While I've posited other alternatives as being more likely, there's still the chance that the gift links are being compromised due to a flaw in Humble's security. That security flaw is unlikely to be in the gift-link codes themselves [unless there's some sort of predictable pattern to their creation], but from the perspective of the users, the nuance of the difference isn't really relevant.
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[unless there's some sort of predictable pattern to their creation]
There is usually some predictability in it. It's incredibly difficult to create a pattern free algorithm. But it can still be an almost innoticable pattern, so yeah, it's most likely not in the link.
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There's always a pattern in coding, there's never a completely random, it's coded so it's never actually random. Same goes with Steam keys, but you don't see them being stolen as much as humble gift links lately? Also Steam keys have much less characters in them than Humble gift links. :P
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A fun picture, but inaccurate. Modern scientists now believe dinosaur bones were planed by satan to deceive mankind
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So I've got a quick question about the above proof.
Why is the world gonna end in 1e17 seconds?
I done a quick bit of mental arithmatic based on my vague memory of school maths. This is a little over 3 billion years right?
Other than that seems good proof :)
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It should be a little longer (based on entropy arguments I read in the past), but for your point it should be sufficient :)
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Problem is they can tho ... i lost some shity game awhile back and im 102% sure my account wasnt compromised .
Had to spend 10$ to give a game that i got for 3.27 as part of 8 games bundle ...
SO yeah , they CAN be guessed :) dont understimate the russians
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Why do you take the logarithm of the number if you want to exponentiate it at the next line ? :)
An important remark that hasn't been made is that while we had a few reports on this forum of people where all gift links were hacked, we do not have a single report of people where only one git link was hacked.
This might convince math sceptics that people are actually NOT guessing the gift links. It would be almost impossible that only a few people would be impacted, and for all their links, if it were the case.
It indeed looks like a breach at HB, or at some individual users.
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Since multiple people reported their gift links being compromised, without any indication that the account being compromised as well (unless I'm remembering wrong? I admit I haven't paid much attention to this), wouldn't it mean that either there is actually some pattern or some other kind of possible security link?
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'1e9 times the remaining life of the universe per successful attempt'
But you're saying there's a chance? i better get started
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What they didn't consider is: If the chances are 1 out of a million (but it has to be exactly 1 out of a million) it is bound to happen. The chances are like 1 : 1 :D
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It's an idea that comes from one of my favourite Terry Pratchett books "Guards! Guards!" but I'm sure I didn't explain it as well as he did. There's a certain magic to the odds of one in a million... If something has just a 1 : 1.000.000 chance to succeed, it will succeed with absolute certainty. But the odds have to be exactly one in a million for that rule to apply ;)
It was ment mostly as an insider joke for Discworld fans :D
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Yea, he's the best when it comes to smart comedy (although Christopher Moore comes pretty close in his best books).
Discworld is amazing, specially the early ones, but he was extremly productive with ~ 50 Discworld novels so I get why that can be kind of intimidating. So if you maybe want to try something Stand-Alone I can highly recommend "Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch". He wrote it together with Neil Gaiman.
I have to admit I haven't read The unadulterated cat but I'll definintly check it out (although I'm more of a dog person :D).
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Interesting. I completly forgot that.
By the way I find it quite funny how they still call it a trilogy although there are 6 books. The last one (by Eoin Colfer, which is surprisingly way better than the one that was made from Douglas Adams unfinished text fragments) even has part 6 of the Trilogy written on the cover :D
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answer from Humble Bundle support:
It appears that your keys were in fact compromised by a third party. I was able to reset/revoke the keys in question, while also revoking the keys that had been gifted away. This type of key theft does not happen often, but it does happen. We are currently in the process of making it more difficult for hackers and resellers to scrape URL for unused or unclaimed bundles or gift links.
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Bottom line: don't create gift links if you don't need them straightaway. If you need to organize your keys in a spreadsheet or so, just but the bundle URL there instead. Yes, this will waste 8 seconds of your precious time every time you need a gift URL. Sorry.
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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Your formula is the chance of a successful guess for ONE link.
You need to multiply by the current number of active links generated by HIB in their databases. It will still be low, but not as low.
If your results of 1e9 times the remaining life of the universe is correct, if HiB database have one million active link, they will only need 1e3 times the remaining life of the universe to guess one active link.
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i leave out pieces when im trying to win an argument too, its an awesome way to skew the results and be correct ^^
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well surely the difference in guessing one specific link is much much more improbable than guessing ANY one link
"HUMBLE GIFT URLS CANNOT BE GUESSED" is an all inclusive statement
improbable that it will be your link, but impossible? i think not
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Obviously no one will guess them incrementally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_attack
Maybe the codes are generated something like
hash(current_time())
or
hash(random_int(0, 1000000000))
This would make it a lot easier to guess.
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A good password, and not reusing it. If a site gets hacked, and unsalted hashes for passwords gets leaked, it's entirely possible for passwords to get compromised. If you have a 20 letter long password that's not consisting of common words, you're probably safe, but if you have an 8 letter long password, even if you're not using any words in it, your password can easily get brute-forced by someone with a moderately powerful computer.
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yeah, my password is different on EVERY site/app i use. even a super password becomes shit once 1 of the sites you use it on gets hacked.
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hacks/breaches/insider leaks are more likely the cause to get your entire information/logins
stored on a mail stolen... even without being about as savvy as the next raw potato could be
/yahoo
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