Summary

Apply to group here.

Group has two positions: cherries and poppers. Cherries are the target of giveaways, poppers are the ones who create them. Cherries are picked on certain criteria.

Please comment and criticize this idea. Does it have serious flaws, would you change something and is there any need for this at all?

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My previous experiences in trying to gift certain group of people had some troubles. Mainly it was people who entered even if they did not meet the requirements. I thought for a while different approaches how to solve this. I personally do not really like the group option, but it seems to be the best one that is available.

Group would have two positions. Cherries are the people I would aim to give gifts by creating giveaways. Poppers are people who would create these giveaways. Idea is to gather people who would be deemed unlucky or nice people deserving chance of winning. Cherries are selected by meeting certain criteria that are given below. One can apply multiple times.

Cherries' main purpose in group is to achieve Golden Kick of Luck which is gained by winning. Winner will then be kicked from the group to open position for the next one. I'm still uncertain would it be better to only count wins inside group or any win in the site.

Poppers are people who would like to gift people having some of the qualities met in cherries. I would place no limit to their numbers. One could use this group as temporary filter (join for a giveaway and then leave) or hang in back and gift when you feel like it. Before a wall of leecher accusations appear, I notify that I would be placing myself as popper.

Idea is to have quite loose structure with very little forced activity to prevent needless re-rolling in every giveaway themed for these people.

Cherries

  • Limited number of positions in group, likely somewhere between 20-30. Enough to have wide variety of tastes but small enough to keep chances in giveaways relatively high.
  • Will be kicked out once have won. Can re-apply back to group.

Higher chance of entry by meeting mixture of following:

  • Capable of reading a text (and understanding it) that is longer than five characters.
  • Low number or no wins at all.
  • High number of giveaway entries since last win.
  • Being long time member so people that do not enter every giveaway they see have chance too.
  • Being an asset to the community (forums/chat) so new people have chance too.
  • Having contributed.

Lower chance of entry by meeting mixture of following:

  • Breaking rules.
  • Inappropriate behavior.
  • Lots of wins.

Poppers

  • No limit to numbers.
  • No mandatory giveaways. You gift (within SG's rules) what you want, when it suits you.
  • Cannot enter to any of the group giveaways. These people are here to gift, not to win.
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Um... i dont think this is pretty low win entry... 4 wins in 1,485 and 2 moths on the site. I could be a cherry? :3

12 years ago
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Made the first sentence of my message a bit bigger and bolder for easier reading.

12 years ago
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AH, Sorry.

12 years ago
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200 entries since last won , i guess that's not that much ?

12 years ago
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500 entries, no wins, would that qualify? And i like the idea

12 years ago
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This idea is very interesting...

12 years ago
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Thanks for reading, replying and not sending an application. Good to see at least some still read.

12 years ago
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IMO, groups like this simply fracture the community further.

12 years ago
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Do you mean that in sense that more giveaways move behind the curtain (non-public) or that people gather into sub-groups inside SteamGifts?

12 years ago
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Both

12 years ago
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1500 entires, 0 wins - 1 Fearie Solietare gives all ppl/

12 years ago
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Lies! I didn't win.

12 years ago
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Wokay, I defined myself as unlucky, but seeing people with 1500 entries and only one win (I SAW YOUR PROFILE, YOU LIAR§ :p ) made me balance everything.

It's just that I already saw profiles with 200 entries and like 6 wins, so I thought that was normal ^^

12 years ago
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Its realy good idea. A lot of people havent won anything, but they entered in over 200 giveaways, so this group will increase their chances to win some game.

12 years ago
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Think the requirement for cherry should add minimum 1k entries since last win/no wins

or $10 contributed per 100 entries minimum ??

Could you add specifics for date, for instance must be a member for 3 months, contribtued at last $30 or something, 0 wins out of the last 500 if you won before or 300 if you have never won anything, and have at least 0.5 comments per entry

Not interested in joining, but could see many that could

12 years ago
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I did not put in any specific numbers as this post was more about gauging the possible interest and seeing has the idea any solid base. If group would be formed, I would present some numbers.

12 years ago
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I like Cats' ideas. The comment/entry ration would mean I wouldn't be able to join but I don't see any other way to judge how active somebody is in this community.

Would you have any restrictions on the types of contributions made? e.g. somebody who gives away a bunch of leeched keys

12 years ago
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Guidelines from SteamGifts.com apply. This means no beta keys (except whitelisted), guest passes or fake ones.

As the size of the group is small, I think I would personally run a poll for most interesting game (from my inventory) to find out which has most interest and select it for giveaway. I have no problems people sharing e.g. DLC but because of small sampling, it might be possible that no one has the required base game and therefore cannot enter.

12 years ago
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oh

12 years ago
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I have no wins. When I get an extra copy of a game I can put it on a giveaway.

12 years ago
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Sounds good. I would like to be a popper when you get it started :)

12 years ago
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And also there are chances of me being a cherry in a few weeks

12 years ago
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It's a good idea... Maybe i could be a Cherries right now... in the future I'll make giveaways but first i have to trade a lot :P

12 years ago
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Sounds cool...

But can I be THE CHERRY POPPER ?

;)

12 years ago
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Ssh, do not spoil the possible name of the group yet.

12 years ago
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Sounds delish can i have some

Wait what kind of cherries are these??

12 years ago
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The delicious ones.

12 years ago
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yay ill it the cherry with the blood on it =D

12 years ago
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I might be biased as I would definitly try to join once that is possible, but it does sound like a good idea. I would want to give to such a group as well since it is a great cause, although not for a few months since I am currently broke. Was actually planing on giving another game away once i hit 1500 entries and doing it the same way you did with the 1000 no win entries giveaway (although only one game.) A group like this would make things easier.

So yeah, would be awesome if you made that group.

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One of my targets would be to make group well known enough so it would be easier to create such giveaways (from the perspective of both sides). At the moment it is a bit hassle as you need to create thread to inform about its existence, guide people who ask for clarifications and finally face the likely re-roll rumba.

12 years ago
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Yeah, I saw that quite a few people just simply can't read. Although I have to say that there must be a slight delight knowing that the offender must have felt happy to win, only to have the win taken from them. Or maybe I am just a sadist haha.

12 years ago
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Make the group invite only.

12 years ago
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It will be. That is the only way to control the number of cherries.

12 years ago
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May I be one of the Cherries?

12 years ago
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Comment Entry Ratio should be 1:1 of the Cherries.

12 years ago
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This is a bit shady area as some people do not consider thanking in the comments as genuine. I personally prefer to thank everyone whose giveaway I enter but I do not demand it from others (it is not even required in the FAQ). This could be used as one criteria, certainly, but like others, it would not be fixed and absolute.

12 years ago
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It is about people being active in community. Too many people who care about nothing but want free games like sugar in the ass^^

12 years ago
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I understand this and would encourage people to be more active in the community but I would not like to force anyone to do it. The desire to be active should be genuine. Merely spamming to gain higher post count is actually harmful for the community.

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Im going too add onto this..i don't say, thanks, because honestly is the creator of a giveaway going too want too waste a minute of his time too look at all the thanks? Not really, I don't..I look for comments asking about the game, or something with more substance.

12 years ago
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Ill take either role...But, I love unlucky people so this drew my attention.

12 years ago
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I would join but I don't think im unlucky enough 9 wins

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Yes. As there is no particular gain for poppers, other than the joy of giving, I see no point in reducing their numbers. Hence there would be no mandatory requirements: you give what you give when you feel like giving.

That being said, I would hope that at least in the beginning not everyone would rush just to hang as poppers. Just for organization view point because if we suddenly have few hundred poppers (and few dozens cherries), somebody popper might enter a giveaway, win it and we have re-roll fiesta all over again.

12 years ago
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Doesn't sound like the group would be able to last very long...

12 years ago
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Could you specify why this would happen? I could think two possible scenarios:

  • Group runs out of good candidates for cherries so everything dries up. This may not be actually a bad situation, as this group would be formed only to answer certain demand. If there is no demand, it is natural that the group wouldn't be required any more.
  • Group runs out of poppers. This one is a bit more problematic. Still, I would see this group as an extra/bonus chance for cherries, not their main source of gifts as it might be with other private groups. But yes, this is a valid concern.
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first of all: LOL

is a nice idea, it remindsme to SteamLosers group .. is dead now (or closed... or something)
so yes, it was a great idea, and is a great idea now. Go on mate!

12 years ago
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Ideology is similar to it but this one would be a little extended version. Hence the "good people" at the end.

12 years ago
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I want

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12 years ago
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Sounds like an interesting idea for a group.

12 years ago
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Nice idea, I'd enter, but i won world of goo today :P

12 years ago
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id like to enter.

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Closed 12 years ago by tubberware.