At least I'm not a valve employee, otherwise it would've been pretty scary. XD
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And on another news; Gaben is ready to announce HL3 tomorrow.
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I don't think that's possible. But to answer, it would hugely impact the PC industry, many people want Steam DRM games over DRM free ones (I'm one of them, to be honest). SG would probably eventually close, no one would use Origin. I'm too poor to donate and would wait for others to do so. EA is obviously the best company to rule Steam. sarcasm.
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With all the sarcasm, Origin is quite decent. But yeah, if EA ever takes over Steam they would take Steam downhill at best.
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Well, steam's DRM isn't that bad anyway, I can play the games offline, so I just treat it as a game manager.
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The part of Steam that stores all your games in one place is not the DRM. It's basically the same account function as every other online game store out there.
The DRM is the part that doesn't let you start a game unless the Steam client is running and connected to the servers (or in offline mode).
The people you speak of are uninformed. Now that you're no longer uninformed, please help us dispel this misconception by explaining it whenever you talk to someone who doesn't understand.
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Weird how noone noted that till now, too little grammar nazis in SG.
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Well, for my defense English isn't my first language. :P
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Defense is in American English, no? And urgh, I don't know why I said 'for' instead of 'in', elementary mistake. And don't worry, I didn't take it too personal. :P
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This was an honest mistake as well, my English isn't that bad, I swear! XD
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I actually like Origin much more than Desura. ^^"
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You may do, but when the smelly stuff hits the fan and everyone is freaking out because they can't play their games anymore due to the DRM in steam, people will buck at the idea of Origin's DRM, uplay DRM and pretty much any other form of subscription based DRM.
With Desura, almost all the games from there come with DRM free access to the downloads - so at least you could 'backup' your games if Desura was go too.
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if they go bankrupt we lose all our games. I'd want gog to take over because there the only ones i can think of that don't have a policy allowing them to revoke ownership. Or more likely than them desura.
impact on computer industry would be minimal, others are poised to take their place.
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I remember somewhere they said that they would find a way to keep our games if they went bankrupt. Can't remember where I heard it though.
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There is already a fake steam client that lets you run your games but doesnt call home. In other words, it runs just like steam in offline mode. Problem is, that people own thousands of games and probably dont have the ability to download/store all of that data.
Hell, I have a rather small collection of about 260~ games and they take up more then 1TB alone.
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The company would be sold if it went bankrupt, and someone like EA would jump in to buy it. Of course, if it went bankrupt, Valve did something wrong and the new owner would fix that.
Assuming the Steam store wasn't the source of bleeding losses, the new owner would keep it online.
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If a company is bankrupt it's because it has debt it can not pay. So assets will be first sold to recover money to pay off the debt. This means everything under the company, be it game development studios, its games, any of the things they license out to other companies, even office builds, etc are sold off.
Sometimes with larger companies, the company is split into smaller parts and sold off, but the actual company will be bankrupt. There will be no buy out as a whole.
So while the steam part of Valve might be brought out by the likes of EA, it doesn't mean that license agreements setup with valve for titles included in steam will still be valid. There are a lot of publishers who've got an agreement with valve and without knowing what's in their contracts, we could be left with steam as it is under a new company, or we could have a few titles missing or may titles missing. EA might buy it out and transfer all the license agreements to Origin and close steam down and tell us to rebuy the games on Origin.
That's the price we pay for a subscription license based gaming model.
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+1. But this may not necessarily be the case they could fail for reasons not related to pc gaming i.e if Valve takes too many risks the steam box launch could potentially end them.
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Considering I do not buy Non-steam DRM games anymore.. it would impact the industry a lot as I know a lot of my friends now a days will only buy a game as long as it is Steam.
It's easier to have Steam than to install Xfire and all these other gaming clients that used to exist.
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Are you sure you don't buy non-Steam DRM games? There's usually no easy way to find out if a Steam game uses the Steam DRM before installing it. I'd also like to know what you find so attractive about the DRM.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about, check my comments near the top of the thread.
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To me, I'd be pissed. No valve = no steam right? = all my games are gone.
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wait a little and Gabe will dominate the world, he could do it if all about Steam Wallet Cards gone well and no companies complained, so wallet card could be available not only in some countries, but in all the world, ( hope this will happen and will be the end of physical videogames, I mean that useless thing called disk)
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I tell ya, the portal gun is already prepared for such occasion.
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Easy, valve will build a spaceship with a database with all the games and fly off to other planets to colonize with games, maybe then they'll release HL3, but it would be probably be canceled due to racism against aliens.
(it's good that you don't let bad feelings get in the way of entertainment.)
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Amazon is trying its best to put Steam (as a sales model) out of business.
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I'm sure Steam gets a cut since the games are played on the Steam platform, but the Valve loses the revenue from the actual sale to Amazon, GMG, etc.
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Not compete as a gaming platform, but competing for sales of the games themselves. You think Amazon, GG and GMG making sales doesn't cut into Valve's revenue stream?
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-cut the stupid paragraph-
I can't say I know for sure, but I'd be surprised if Valve wasn't getting a kickback from every game sold on these other sites. If they didn't have to pay Valve, every developer would just generate Steam keys and sell them elsewhere so they could avoid the 30% cut.
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I'm not seeing how my response differs from my original post. I was just talking about sales (I even specified "sales model"), not licensing or as a gaming platform. Amazon may not be targeting Steam (it was a joke!) but it has been super aggressive in the last year on digital sales, as have GG, GMG and Nuuvem, and that has to be a problem for Valve. You could be right in that Steam does get a cut of any sales through third parties, but that would only mitigate the problem to a degree.
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I think we, PC consumers, have enough of a spine to not immigrate to Origin - although it's likely that some people take the opportunity to stand up for their rights and choose a service that respects that (ex. Desura), while some will stick to whichever service comes easiest. The choice of platform on which games would be released after this crash would be the decisive factor.
But I'm calling the Steam store becoming P2P before anything like this happens.
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I think in this context he meant pay2pay. XDD
(yeah, I know such terminology doesn't exist)
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I meant Peer-to-peer. To me, that's not any less likely than Valve falling, and it kind of fits into the theme of Valve distancing their influence from Steam and making it the store more decentralized.
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If Valve were to go bankrupt tomorrow how much of an effect it would have on the PC industry? how hard will you take it personally? What will happen to Steamgifts? will it become Origingifts? How luckily for such an event to actually happen? If Valve opened a donation to return Steam, how much would you donate? And if all fails, what company you would've wanted to take over Steam?
P.S: No, I don't think Steam will go bankrupt, at l;east not in the near 100 years.
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