Allowed to give Humble Bundle Keys

Yes, I know, hence my question. People are giving away the entire key as a single game in the key. This wasn't allowed in the past, but it seems like it is okay nowadays.

Yeah, this is exactly the reason why the individual games are placed on the bundle list. But I know that probably half a year ago (back to the last humble bundle with shared keys), there were quite a few threads covering this, and support always said that it was "misrepresentation" to group all of the games into one giveaway.

For some bundles yes, for others no. Staff have stated they stoped added individual games from single keys when they clearly haven't.

If they it is marked as bundled, I dont see why not it wouldnt be honest. The staff already assumes people are giving it by putting it on the bundle list.

definitely not, because the non-BTA doesn't have Dead Island. the winner has the right to report the case i believe

Hey, I'm on your side. I argued in the past that this practice should be allowed, but support and most of the forum said that it was "misrepresentation"

I think you'll find that most people here with a lot of CV don't actually care very much about it at all. I certainly don't.

This is not about maintaining a high CV - it's about keeping things fair across the board. Some people choose to rightly mark what they're giving away as the bundle that it is while others don't.

While that's true to some extent, and there may be a handful of users who sneer at those with lower CV values, these are [fortunately] very much in the minority.

If the CV figure was not shown on profiles, these folks would simply take exactly the same view based on a user's list of games given away, so I don't think it a lot would change. Any snobbery would just be based on a different criterion (which is essentially a non-numerical form of CV anyway).

Additionally, there are few who have a problem with giving away bundles either. If a game is good, who cares where it came from? In fact, the bundle capping has made giving such games away a lot more acceptable to the general community IMO. Since nothing is being gained by giving away bundles (in terms of CV, anyway), these are given purely out of charity rather than in the hope of getting a foothold on the next level of that greasy contribution pole.

The gifters who insist on a minimum CV for their games would, in all likelihood, simply stop making public giveaways, and make their giveaways group/private. There would be more groups whose membership demanded not a CV figure, but a "decent" track record of giveways, which would amount to the same thing, although with a little more subjectivity applied.

Many opponents of the CV system anticipate its abolition to result in a watershed event, where suddenly Steamgifts would be awash with heaps of AAA giveaways they were now able to enter. This would not happen. There are much better criticisms of CV, such as its divisive nature and somewhat arbitrary calculation, but that's been done to death in a thousand other threads!

Personally I'm slightly more in favour of keeping it than removing it, but only slightly. Until a better solution is found, I can't see the logic in axing it altogether.

I highly disagree with you. I know many people who are in the "decent" or higher CV category and they aren't snobby or anything.

I would also like to add that most of the people who complain about the elitist who romp around the forums with their noses in the air, are usually people who don't have a high cv or cv at all.

I don't think the attitude you're talking about is common on the forums.

What? Elitist? Thats like 1% of the people here...

Here's one of the threads I was referring to. I guess sitewide opinions can change after a couple of months.

This is a fairly thorough answer to the main Steamgifts side of things, however, it doesn't address another issue: Humble Bundle themselves require their buyers to agree to not split up the bundle. Well, they sort of do that. It's more of a rule than a license agreement. Vague territory.

Pretty much what I think as well.

If you're giving away a Humble Bundle, only unused URLs should be provided. I used to suspend users for misrepresentation when they only gave bundle keys, as they don't include the whole bundle.

As for giving grouped bundle keys as a game, as long as you give what you selected, I believe it's fine. In other words, if you choose Saints Row 3 for a below average Humble Bundle key, that's fine as long as the game is in the bundle list.

Normally, considering grouped keys, the games in that key wouldn't be put in the bundle list, as you are technically not giving that game but a key that includes that game. But considering the SG userbase, it's less taxing on support to just add all of them to the bundle list and let users create whatever giveaway they want.

I would generally agree with this.

I saw a user do this myself. I've alerted support to this, since all three titles that make the Platinum release are bundled together for $3, and there isn't a reason to not include it in the bundle list.