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$20 unless its released in a bundle.

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Crazy Machines is the same way. $1 will get you two $10 games.

They were never marked as a bundle the last time, so I doubt it.

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Wow, what the fuck. I just checked the bundles list (http://www.steamgifts.com/bundles/list) and they're not there. Why weren't they added???

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Why would they? They're not like the average indie bundles. It's like what you did with the Amazon bundle. You gave away Hitman and Quantum Conundrum. Should they be decreased as well? Also refer to Rysix's post.

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That Square Enix PACK not BUNDLE, also it wasn't for $1, was for $10

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You can substitute the word pack for bundle. It's the same thing.

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Same thing.

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Bundle always used with indie games and THShit at that time. Pack = AAA games. Bundle = $1-$5, pack $5+

If those games don't get bundled, games from IG, Groupees and HiB shouldn't.
At least Crazy Machines that was in a bundle, not the official but still a bundle.

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Amazon had a $110 value for $5 (with coupon). That's about as large a discount.

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AAA games people want vs. 43 metacritic score indie game.

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not everybody had that coupon

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no, the gala store bundles won't have "bundle" status

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but its a part from The Helldorado Bundle?

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all the bundles in the gala store won't be put on the bundle list

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Which is strange, because they're called 'bundles' and often 95% discounted, which is equal or better than many other indie bundles.

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Amazon bundles are bundles too, an up to 98% discounted, which is equal or better than many other indie bundles.

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Its not an actual bundle that you will see on Humble Bundle or Indie Royale. It's just a big discount price for a couple of games. Most bundles that are marked for bundle status are pay what you want.

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Still, I don't see a difference from Indie Royale, or any high price bundle. It's possible to argue that paying $1 for $50 worth of games is too much of a discount, but if a $110 bundle costing $5 on Amazon or a $20 Gala Store bundle costing $1 are okay, a $55 Indie Royale bundle which costs $4-6 minimum shouldn't get treated differently. Same for games in over the average parts of bundles.

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Bundle list is there also to partially discourage those giveaways. Especially for Royale and Humble, because the ToS says you arent allowed to give away the individual games.

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True, but I think it would encourage giving the complete bundle more if it had a higher value. Valuing the bundle at its price doesn't make sense.

Also at least OTA Groupees should not be marked as bundle.

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IndieGala Store Bundles are (at least partially) pay what you want as well, e.g. The Helldorado Bundle.

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The problem is the price of this garbage at Steam store.

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Gala store bundle isn't bundle for now, so $1=$20

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oh, guess this explains all the giveaways for it

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The disparity between how bundle games and deeply discounted games are treated is troubling. Not necessarily confusing, as it's easier to track what games have been in bundles than it is to keep track of every game that's ever been 75%+ off.

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You can just assume a game has been 75% off, if not more.

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One problem is that the bundles themselves aren't equal.

Different amounts of games, different minimum prices, and even different ways to exploit them. $1 can get you 5 to 10 games at Humble Bundle, but won't get you anything at IndieRoyale (where the minimum is likely to be around $5).

Even the games inside a single bundle aren't equal. Games you get for a $1 purchase aren't really equal with games that require a BTA or other premium purchase. For example, with the current Groupees deal I could get five copies of Party of Sin for the same price as one copy of Two Worlds II + one copy of Party of Sin. Same goes for something like Darwinia versus Demigod at IndieGala.

The other issue is that if you count Amazon sales, Amazon coupons combined with sales, Steam sales, GamersGate pricing mistakes and the like, you'd end up with a sizable portion of the Steam catalog flagged as "reduced value" titles.

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So the only reason people are giving away 4.. 8 or more copy of that shitty game is to trick the contributor value. The way bundle items don't apply to Gala Store bundles makes the whole system broken. It's just saying 'go ahead, exploit all you want since we don't care about those.'

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But the GalaStorete isn't purely a bundle site.
It's just like Steam, Amazon and Gamersgate now.

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that's the lowest metascore i've ever seen on a steam game

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<_>

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8

Do I win?

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I thought that game deserved a negative score :X

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Wow.

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Well yea, Big Rigs in infamous, but I thought mastaninjax was talking about Steam games. Fortunately, I don't think that game ever appeared on the Steam store.

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Same creator who made warZ.

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i guess its time to set my contrib values even higher

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Isn't that just encouraging people to do this more?

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Meh, this is annoying. It is obvious, that most giveaways are made from games on sale (honor to the guys, who actually make giveaways for non-sale games), but it still is a little annoying and disturbing, that these guys get 200bucks worth of cv for 10 bucks. >.<

Am fighting with myself right now if I should "exploit" it as well, or just leave it be and keep my dignity.

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I haven't been doing this but I might spam this kinds of giveaway soon. My Two worlds 2 was bundled 3 days before the bundle started (I twas a fukeen tradeable too) but it is still counted as a bundled game. If that's how this site wants to play with the contrib value, then I guess I might play this kind of game in the future even though I'm against this viewpoint.

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I'm in the same boat as you -- I have a bunch of games in my inventory that were purchased through Steam who had their values nerfed as bundle games. Even the Introversion Complete Pack (a bunch of games with soundtracks) I have counts as a bundle game because its contents were in the most recent Indie Gala, that's pretty ridiculous.

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That doesn't seem fair since the (Steam versions of) the soundtracks haven't been in bundles.

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I'll probably buy a couple to give away too. I'm especially annoyed because I reached the $2000 contributor milestone twice in the past two weeks, only to have some games drop in steam store price and have me go under again.

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I guess I'll buy a few and just feel guilty about it later.

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Why feel guilty? You're not cheating anything. Mods can make it a bundle game but don't want to. You're not taking advantage of anything.

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'You're not taking advantage of anything'

Sure then tell me one reason why people are giving so much copies of this crappy game (that none of 'em will actually add to their own collection) if not to take advantage of the 1$ = 20$ value..

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It's not. If so then every game given away which wasn't bought at full price is "taking advantage". It's all or nothing. You can't say that buying a game 90% off is taking advantage but buying a game 20% off isn't taking advantage of the system. Both are. And no one has a problem with it because the system is flawed and everyone knows that.

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Here we go again.

Cryyy me a river.

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Why all the people look only for contributor value, can't you simply do giveaways for games that you think are nice or that you think other people will appreciate? I myself haven't given so much but when I do this i try to give games I've played or that I would play not only games that will raise my contributor value...

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Because a lot of people don't want to give to people who don't give back. It's just the way things are. I give to give, BUT that doesn't mean I want something i've paid for won by someone with 33 wins and no contributions.

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This is ok but I was reffering to the fact that some people gives only to receive contribution value not to give something that would make happy someone.

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Yeah but surely a game is still a game. Whether it's bad or not, someone in this world will want it and chances are, they will enjoy it a hell of a lot.

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If someone is entering a giveaway, it's supposed to imply that they would be happy to win the game.

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Time to make some group giveaways, why don't you.

Contributor score don't mean a thing anyway. Let's abuse it.

Cause, truth to be told, back in the days when I bought BL2 for 40-50€, it got me 60 contributor score ($60), while right now 50€ would give me ~1300$ contributor score. Yeah, totally worth considering. And I honestly disagree with some winners of my giveaway for a variety of reason, not to say they came nowhere close to paying even a quarter of the cash required to enter the giveaway.

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It's not abuse if mods know about it and do nothing. Abuse would be cheating. It's not cheating to make a 20 giveaways of an X game. Doesn't matter where you bought it.

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or mods do nothing to promote gala store. Easy :D

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Mabako~

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Leires~

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yourebadandshouldfeelbad

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I don't feel bad cause I'm awesome.

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I don't really understand why everyone is so concerned, if you want to contribute and risk losing it, then go for it, otherwise be thankful that you're being bombarded with points to use for giveaways!

There have been other occasions where people have bought games and received 20x their payment in contribution from the Amazon bundles. If I remember correctly, after the $5 off coupon, you could get over $100 for $5 which is the same as $20 for $1 yet no one created a fuss then because it wasn't as obvious.

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For the THQ Bundle for like 20$ you could get 400$ worth contributor points if I remember correctly. Or even more. Nobody complained then.

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Those were actually AAA quality games that people actually wanted. And aren't most of those games on the bundle list already anyways from the THQ humble bundle. People weren't making 20x contribution value from the majority of that pack.

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They were. Only SR 3 was on the bundle list. Even Darksiders and RF: Armageddon are not because they were separate keys and in budle was only one key for a few games. So yeah, they were getting x20 contributor value. I know because I counted.

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The fact still remains that you had to spend 20$ on such a bundle and that the games were actually interesting and people wanted them. Find me someone with 'Shadow Harvest : Phantom Ops' on their Wishlist..

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What is your point anyway? If someone entered then they wanted them. Maybe it's not the most wished game in the world but if I didn't have it I'd enter giveaways for it. I like to play crap games from time to time. Besides, SH is crap but Crazy Machines is definitely not.

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A game is a game, though.
If people don't want Shadow Harvest why do they enter giveaways for it?

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Me xD

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That's the point I was trying to make, not to mention your example falls under my statement of There have been other occasions where people have bought games and received 20x their payment in contribution from the Amazon bundles.

400/20 = 20

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It's from a freaking bundle on the Indie Gala store. 95% discounted. I don't see why it isn't put on the 'bundle games' list.

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I actually asked support about it. Still waiting for an answer.

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Obviously my opinion is a bit biased, but I don't think they should retroactively put this on the bundle list. I think the most fair thing to do at this point is for them to start monitoring future Gala Store "bundles", and announce somewhere that they will be doing so. Although it seems they don't keep a huge supply of keys in stock anyway so these are turning out to be more like flash sales than anything else.

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You're saying that now cause you gained a lot of contribute value from those games :D

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Partially yes, but I don't feel guilty about it at all.. most of the people I sent Crazy Machines to seemed very happy and grateful for the gift. I understand this was a very deep discount, but it wasn't a true PWYW bundle either. If support does decide to retro this I'd find a halfway solution (~50% contribution value for Galastore bundles only) an acceptable solution.

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They can give me 0$ for all those games for all I care.

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Like we've argued before, if you put this on the list, you have to put the Amazon, gamersgate, etc bundles on the list too. The Indie Gala store is a digital distribution store just like Amazon.

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That is wrong. Indie Gala Store bundles are Pay-What-You-Want bundles (see for example this one).

The one difference is in the marketing.

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Oops, I thought I edited my post already to reflect that. Looks like I forgot this one.

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I think they have more rights to be included in the bundle list than normal ones, as they seem second-class bundles. I also created a support ticket which was answered and passed to CG about 1 month ago, no idea whether he processed the ticket or not though.

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What about that 0.000000000000000001% that wants it just to see how horrible it is there are people including me that are in the small precentage.

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Well I gave away 2000$ in 2 months I did gave away discounted games, but also games I tough were good games, for me is not about contribution value, but the contribution seem also like some reward.

One thing is to give discounted games, like darksiders II or borderlands 2, even mark of the ninja that was discounted a lot, but in this particular cases I see them more like exploits.

Let's be honest Darksiders is having lees contribution value than Shadow Harvest I find it a little bit discouraging (talking about contribution value) to give games like Borderlands 2 that cost like 30$ give you 60$ contributor than spending 30$ on 1$ game and receiving 600$ contributor value.

I give games for the sake of it, with what I spend giving away I can buy the games I want, so is not to enter more exclusive giveaways, since that won even assure me winning just giving me more chances, and I will continue giving away games just today I bought Torchlight II to give it away.

But I don't know the contribution value is like some kind of placebo and seeing lost his meaning makes the value pointless.

Plus with all due respect those people giving away 10 shadow harvest or 10 crazy machines are not doing it because are trying to share, THEY are NOT doing because they are GOOD and trying to share I AM 100% sure of that, because why not buy a 10$ game (a much better game) instead of 10 1$ shitty game? the trending is clear, just for the contribution value.

Something should be done and the idea behind contribution should change.

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Crazy Machines is not a bad game! 10x Crazy Machines >>> 1x other $10 game. Can't say too much about Shadow Harvest though :P.

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Sorry, crazy machines x 10 can't beat my audiosurf

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Crazy Machines x10 has 10x the strength and agility. Audiosurf may have more vitality, but it will never win!

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Crazy machines has agility? You must be kidding me. I don't know the max speed of audiosurf but I have already experience 2800mph on it

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i wonder why there are no more copys given away, did the value change after all?

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No, the sale ended.

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no it started again about 2 days ago helldorado bundle...i think they changed the bundle in between but changed it back

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Ha, when I last checked I'm pretty sure Shadow Harvest wasn't in. Maybe people didn't notice it was back on sale? The value seems to be still the same.

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yes i think they replaced it with another drm-free game, but this changed again 1 or 2 days ago

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You're right. I bought it February 20th and these were the contents:
1 x The Rockin' Dead
1 x Airline Tycoon Deluxe
1 x Grand Ages: Rome - Gold Edition
1 x Cargo! The Quest for Gravity
1 x Helldorado

There will be flood. :)

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They brought back the cheap Shadow Harvest two days ago, I already gave away another 5, just seems people didn't notice or lost interest.

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Who cares? The contributor points are broken anyway and should be removed IMO.

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So that's why I see crazy machines and shadow harvest flood...

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Now the best way to get contributor value is happening with Men of War Assault Squad DLC Pack from Groupees BMA bundle. For $1 you get $20 contributor value lol. I thought these games were to be added on the bundle list at SG. Anyway I spent around 250P earlier on giveaways. Now I'm back to 300P in just a few hours, thanks to the flood of MoW AS DLC Pack giveaways :D

I just found out I have MoW AS DLC unlocked in my buy at Groupees, might give it away as well...

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The Helldorado Bundle is back up for another 5 hours. Go get your cheap Shadow Harvest: Phantom Ops keys @ Indiegala 0.99$
http://store.indiegala.com/index.php/bundles/the-rockin-bundle.html

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