I stop feeling bad and start being awesome instead :D
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Teachers all over the world are paid poorly, I wish governments would recognise that they need to invest in education for a bright future.
But that's not helping you right now. I do like the suggestion of clearing/cleaning your house.
Personally, I find cleaning windows/mirrors and gardening very relaxing and uplifting. (knitting, crochet and cross-stitching is awesome, too)
Call a friend or....as you did....create a post ;) Reaching out to others, being social cuts down on time to feel sad.
I do hope you feel better really soon.
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When I'm feeling down, I continue feeling down. I wallow in misery and negativity as I drift numbly through the same old routines, getting on with life, but not really living it, barely present at all. If I'm really down I will retreat from everyone, destroy memories of the past and lose the motivation to partake of even the most passive of distractions like listening to music or watching videos, instead choosing to lie on the floor, in the dark, hoping the feeling will pass soon. Everything I do is something I do when I'm feeling down...
If you want some advice, I would recommend not doing this.
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Reading this just broke my heart. I so hope you manage to find a way to make yourself feel better. I have no doubt that a person like you, someone willing to say how he feels just to help out a stranger, has many people that care about him. I know it's hard when you're feeling like that but, sometimes, a friend can help the world seem like a better place.
When I feel that low I go to my mom and have her hug me until I start to get a bit better. No matter how old I get, nothing will replace my mom's hugs :)
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Thank you for the kind words and sorry about your heart. Your interpretation of my actions is interesting. I feel decidedly unhelpful and generally self-centred talking about myself like this, not that that stops me.
Maybe I do have people that care about me, but there isn't really anyone I feel close to at the moment, either in a literal spacial sense or in terms of friendship. I haven't seen any of my friends in person for years. Those few that used to make the effort to see me, no longer bother. I suspect my aversion to even relatively moderate social environments adds more friction than people are willing to put up with indefinitely. I'm aware I should probably make some effort myself, but it does not come naturally to me and the discomfort of the preferred avenues of socialising is not yet outweighed by loneliness. The best I've managed is chatting to a friend I haven't seen for 7 or 8 years on Facebook occasionally, and while the interaction is positive, I often find it somewhat hollow and it usually leaves me feeling empty once more in the end.
I've never had the most physical relationship with my family (or anyone else for that matter), so hugs have been few and far between in my life so far. And now, of all times, I don't want to burden them with myself. They have enough to deal with these days.
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I know exacty how you feel. I'm the same when it comes to social environments and human interactions.
Some of my best friends live in the opposite part of my country and the only thing we can do is talk on the phone since neither of us can afford the trip. It keeps me going to know that they love me, no matter how far apart we are.
The friends I have here I try to see as much as I can, but I'm terribly lazy and when I get in a bad mood I just prefer to stay at home and not have even them coming around.
No one is perfect and all of them have let me down in one way or another, but on the other hand all of them have shown they'd never do it intentionally and they'd basically give their lives for me. I'm not exaggerating.
As for the physical relationship, I'm guessing it's harder on men than on women. Hugging and kissing among friends comes naturally to me and my friends. It's just another way of giving comfort and showing you're there for one another.
Maybe you could try and make a female friend? I know that's like saying go out and become rich, but it's worth the effort. Sometimes I need my male best friend's comfort. The girls' just wouldn't be the same.
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I have found that I usually felt more comfortable around my female friends than my male ones. With male friends there is almost always an implicit fight for dominance in one form or another, with varying levels of subtlety. As someone who doesn't care for that kind of thing, I effectively default to the lowest social rank. Not so with the female friends. Things feel more equal there, less social politics, no petty boisterousness.
At this point I'm pretty lost. My old friends seem to have thriving social lives and realistically there's no way I can worm my way back into their lives in any meaningful way at this point. Making new friends seems impossible. Every friend I've made up to this point has been from being forced into the same place for extended periods of time (namely school, college, university etc.) or through another friend. I don't have either of these sources any more. My workplace has a very small number of staff. I see 3 people regularly, 2 of which are my bosses and the other is my cousin, none of which can really work as friends. The only places left to find friends are designed to accommodate people far more outgoing than myself. It also doesn't help that a significant portion of the people in my town are openly hostile towards me for no apparent reason. It makes me feel like not leaving the house at all, never mind socialising.
That is probably the root of my current unhappiness. Not just being lonely, but also seeing no way out...
Apologies for sort of hijacking your thread with my mopy rambling.
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there's no way I can worm my way back into their lives in any meaningful way at this point.
Why not just call your friend, say something like "hey, long time no see, how about going out for a cup of coffee?". See if you can re-connect with your old friend.
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Ohohohho, you'd be surprised, my friend how nasty the fight for dominance can get in the female world. Men are little children comapred to women when it comes to social manipulation. But, the good thing is that the fight very rarely crosses the gender line so we're spared seeing what it's really like for the other gender.
I too have met my friends the same way you have yours, that's perfectly normal and to be expected. What better way to meet potential friends than through the ones you already have? You avoid the whole "would I have anything in common with this person and is he/she worth my time"- your current friends already made sure that's true, and the ones you meet through school and stuff liike that you already know you have stuff in common, right? ;)
Yeah, making new friends seems to be an impossible mission once you're done with your education, unless you dare making friends at work. I know I won't be able to since people have warned me against talking to other teachers I'll work with. All of my friends who've gone into teaching and my old teachers I've spoken to swear it's best to have as little interaction with others as possible. So sad...
You coupd always call up an old friend and ask them to go for a cup of cofee with you. What's wrong with that? Just tell them you could use the company since you've been feeling down and see what happens. They might surprise you :)
I really don't know what to suggest to you, other than that, except getting a hobby that you'd like and that would get you in contact with other similar-minded people. And yeah, I know it's hard to force yourself to go out there once you've been burnt. Trust me, I know.
Hahaha, yeah, how dare you mope around in my moping thread xD xD xD
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All of my friends who've gone into teaching and my old teachers I've spoken to swear it's best to have as little interaction with others as possible. So sad...
Just out of curiosity, why is this? I have a friend who's an elementary school teacher, and he seems to get along with most of his colleges (though not all of them).
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Many things add up to make very toxic enviroment. Public school teachers have about 20h long work week, plus 2 months of summer break. Law (at least here) makes it very hard to terminate permanent contract, meaninig basically you have guaranteed employment till retirement. Monthly pay is pretty low when compared with private sector white collars job leading to negative selection of ppl studying pedagogics. High competiton for a job also plays a role - in most fields there is way more fresh graduates then job openings.
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It's quite hard to terminate permanent contracts here as well, you need to either have done something seriously wrong, or they need to show that they have to fire you because there's no work for you, and they can't find something else for you to do. Just being plain old not very good at your job is not enough. And yeah, pay is low, and currently you just need to have passed high school in order to be accepted into a uni/college that educates future teachers, and this does result in a bunch of poorly motivated teachers, who only wanted to become teachers because that was the only thing they could become. Here the competition is close to 0 though. Sweden needs thousands more teacher, but almost no-one wants to become a teacher (teachers are not the only ones in high demand over here, nurses are also in short supply).
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Oh, I've seen the fireworks of female politics, it is pretty scary stuff, even the closest of friendships can be shattered in an instant if the balance is broken, but as you say I've avoided the crosshairs myself.
Hmm, there are many layers of things in the way of the coffee idea. Not least the fact that I don't even like coffee. ;)
But yeah, I'm not even sure I've ever been close enough with anyone still living near me that it wouldn't be the equivalent of being asked by a stranger, and that's something I'm definitely not comfortable with.
The hobbies I enjoy are solitary and generally computer based. But the closest to socialising I get with that is conversations like these.
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Well, you get tea then. Or, meet in the evening and get a beer. xD
Getting out of your comfort zone is the only way to change things since your comfort zone has led you to the way things are now. It doesn't have to be for long, though. Just get out of it, re-acquaint yourself with one or two people you've met before and who you think would be friend material and then you can slowly pull them in into your comfort zone.
For example, there are reasons why I won't go into the center of the town for coffee (99% of the time), take the bus to go to the outskirts of the town to visit my friends' places or invite people to come to my place. Yeah, I'm a handfull, I know xD.
My friends deal with that and meet with me in the one place I like to go for coffee, or I take a taxi and go to visit them for a coffee at their place or at a coffee place in their part of the town. Why? Because, my quirks aside, I try to be a good friend to them and they know that, if they really really wanted me to do do all the stuff I hate doing because they wanted to do something more than I hated it, I'd do it for them. It's as simple as that. You gotta give to receive, it's the way life works. If you show no interest in people they'll most likely ignore you too.
Would we be having this conversation if I haven't reached out to the community when I was feeling down? Or if you just ignored me, instead of showing compassion? Nope. It's the same out there.
Keep in mind, having just a few good friends is more than enough. At least for me. I have one male best friend, 2-3 good male friends I can call up for coffee or for help, 3 best female friends that live nearby, one I'm equally close to that lives on the opposite side of the country and one that I'm pretty good with that I go for coffee.
The thing is, I haven't seen one of my female best friends since primary school and bumped into her in the cinema 15 years later. I asked her for coffee and we immediately continued having the same close relationship we had as children.
Another one of them I went to university with, haven't seen her 2 years since and then we agreed to meet half-way in Zagreb. We just went for a coffee and then back home. That was half a year ago. I miss her A LOT but she's really busy and not one to talk on the phone a lot. Neither of us can afford to go and meet like that more than maybe once a year. Doesn't change the fact I love her the same as I would if she were here.
It's been known to happen, with one of my closest friends that lives like 15mins by car away from me, that we don't see eachother for months or even a year. Neither of us takes it as an insult or a sign of lack of love. We know we can call anytime for help if we need it, but also know that people don't want to deal with someone's quirks all the time. I might just not be in the mood to talk to her or she with me. Nothing wrong with that. Doesn't change the fact that I love her or she me.
It's important to know that time doesn't dissolve real friendships and that you have to learn to deal with other people's quirks if you want them to deal with yours.
My mom said two days ago "Your friends are... Special. You can't compare them with other people" while we were talking about my fear of going to work among strangers. They truly are. They are the most amazing people I ever met, their quirks and faults are just a tiny part of them and you end up laughing about them when they pop up xD.
So be brave and give a little. Maybe there are just as amazing people around you too :)
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Would you believe that I don't like tea or alcohol either? I suppose it is typical of me to have an aversion to pretty much all of the traditionally social beverages. :P
The give to receive element is problematic given how thoroughly I've convinced myself that I have nothing to give that anyone in their right mind could possibly want and anything they might want from me they can surely get from someone they're already closer to. Every social transaction feels selfish, no matter how many times I've been told that it's fine. I neither want to be relied upon by others (as I do not believe I am particularly reliable), nor to become a burden with my own reliance on them. The ideal solution seems like it would be to remove the desire for companionship from my mind directly, but I don't think that's practical given the current state of modern brain surgery. Oh well, these are things I will probably have to work on at some point.
I think this conversation has been useful. The outsiders perspective is always welcome. I'm feeling a bit better than I was a couple of days ago, and you've given me some new things to think about. Thanks for taking the time to share your advice and experience. It is appreciated regardless of how stubbornly grouchy I remain.
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My cousin is the same, she too doesn't enjoy anything normally drunk in a coffee place. She always used to get just a glass of water. It took me ages to convince her to drink something else since, as she too was having issues fitting in (but really wanted to fit in), and though it might not seem much people no longer got the first "weird" impression when she switched to coffee. There's so many available drinks in bars and cafes it really can't be challenging to find one you'd enjoy.
And what? You think I or anyone else is so extra special or exciting that we have soooo much to give that no one else does? Hahhaahha... Come on, be serious xD.
And what the bleep is wrong about being selfish? Did someone manage to convince you that they're actually not?! We ALL get something out of EVERYTHING we do. If we weren't getting it, we wouldn't be doing it. You either must do something (so you get food, shelter...), want to do it for ourselves (yaaay, happy us) or do it for someone else (and here we get their grattitude and approval AND we get to feel good about it) so don't you go around thinking there's anyone out there who isn't selfish at his/her core. It's basic biology and psychology of humans and I know a thing or two about psychology ;)
It just depends what you want to get in exchenge for doing stuff and, if social acceptance, self-approval and approval of others make.you feel good, you don't actually appear outwardly as being selfish since those things are looked kindly upon by the society.
My friend, you need a reality check. There's absolutely nothing wrong with you except the fact that you're buying into too much holier-than-thou crap that the world constanty shoves down our throats.
Been there, done that, had a conversation about it with a much smarter and socially accepted person than myself, got over it!
As for you not thinking of yourself as reliable, that's your own decision. No one is reliable if they choose not to be.
I am very happy it helped and I'm here for you if you ever want to talk about it more. I really hope you'll give my words some thought and at least try to live by them for a week. What's one week to give something so simple a go in a span of a whole lifetime? :)
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Man, what is up with women, depression and overeating? D;
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I got just a thing for you :)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNcNQJrJrTCK-WusjXc5IpWr70XBz0VD9
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I started to compile this list few years ago, watching all of those videos helped me a lot :)
Croatian here also, btw. Its though in this country...
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I'm not really acquainted with the Orthodox since I'm a Catholic (more or less) way so I don't know what that would be, but I don't go to church as I know what kind of people the priests in my local church are. Trust me, I wouldn't gain anything by going to see them.
As for your advice, I'm sure it would be amazing for someone who was as lucky as you are to have priests they could talk to. Thank you for pointing that option out to me, though :)
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Okay, you'll probably think I'm a terrible person (which I am), but when I feeling down, it always helps me to make an imaginary list of people that I can't stand and think of the most gruesome ways those people would have a fatal accident. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone violence and I'd never hurt a anyone ...but with some people (a lot of people actually) it's really revitalizing to imagine what could happen...
Other than that ... go play a game or watch a movie ... always helps as well ;-)
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Ohh, thanks a lot! I returned the favor!
I don't know, I kinda just really liked the idea of an imaginary list of people for something like that :D
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Nemoj da se bedacis, jer ovo je ovde balkan
Kod nas otvoreno traze 2000-5000e za radno mesto, znas kako kazu dzaba diploma na zid da je stavis Glavu gore, nikada ne znas KADA ce nesto dobro da ti se desi.
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When I'm feeling down, I tend to eat. A lot.
Apart from that, probably just staying in bed and / or just go to YouTube and watch videos of my favourite YouTubers.
Occasionally I also buy stuff so I got something to look forward to but that's very rare since I absolutely hate spending money.
I really hope you can figure all of this out. A friend of mine is in a similar situation right now and it's just so sad to see her struggle that much and be unhappy about it and stuff. So I really hope you'll somehow find a solution that's better for you. Doing stuff that makes you unhappy is just.. well, honestly? stupid in my opinion. And yes, life is hard and sometimes you gotta do stuff that you don't wanna do but still.. I feel like there's always another option for job-related problems..
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I totally agree with you. I have decided to give it a go for a month. If it goes well- great. If I see I'm feeling terrible because of it I'm just gonna quit and move on to something else. Me having to be a teacher is not written in stone. I can always open my own shcool for language lessons. :)
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Talk with your friends, play games, read a book, focus your mind in other things, if you have a friend that can listen to you and give you good advice go for it :3 later play some videogames together, friendship is a really nice tool, u can also go and workout or watch a movie, distracting your mind always help ~ The most important thing is that always try to have a positive actitude no matter what things u are going through and when you are feeling down always find someone that can push you up again and help you recover .
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I am really happy to help, u can always count on this community if you ever need help :3 we are friendos anyways so, take care and be happy ! life sometimes is though, the important thing is to learn how to deal with everything, once at a time and always count on friends that are worth it and trust me, they will help you when you need them :3 ~
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Coming from the same country as you I know how you feel :D
Went through a lot of stuff and jobs, mostly bad experiences and few rare good ones ;)
What would always cheer me up is exercise, now I know this might seem stupid but it's actually legit cause your brain releases dopamine.
In turn this makes you feel good about yourself and it makes you happier.
I guess anything that I do which gives me a feeling that I'm moving forward, learning something new, increasing my skill with something or even expanding my knowledge about certain subject makes me happy.
It might be with most of us that when we feel like we are moving forward it makes us happy and more content with ourselves.
Other stuff I do is that I help others no matter if I have little to give I find a way to create something that will make the other person feel special and cherished.
Sometimes when I'm really down I just go and walk through the town and give random smiles to strangers on the road.
Most of them return the smile and if you are giving smiles for the last hour or two you start feeling good and happy.
My cousin always taught me that happiness is a choice, which sounded really stupid to me when I was little but in the last 4 yours I think I figured it out.
Sometimes through our life we are surrounded with so many negative stuff which seem so BIG that we forget that we can accumulate small random positive things just by opening our eyes and looking beyond all the bad stuff :D
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Qiyamul Lail (The Night Prayer) is when you wake up and pray usually after mid night and before the sun rise, when everyone else is sleeping Between that time there is only you and God and you can ask anything from him. The moslem usually do it with doing sholat May God bring you peace and lift all your problem.
The Benefits of the Night Prayer :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG_RBk7-T3A
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a good bit of comedy usually cheers me up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUNvFVQYClY
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I tend to wallow in my misery for a couple of days, sometime more, that in turn usually make me pretty determined to sort it out, because its hard to stay like that - my wife (back when she was studying a lot on this stuff) used to talk to me a lot about mental health theory, kind of part of her job and studies, once when I was really down (similiar situation around work, what I wanted to do v's what I should/kinda wanted vs what others wanted me to do) she was talking about Carl Rogers, the ideal self and the organismic self - and it really struck a chord (I suspect it was no accident) and I started reading up on it....
http://www.simplypsychology.org/carl-rogers.html
https://cgjj.wikispaces.com/Theory
it was so very relevant to me at the time but it just stuck with me (and that was fifteen years ago :p) and I still do (after I have wallowed for a couple of days of course) head back to those ideas to sort myself out.
Or yeah I might just sod all that and get drunk with friends instead :D
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Yeah, as a pedagogyst I'm pretty familiar with most psych theories and ways to help people getting back on tracks. Keeping the ID in check can be a handfull and my ID is pretty strong. Thank god I'm too lazy to actually work on getting it what it wants. Except for pizza... I broke my diet last night as it strongly demanded pizza and there was no way of convincing it that a nice apple or a banana would do just as well xD
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I did see you had done pedagogyst, infact to be honest your remit looked really good (I work in an University myself, for the last decade), nothing suggests to me you are lazy at all, quiet the opposite, maybe a bit hard on yourself (but thats academics all over, right :p ).
Now that pizza, did you get it with garlic bread, or even garlic bread with cheese (drool), cos if you didnt get it with garlic bread it doesnt count, of course not everyone subscribes to my diet theory :D
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Oooh a new word! What does "remit" mean? :D.
Nope, just a normal pizza with 4 varieties of cheese, paprikas, ham, sour cream and kulen (a type of flavoured, spicy sausage made of minced pork that is traditionally produced in Croatia).
Your diet theory seems to be the best one ever. Sadly, my body begs to differ xD
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Yeah dont know why we use that word in this sense at all, guess I picked it up in the workplace - a kind of colloquialism.
I was saying your qualifications and skills for the post you are undertaking looked really good - but also in this sense more than that, that they are good regardless of the undertaking :)
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For just a momentary distraction, I usually turn to skin care. Sounds weird I guess. And very girly... but it's nice to do like a facial mask or something just to pamper yourself and feel nice.
I know it kinda sucks right now but at least you will be getting experience along the way. You never know what opportunities lie ahead so keep positive!
"Pease, please ... "
Okay, here you go!
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Pampering myself never helps, I can only truly enjoy it if I'm already in a good mood.
You should see what my weekly bubble bath preparation includes xD.
Yup, you're right. I just need to keep thinking of how I'll learn new things that'll help me later on :)
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Stop feeling down, immediately, then forget whatever it was and move on.
There's many things in this life that I don't like, hate, people that disgust me, disappoint me or make me sad, but feeling down just because of that? nope.
Listen to some music, play games and exercise, pretty much helps 99% the time.
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The trick is to actually think about something else when you're feeling down, for example things that make you happy or at least things you like, think about things you have, and not about what you don't, not having negative thoughts help aswell, and you'll never ever have to feel down again.
Not sure for others but this actually helps me alot, along with doing stuff which I love most, for example gaming, listening to music and etc.
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Yeah, I'm usually like that too. After the initial shock passes I think of all the amazing things and people I have in my life and I instantly get better. Also, knowing that this community is always there to help any of its members makes a great deal of difference :)
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Watch this, turn volume a bit louder and I'm sure that will cheer you up, and help to feel better. Write if it helped. Good Luck and be strong!
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The second one isn't quite my taste, but the first one gave me goosebumps.
It reminded me of this. That's the one I always listen to when I must find the inner strength to do anything.
Thank you for sharing this with me, the first one is going straight into my favourites <3
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I feel your situation,as i'll be in the same one soon probably...however,never give up! When i feel down i go out,take a long walk by the river while eating a good italian "gelato" ^^
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I know it's hard at times when ya feelin down but I smile and think it could be worse as there's always someone worse than ya self :D
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Yeah, I just fell into the "worse" category. Found out my entire next month will be horrible since my doctor didn't f*cking give me my prescription (it was due yesterday!!!!!) and it's saturday so no one can do it... I've gone from being worried about the job to being happy because "I can do it!" and now to full mental. And nope, I can't start taking it with a delay because it would mess me up badly. Argh! Some weeks, man... Just... Some weeks!
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I know that feelin very well, not had my meds for over two weeks went to get them yesterday thinking they ready but not gotta wait until Monday now. Just be ya self every one gets nervous n that when starting a new job but you'll do fine and it'll also help with you feeling down. Interaction with new people will help you no end trust me, been outta work 12 years with a problem with my neck n arm and have been down many times as it doesn't get any easier later in life but I've been doing some work experience and it's put a smile back on my face so just hang in there and things with sort themselves out might not be straight away but in the end everything will turn out ok. :D
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feeling down? here have this http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/dYtvP/insurgency
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So, I'm currently feeling a bit down.
After a year of being unemployed (graduated from university with degrees in English lang. and lit. and pedagogy) I'm about to start a new "job" that'll be very badly paid. It's not really a job. In Croatia we call it "professional training without employment". In theory it's great- you get to go to a school and watch your mentor do his classes for 30 hours and then do 10 hours of your own. And I'm talking 30+10 for the ENTIRE year. Basically, you get paid for 12 months no matter how much you're actually there, as long you make the 30+10 yearly minimum.
Now the problem is... That's only in theory, in practice no one gives a F*** about those 30+10 hours. You get to go there every day, all day and still get paid the miserly 300€.
I know, people are unemployed and would give anything to work for even that much, but wihtout even having finished highschool I used to get 700€+ comission on anything sold. And that was my summer job...
Pease, please don't think of me as being stuck up or that I believe the world or anyone in it owes me anything. I promise I don't. It's just that the 5 years I spent studying to get this seem like a waste. Waitressing pays more. I know because I got more while waitressing (no education needed). Teachers are underappreciated and under-paid. That's life. I didn't go into teaching to get rich, but teachers get cca 600€ for 20hrs a week here, and here I will be slaving as an assistent accountant (they said that to me outright) most of the time and trying to get my 30+10 hours of watching/teaching IF I manage to get permission to leave my accountant spot. My working hours will be from 8-2 and 2-8, as the school works in two shifts.
And I spent a year trying to even get this! What are my chances of ever getting a real teaching job without any connections? Basically 2%, if I'm being optimistic...
I'm seriously considering just saying "f*ck it all" and going into the private sector, where I'll have no job security but at least get to work hours I say I wanna work and actually getting paid for it.
But, no more of me complaining.
When I get like this I usually head to eBay to buy some stuff. It has to be pretty, fuzzy or shiny and serve no real function.
So, when I went there today I found this listing. Isn't it just amazing how it and the Skyrim logo are similar? xD
So telll me, what do you do when you're feeling down?
EDIT: I'm about to go to bed and I just need to say this:
Thank you so much, everyone, for your amazingly kind and supportive words. Even if my problems were much greater than this (taking into account the greater picture) silly thing actually is, seeing that amazing people like you exist out there would have made it all better.
All of you are the reason why I love this community so much.
Thank you, all <3
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