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Well next time try to activate the keys. Also snapshot every trade offer (completed or not just for when you need it). And if you have this trade offer with chat between you two send to HiB support (i don't know if they will give you back the gift url but at least you can try) and steam rep. Bad luck mate :/

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Let me guess. He is from Turkey.

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Why do you mention Turkey? I traded with a guy from Turkey that everyone is now calling scammer but I don't have any problems with stuff he gave to me.

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I don't know why they specifically mention Turkey. How long ago did you trade with him? If it was over a month before he started scamming then what you got from him is probably safe. Many scammer trade without scamming at first in order to build a rep, then trade en mass and cancle all the previious trades, at least as far back as they can.

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I traded with him after some people called him scammer. But, as I said, didn't have any problems. Of course, since his rep was worse than mine he had to go first. And I have Steam chat copied too but it's been 4 days since we traded and I don't have any problems with my HB and games from it.

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He's the same nationality as I am, not turk anyway.. I don't know him for a long time, but we trusted games to each other so far, he gave me portal 2 when I needed and repaid him after some time with a game he wanted..

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Are you sure he wasn't hacked?

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May I know what's up with people from turkey selling/trading humble bundles? I noticed quite a few turks were trading them real cheap..

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It's probably currency. It might be cheaper for them to buy bundle than it is for lots of other countries. For example, is non-BTA is 1$ I pay 1$ but it's 0,5Ls for me. So it's theoretically cheaper. Don't see anything wrong with it.

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I thought humble only accepts USD. You still pay the exact amount after conversion.

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It accepts only USD but when you look at it it's still cheaper. In USA 1$=1$ but here 1$=0,5Ls. It's hard to understand at first but when you think about it you get it.

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I'm sorry, but I think, you don't get it.

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He doesn't get it lel

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I don't quite understand. You pay the equivalent of $1 USD. Paypal charges this equivalent plus maybe a conversion fee, so you will likely be paying more than $1 USD rather than less.

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I once asked a turkish trader, and he told me after conversions its roughly the same pricing (perhaps he lied?) Anyway, did you mean that the pricing in USD and liras are the same, but liras are worth less? Or were you trying to say something else?

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IF you'd pay in pounds/liras 0,5 you'd still pay the same ammount because of the international conversion rate.. even if 0,5 is smaller < than 1, it's the value of the currency that matters.

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What I mean is - when I pay 1$ in my currency (LVL which stands for latvian lats) I actually pay less because LVL has better value as a currency. But if you're not studying economics you won't understand.

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Well, that difference in negligible if we're talking about mere humble bundles here :o

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No, you pay $1 USD equivalent in LVL at the time of sale and this has nothing to do with economics...
Paypal should the most updated conversion rates, so you are paying whatever amount in Lats that equals $1 USD at the time of sale, plus a small conversion fee. I don't see what's so difficult to understand. All conversion rates are already taken into account. This isn't like some items in the Steam store, where in the US an item is $20, but in the Euro region is 20€.

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There are benefits to using currency with lower value. Think about why China constantly refuses to bring its currency up.

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But conversion fees will be far above whatever benefit you get from using lower valued currencies.

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I'm not too sure if there are any conversion fees, but either way it doesn't really matter since bundles are quite cheap anyway.

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Yeah, he thought he'd sound smart if he brought up "economics" lel

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I actually kind of understand what he means now. The amount you are paying might be the same, the perceived, let's say "worth," of the currency makes it a better deal to pay with the lesser valued currency.

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i wonder how those PR guys at HB feeling. Somebody using questionable forms of payments and laundering HB bundles to gullible or cheap masses, then HB nullify the gift links acquired by the "sellers". Then they still have to do with complaint emails asking "what is this all about?" Resources wasted. It reminded me of a story where a game developer said they spent far too many resources on pirates asking for technical supports than on their actual game development.

my suggestion is ask your 'friend' is he got any email from HB, since he should be the legal purchaser, got the receipt email or so.

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I also received a gift which i claimed but it NEVER appeared in among my purchases. I still have access to it but only via the unique url. I contacted HB - still waiting for respond.

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If you can access the keys why not claim it and then let it go

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Because of reasons

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It's really sad how some guys are selling BTA bundles for 1 key and no one in charge seems to care. It's so obvious that they are laundering money and yet they can just continue to scam and cheat

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These are video games you're talking about. Remember that next time you use the term money laundering.

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video games are a billion dollar industry i can think of no better place to launder money

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"Money laundering is the process of changing large amounts of money that have been gained through illegitimate means".

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yep, the theory is that they have "dirty money" -be stolen CC or other stuff- so they sale cheap in order to get "clean" money

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Oh come on you guys are ridiculous if you're comparing this to actual money laundering. You must not have anything better to do with your time then to make silly arguments and fallacies.

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first i dont say that i believe it i just say that its the theory that 1 guy can move a couple of hundred dollars with this in 1 day or less

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please notice that im just keeping this argument for fun

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don't forget the Russian mob did this with Steam keys. . . supposedly.

EDit Not Keys Earbuds

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ahahaah You are so funny and wise. not

Just because it involves, let's say 100-1000$ and not 1 million to 100 million$ it's not good enough "actual money laundering" for you? Oh well ...
Thanks to the internet, money laundering via digital goods is dreadfully easy. And it's a legit problem.
If there is a website/forum providing space for traders to trade, there are gonna be scammers there. More and more.

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LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY 100-1000 is not a lot of money. That's the whole point. The silk road fiasco. That's money laundering.

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Ma'm, I completely understand your points, that what these "kids" are doing are not "perfect laundering" and not one of those huge scams you are seeing on the tv and reading on the paper, but in the end, you have to name this phenomenon somehow too.
And the most accurate, closest term would be the money laundering.

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you two should read this Different tune same notion. . .

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Yeah, kinda like this. But on steamtrades the HB is the trend; it seems.

If you are seeing someone selling a 6$ fixed price bundle for 1-2 keys, I suggest not to buy it. :D

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So insulting the previous poster and not bringing up any valid point whatsoever is not a fallacy? I wasn't aware that ad hominem attacks were not fallacies. I guess I learn something new every day.

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selling HIBs for keys doesn't make your money any more cleaner... this type of commerce is already quite shady...

to actually launder money in huge amounts you need a legitimate business...

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But if you sell the keys, let's say via paypal, your money is clear.

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Not really. It's not legitimate business, so selling TF2 keys is not really something you declare to tax authorities.

Those milions of $ you suddenly get on your paypal and transfer on your bank account are definitely not "clear".

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I doubt we are talking about millions of $ here, but whatevs. :)

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Yeah, laundering money actually means transforming your profits from shady sources into taxable income, so you invest in a massage parlor or a car wash. You only need to watch 1 episode of Breaking Bad to understand that lel

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Oh. I thought Humble Bundle ended the WB Bundle early because of the thread title. :/

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You are not the only one... Please OP, just add "My Humble..." on your title.

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Same... About to say, glad I got mine in already!

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I thought the same too... (:P)

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I gifted a copy of the bundle (not BTA) to a buddy and he couldn't get his games. They kept sending him e-mails saying he had no games to receive. He e-mailed support late at night, he had his games mid day the next day. it probably has something to do with their new system for getting and gifting games and the fact that that bundle has been selling really well.

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i think you should change the title as its kinda misleading

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MY HUMBLE BUNDLE MY, MY MY!!!!!

thanks

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hahahahah
Oh you...

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Yesterday a friend of mine offered me an HWBB BTA for less than its value, instantdeleted him from friends.

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Well, some got it for 3,something $s BTA in the early stage..

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I've got it for %3.4. I could get it for $3.3, but wasn't sure if it would go up or down (as it already went down from $25 in just a minute), so I pressed f5 again, and since price started to rise I bought it right away.

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I will echo the same thing from other posters.

My Humble WB Bundle

The current thread title is misleading.

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see WB games in your account. . . But Humble will deal with it if there is an issue like this.

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That's because he bought me a new one, updated the main thread..

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batman used his super duper hackin' skills to claim it for Max

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MINE IS GONE TOO !! :(

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lel sad

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Somehow I'm not surprised...

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wtf, stop making jokes here. you are one of the idiots who sell the cheap bundles...

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How many "rich uncles" did your "friend" have? You should ask him/her!

BTW, just go to steamrep and search for Humble. There are plenty of people who have gotten scammed just like you. And plenty more that never reported - most people don't bother checking the gift link anymore after redeeming the Steam keys.

Edit: in addition, Steamrep doesnt care about this type of scam apparently, because they've closed most of the threads due to this announcement

Wow. Steamrep is a joke now. So they don't investigate key scams, the most common type of scam, now?

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Right. :/

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wow wtf

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Steamrep has been a joke since Yatterman was flagged as a scammer. . .

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What the heck? Is that an April Fool's joke or something?

Keys are the whole reason we need reputation. Other scams are much harder to pull off and can be investigated and reversed by Steam itself.

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I think that's the point. The SR mods only want to spend time investigating cases that are easy to resolve due to laziness.

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+

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Wow. I understood their old policy on keys requiring really solid proof, because it really can be difficult to determine what happened if, for example, someone claims the key they were given was already used (while also possibly handing it to a friend's account to activate immediately). But just flat-out ignoring even the most cut and dried cases? I understand if they're overwhelmed, but the solution to that is to promote more staff, not to just ignore a large portion of the scammer population.

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Well some guy from this thread added me and asked if the "friend" was a guy named Reptile which it wasn't, but I told him who, he checked the guy's friendslist and saw Reptile in it. Also my guy didn't buy the bundle himself and doesn't wanna tell me the source so who knows maybe it's the same turk Reptile scammer or whatever these guys say he is..

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Yep, I reported a phisher 2 weeks ago with proof and they rejected it because of their new policy. What a joke.... And the thing about CD keys is even more ridiculous.

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indeed! whats that sites purpose now??

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I already activated all my games, but I just checked and I have the same error, this is ridiculous. The whole new key redemption system is also a big joke. There never were any problems with individual keys or keys for the entire bundle.

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So I'm not the only one

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the new system is not the reason for the disappearing bundles. they disappeared before the new system. it's some kind of payment fraud. the new system may even be a way for them to remove the games later from your account, if payment was canceled/not finished.

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I worked it out. Since I traded for mine, the dude that gave me the gift URL later that day refunded the actual purchase of the bundle. So you are indeed right, it is not HB's fault.I merely assumed that it was HB's fault before I conducted any research.

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you should -rep this guy, if you haven't already.

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I have and many people he scammed have also.

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mine is gone too...

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Just checked mine and it's still in my account. I did redeem all the games right after it was gifted to me, idk if that's why.

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Mines still there, but I bought directly, not through 3rd party for less than cost. Don't risk it biscuit. Deal only with people you have had business with in past. Really not surprised by this, writing was on the wall.

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I did have business with him before, when I needed a certain game from his inventory he gave it to me asking nothing in return and I'd give it back a few days later or repay him with another game, so what's your point on this now?

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How do you give games back? :|

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Sounds like he bought him a different game in return for the initial game that was gifted by his "contact".

I gotta admit, the phrasing in this thread sounds like a shady drug deal.

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I got him the same game I barrowed from another trader or source or replaced it with another title ;/ hard to get?

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It's the "gave it to me asking nothing in return and I'd give it back a few days later" that makes it seem odd. This makes it seem like you just held on to the game and then handed it back.

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Well i was looking for a guy that wanted to buy some game gifts i had trading for keys. Found a guy he offered me the daedalic bta for the game. We traded, i claimed the page. FIRST THINGS HE SAYS IS please check your url and if the games are there cause i dont know if it works. I had already claimed 2 games, i found it suspicious. So i told him its fine for now but ill let u know in a couple of hours if it dissapears. immediately he tells me like 7 bundles have dissapeared on him. So i told him most likely you or wherever your getting this is buying the bundles with stolen credit cards. He gives me my gifts back and tells me just in case the bundle dissapears and deletes me. i add him again and ask him who sold him the bundles (just in case it wasnt him and he was being scammed 2) he says what is it to you? I gave you your games back and u have the bundle. I said i wanted to avoid scammers or whoever is doing those things just in case. HE answers your not the first and wont be the last. Deletes me. 5 hours later bundle dissapears from my humble library even though claimed. Be careful and aware who you trade with i was lucky to get my games back. But many friends of mine havent been so lucky. And some have even gotten their games removed from their library. This is why humble bundle changed their system. So noone can give out duplicate keys and be scammed and to link the bundle to the account so they know where everything is going. Be careful. And by the way his thread doesnt say he is selling bundles.

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You'd better buy this by yourself because the gift which you received may be paid by a stolen credit card even if you give your "friend" $100.

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My Call of Duty Ghosts is GONE!

So stop making such a big deal over something so small.

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LOL

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you guys should stop buying these ultra-cheap bundles. it has to be some illegal action, if someone offeres you a new 5-6$ bundle for half price. you are not the only one, many others have this problem. example:

http://forums.steamrep.com/threads/76561198103418957-jacqu%C3%A9s.46940/

i hate what is currently going on so much. these guys obviously steal those bundles. and they get lots of rep on steamtrades. some have like +150/0 (all gotten within 1 month) and look like honest traders. but in reality, they don't get their bundles legally. and most people don't even notice, because they activate their steam keys and never open the url again.

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so at least considering what you're saying we can stay safe that games activated will not be removed from our steam library?

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no you can not be safe! they were aquired by committing a crime (credit-card fraud). Maybe humble wasnt able to revoke them keys until now, but I really hope that they will be able to do so. Sad for the buyers losing their stuff, but this has to stop!

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+1

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Closed 11 years ago by cRookie.