I can't find a direct link to the "humble store." Otherwise I see nothing on their site that says you can't do it. So technically from what I see, it's alright. (not that it necessarily makes it ethically alright). I'm pretty sure Loko made some kind of "thank you" post in a Grimrock giveaway where the description stated that it was a steam key and that the giver was using the DRM free game.
E: Ethically I think it's a bit borderline, rather see people support these guys straight up.
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Yay, I will get appropriately excited on the giveaway page then. :-) [switches to another browser tab for a moment, to re-start the video with Grimrock's main theme] But I was rather surprised by someone explicitly stating, as Monukai mentioned, that his giveaway was for a "leftover" key.
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From your description it sounds like you're talking about buying the game once, giving away the Steam key and playing the DRM free version. That would be wrong. You're not given the key as a gift, just as an option for playing either way (through Steam or without it). If you give it away you should give away the DRM free option at the same time.
It's unrelated to submitting single keys from bundles. Single keys from bundles are morally fine, they're just not allowed on Steam Gifts. A lot of them are given here in the forum, though. As long as you already own the game or don't want to play it, there's no reason not to let someone else play it.
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It's unrelated to submitting single keys from bundles.
I'd say it works in exactly the same way, if we're both talking of HIB-like bundles -- you are given both DRM-free and Steam versions, but only for your convenience, not to spread it.
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If you give away the keys to an HIB and play the DRM-free version, that's also morally questionable. What ET3D meant is that if you already have a game or are simply not interested to play it, then giving away your keys should be acceptable.
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(Just to clarify, I wouldn't even consider doing this myself (not even with AAA titles). On the contrary, I don't like it and I agree the developers deserve more respect/appreciation.)
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They are using the Humble store front, but this isn't a Humble Bundle or fall under those guidelines. People can do whatever they want with their Steam key.
Edit: Oh, you mean gifting the DRM-free copy to other people? Yeah, that's definitely piracy. We can't tolerate piracy.
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Well, I meant giving away the Steam key and "gifting" (keeping) the DRM-free version to themselves, which to me seems like the exact same kind of piracy, only with the roles swapped. (Granted, you can't know for sure what they are going to do with their DRM-free copy -- they might genuinely not use it.)
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So the developer gave you an option to use steam version if you prefer steam or drm free version for a very low indie price and still you choose to screw them and give someone basically a pirated copy ?
Why are you still here and not on piratebay ?
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(You aren't talking to me right now, are you? Because I am against that practice, as should be obvious from my posts in this thread.)
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Given that I'm one who is giving away grimrock in this way I have to admit I created it thinking: cool they gave me 2 copies of the game and since it seems selfish to keep both for me so let's give away the steam key! Never thought it in the way that it is one copy and 2 way of access it. I have misinterpreted what the page said in the excitement of buying the game. So if the giveaway has to be deleted, go ahead, sorry for the mistake.
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"That's exactly what Ozio meant. You get a link with both the DRM-free game and the Steam key, wich gives youa choice of how you want to play it. It's not 2 copies, it's 2 different ways to access your game." I do agree alot with this statement in the comment page of the giveaway. I am going to fake it and say that I am quoting myself.
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Yeah, as tubberware observe in the comments of that giveaway, "Lack of DRM should not be abused"--especially for indie devs who are nice enough to give this to us.
I find the game interesting, but I did not enter it. I think the giveaway should be removed.
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What do you (both users and mods) think of submitting activation keys for Legend of Grimrock? Considering you get them together with a DRM-free version if you buy it directly, "giving them away" looks awfully like submitting individual keys from bundles. Which, I'd say, is hardly commendable -- unless the license says something about this, I wouldn't be surprised if this was labeled as piracy. Your thoughts?
EDIT: (And because some people seem to have some difficulties reading, I'll state it explicitly here: I am against this practice.)
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