Capitalization is a waste of time
I admit that I have some trouble relating to this since I'm not female, but I think I get your point and... well, I seriously doubt you'll keep such misbehavior in check by simply enforcing rules against it and, like you said and as with many other things, the only thing that will change anything is addressing the underlying issue and initiating society to rethink. I don't believe that anyone feels harassed by a well-placed and mannered comment of appreciation, but there's a fine line between that and straight up making them feel embarrassed. Hehe, and guess what, the boyfriend of hers hitting you in the face for whistling after her acts on the same primitive level as you - you wanna do that, just don't complain about your broken nose, in the animal kingdom that's just called courtship behavior ;>. It's like with emancipation as a whole, it's come a long way, but still suffers from some people not getting it and derailing it in straight out misandry/misogyny. BTW, nice profile pic.
Let's see who gets the jokes and who does not, anyway: Thanks for the interesting and entertaining thread ;D.
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it's just like every other "wrong" behavior. you can't enforce it 100% (or else crime wouldn't exist at all) but with laws and education you can at least try to influence more people. ^^
and spreading the word helps, especially with things like this which seem harmless but they aren't.
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I guess so, I was referring more towards the way such things usually get handled. Anyway, stay safe and have a bump :>.
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Bump, cause people suck, I don't really have friends and stuff to stop from being idiots, but yeah.
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let fix our society ...
this part
"- If you don't want to get catcalled, dress appropriately!
1: Don't blame the victim.
2: I dress as I please. It's my body, not someone else's.
3: It doesn't matter if it's winter and I'm wearing a jacket, or summer with shorts and a t-shirt. Some people will be idiots anyway and say thi
that is the problem
I will talk about this more when I got home
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i'm a living being, anything else matters when it comes to expect respect from others?
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ohh respect ya we see all respect form women in public when they show they female hood to us ..
if you want respect you need to respect yourself first .
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i don't even know what you mean with that, but i know you don't care at all about the message in this thread.
go back to troll yours.
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see that is the problem you think we are the problem but female are the main problem here .
you all crying about gender equality but you want to get everything when man cant show their man hood in public it is same for female is it hard to understand ?
if your ass not shaking in public ppl don't say shit to you .
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you should run for presidency and force all women to stay indoors during summer. it's obviously morally wrong to have them running around showing their bare legs and arms.
poor men like you can't resist their animal instincts and it's all because women are bad!
we should run around with fur coats even if it's 40Β°c! π
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you want to go out naked ? wear something normal like old time something that can keep you cool without showing your body. some girls coming out with only bra and underwear I am talking about that .
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and as i said in the faq (which was obviously written for reactionary people like you):
1: Don't blame the victim.
2: I dress as I please. It's my body, not someone else's.
3: It doesn't matter if it's winter and I'm wearing a jacket, or summer with shorts and a t-shirt. Some people will be idiots anyway and say things.
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- yes blame them
- it is your body but you are in public place not your home .
- you need to know that in public you can't do what you want if female can say that don't want to see men's with underwear men can say the same thing for women's .
I am not different that men's they are stupid and don't know how to show respect . but if you want to change something you need to fix the bad female problem first then men's .
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I don't agree with how they're formulated but I agree with the deeper points:
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Don't blame the victim, except she's not, and unless the justice said so, you're not. That's disgusting to both the actual victims (you know, women who were actually raped that you are spitting on, and the many boys and girls who were abused or rape but obviously feminist like you don't care).
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NO, fuck NO. Men don't get to dress the way they want, show their dick, because that's the law, and there's NOTHING that can justify women being above the law for inequality and female privileges agendas. When men are touched, abuses or approach by women, they NEVER are victims, therefor by principle of equality I don't give a shit about it being the case for women unless court says so.
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I agree temperature or context doesn't matter, it's a matter of being dress RESPECTFULLY to other people, including parents and their kids, hard-working people who don't ask about being harrassed with half naked women. It's called public decency and respect and as mentioned above, since it's forbidden for men, then it is for women too.
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there we go we need to teach this feminist people how the rule and law work
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And on this note here's a video of a group of self-proclaimed guardians of public morals harrassing a man and a woman from vienna while swimming and threatening to rape the woman if she doesn't put her bikini top on. Note how they only adress the man. The video ends with them trying to kick the man off a cliff into the lake.
Swimming with a woman: Refugees trying to impose Sharia law in Austria
Swimming with a woman Part 2: One of the muslims trys to kick austrian off a cliff
Thank you Angela Merkel!
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What is so fucking hard to understand about women who don't want to be cat-called or harassed in the street?
Seriously, where the hell do people like you come from where common decency and respect is so hard to fathom?
It's not a woman's fault if some jackass harasses her - no matter what she's wearing, how she's walking, or whether or not she's "shaking her ass" - it's his fault, his lack of social skills, and his lack of respect for women. Stop blaming women for that shit - that's the first step.
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I don't like it and I don't do it but I see the problem if that dumb girls don't give free cookie to that kind of mens we will not see that in public just kick them in their balls if they said shit to you but don't blame all men's for it .
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you will like to see me coming out in public with only underwear ???
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It's more complicated than that. Qualifies as harassment therefor infraction only ONE single person repeatedly verbally, morally or physically acting on someone else, and NOTHING ELSE, ANYWHERE in the world in ANY eras.
Qualifies as verbal abuse or agression, only insults, discriminations and defamations, so NO compliment or cat-calling will EVER be it only qualify as harassment or verbal agression, period.
Unless you want to live in a violent chaos in which it'll be permitted to agresse, beat, rape people because of course feminist will lose the sexe war they provoked, then you should understand that no one, including women are above the laws and can abuse other will they can take-away freedom from anybody else for privilege, sensibility and preference sakes.
It's now considered illegal, or even if it's not, career ruining to show your dick as a men, therefor it IS in any case forbidden for women to show half-naked or straight-up naked for the sake of feminism, performance or activism, period, that's the law, respect it or be confronted by the majority who defend it.
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ya when they coming out topless no body say shit the law maker are with female they have more power then men and yet they are crying about it . our problem are this feminist ppl they think they have power to tell us what to do but we cant tell them what to do .
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Men can go out topless. Why should it be any different for women?
It's not a woman's fault that immature "men" get all worked up over the sight of bare breasts.
Check your Oedipus complex at the door, bud.
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you can go topless at home not in public we have kids you know ????
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Sure, because no child ever has seen a woman's bare breast.
/facepalm
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why you dont go out in street and show your tits to kids let see what thier mother will do to you
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Don't harass or cat-call people in the street. Period. It's really that simple.
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...are you really trying to say that only people who act like a 'bitch' in the street get catcalled or harassed?
Or is this just more random spouting of non-sequiturs?
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no i am saying because of bitch in street normal people get catcalled or harassed we need to fix that first then blame mens for it they give free cocky to people who have Lamborghini but they dont want to get called by a guy in Toyota that is the problem gold digger and fucking bitchs in street ... stop using same fucking clothing that bitchs use dont act like them dont hang out with them . less bitchs it mean less problem .
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A BIG nope. You didn't address the argument, or actual definitions and qualifications of harassment (of course, you're an SJW!), so unless a single person follows and consecutively call-out, ask, insults another person, there is no harassment.
As for cat-calling, fuck that, if you need a war with guts in your face not to even dare calling cat-call a problem, then I'll be somewhat glad when that happens. This is insulting to real rape, abuse and pedophilia victims.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harass
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/harassment
Pretty much all the definition and qualifications I need.
It really is simple - you don't cat-call or harass women in the street. You can scream "feminist!" and "SJW!" til you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change a thing. There's never an excuse for it.
If anything, you're the one screaming "injustice!" and playing SJW. Me? I just treat people decently on the street. There's no "SJW" about it. Allow me to reiterate - it's just common sense, decency, and basic respect for others.
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Did you even fucking read the definition? It is the act for a SINGLE person to repeatedly, persistently...pester.
Cat-calling, unless someone follows you and cat-calls you 10 times, does not qualify. Even then, justice as a more precise definition: compliments don't and will never qualify as infraction. Insults or demeaning like "hey bitch", or "you're ugly" do, but "you're beautiful/hot" or "hey madam" don't.
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you don't cat-call or harass women in the street ... it's just common sense, decency, and basic respect for others.
I meant precisely what I said. No more, no less.
harass: (2) :to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct
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good, so it's should be based off of intelligence, if you're not, then you should kill yourself or are you going to wait for us to execute it?
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I can't read your grammar. What are you trying to say? I should kill myself if I'm not intelligent? Am I going to wait for you to execute what?
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I'm saying that you argument about "eugenics" is almost always spewed by people with very low intelligence, whom according to eugenics, should kill themselves since eugenics is about eliminating dumb people.
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Well thank fuck you'll be safe with your enormous intellect. Tell Hitler eugenics is about eliminating dumb people. I was wondering why I already had you blacklisted. Turns out it's because you're a giant bellend.
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Oh so your original post about eugenics was about eliminating certain races then? I don't blacklist people, even racists like you, because I'm not a coward hiding behind bubble filters.
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My original post was about offending a righteous idiot like you. I like how your understanding of eugenics was incorrect, so I'm racist. That's good that. You really do need to study your understanding of eugenics though, your country partakes in it with the death penalty, so I mean, you're a bit silly coming on here getting all righteous about it. Eugenics is not as basic as "kill all stupid people" as you seem to originally believe. That's a stupid thing to believe.
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Giv BUMP
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I would like to apologise on behalf of men everywhere (#NotAllMen, yeah whatever).
Unfortunately the only ones who can do anything about the systematic sexism in society are also the ones most likely to be guilty of it. It's a disappointing world we live in. It's not acceptable. We can only do our best to ensure the next generation is better than the ones before.
However, capitalisation and grammar are vital. I will not accept arguments otherwise :)
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ya when mother come out with half ass naked the kids will learn to not wear that clothes right ?? or when mother is sleeping with 3 other men the kid will learn to not do it right ? people don't see the half of the thing we have this day are female problem not mens . IF !!! female don't want to sleep with other mens when she is married they will be no cheating around . they blame us all the time but they cant see that this all is connected to them not us .
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When someone cheats blame is always on both parties involved. It's not women nor men solely fault. Unless they will hide from other person they are married / have someone.
If women / men know that the other have wife / husband, then fault is divided equally between them. On person who cheated on their partner, and on person who agreed to sleep with them (when fully knowing they aren't single).
I can turn over this useless "argument" and write women won't cheat if men will stick to have sex only inside their marriages.
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"write women won't cheat if men will stick to have sex only inside their marriages." not true
my coworker was female with 2 kids she was going out with different boys every day and she was talking about it next day couple of time she send her naked pictures to me and other male coworkers she did not count this as cheating . when she found out her husband seeing other girl (she was not sure if he was cheating or not because her friend told her that she was saw him talking to that girl ) she got crazy about it and she want to get divorce . you know what happen to her ??? we get her fired form job and she lost custody of her kids because we had lot of shit on her and she did not have anything on his husband that was working 3 different job to keep his family that dude did not even have time to have fun ......
half of the female are like that......
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And what does it prove? That there is female that acted like terrible human being. Same story could be told about some man out there. And it surely don't "prove" that every single female acts like this or think like this.... Just like fact that there are men who torture animals don't mean that every man do the same, fact that women can beat up her husband don't mean all women do this, fact that kids like to throw snails into well don't mean I liked to do this when I was a kid etc.
You really like to narrow your vision to see extreme examples that will support your point (and dismiss every other point that would be against it). Unless you will try to be more open-minded and look sometimes around you - I won't be able to help you, nor have enjoyable discussion with you. As your small personal experience is not enough to talk on behalf of 7 billions humans that live on this planet right now.
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because of female that they want to open their legs to Evey boy they see we have lot of bad men too you cant see it ? if female say no how men can have sex ?? if female control her self we will not see cheating problem
why girl have computation this day to steal others BF or husband ????
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what give right to her to post this post then ?? demands shit form us ???
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look at this BS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceuwt00R48k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBhT7ncu6uI
watch both video until end
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Bump and meow.
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Why is constant SJW-posting a thing on SG now? This is a fucking gaming forum. This makes me really angry.
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Because I'm tired of getting catcalled and watching others in the street receive the same treatment, I decided to share some information with everyone in SG hoping that they can stop doing it and/or talk to their friends to make them reconsider their behavior.
Street harassment is unwanted and unwelcomed public attention, most often directed at women, which is demeaning and damaging. Itβs not a private matter but one that should concern everyone.
If you have trouble empathising with strangers, then think about your mother, sister, or girlfriend. Would you enjoy watching people catcalling and telling them nasty things? How do you think they would feel about it?
On an average day I go out twice and I get at least one guaranteed catcall. On weekends or when I go out, for example to a club, it gets worse because groups of people feel more empowered to do so.
A few months ago I was walking with a friend and one guy said things and started to follow us. After a while it ended with me turning around and pepper-spraying his face, then running away in case he could fight back. This is the kind of violence it generates.
We had a rough rest of the day and were shaken up. I didn't enjoy doing that at all, but he had to be stopped. I also like to think the guy didn't enjoy it either.
So in the end, what did he achieve? Nothing.
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OK, I'm gonna clear this up since some people like to assume things just to blame me for defending myself.
For the backward people, this was in june when I wasn't wearing "provocative shorts and t-shirts" clothes. These are the "nice compliments" I got amongst others i don't even want to repeat here and/or I want to forget:
hey girl nice butt
does your friend wanna F with me too?
hey reply bitch
come here lesbos!
GONNA EAT YOUR ASS
Walked one block with that guy which was 1 meter away from us. He wasn't shouting from the other side of the street, he wasn't half a block away, he wasn't sitting in the sidewalk. He was right behind us.
He got warned to leave us alone during the whole 1-block fast-paced walk. I didn't stop to "discuss" because I'm not a 1.9 meters 120kg guy, so I'm not putting my friend and I at risk at 8:30pm in the street.
You read the "You're not alone" thread?
Well, most of the stuff that I shared about me is linked directly to an experience related to this, but I wasn't walking with a friend and there were two guys instead of one following me. You can guess what happened next since I wasn't able to defend myself.
But of course, street harassment is harmless and nothing else can go wrong, nor it can trigger unhappy memories from past experiences.
Think a bit before judging others so quickly assuming they overreact when they feel in danger.~
I know I probably won't convince anyone catcalling to stop by posting this (it doesn't hurt to try), but if your friends or co-workers do it, you can persuade or talk to them and see if they get it. There's nothing worse than being in a group of friends and allowing them to act like idiots.
It's disgusting and demeaning, stop it. You're hurting people with your actions and makes you look like a fool.
β€οΈοΈ FAQ, in case you're gonna post one of these comments I get all the time.
- But some women like to be catcalled!
Yes, there's also men that like to get hit in the face with a hammer. So using the same logic, I should go out and hit all men with a hammer in hopes they enjoy it?
- Don't be so sensitive, ignore it.
No, it reaches a point it can't be ignored. It's not an isolated issue once per month or in certain situations so you can avoid it. It also affects me a lot depending on my mood, so when you feel like crap and you get catcalled, things get worse.
- So you want others to come to your rescue when some stranger catcalls you? That will end up with me getting in a fight!
I'm not asking people to fight for me, just them to stop doing it, spread the word, and discourage people in their group of friends from being disrespectful.
- If you don't want to get catcalled, dress appropriately!
1: Don't blame the victim.
2: I dress as I please. It's my body, not someone else's.
3: It doesn't matter if it's winter and I'm wearing a jacket, or summer with shorts and a t-shirt. Some people will be idiots anyway and say things.
- I bet you like it when a handsome guy catcalls you!
Irrelevant. I expect respect from everyone.
- What about men? They also get harassed!
I'm very aware guys also get harassed by both men and women, but this thread is about girls. Feel free to create another thread for that issue, and I will support it.
- So this is just a misandrist rant!
It's not. If you feel targeted by anything I said, then it's not because you're a man, it's because you actions ressemble what it's said here.
- Meh, it could be worse.
It could be worse, but it SHOULD be better. Also, normalizing this behavior makes it even more painful for victims.
- Women also catcall!
I never said they don't, but for each woman that catcalls me, i get 500 guys. So the issue at hand is the one I shared.
- This thread offends me!
That tells a lot about you. Log off, take your time, and think about it.
- This thread is inappropriate for SG, please close and delete it!
Go tell that to all other threads about awareness, politics, religion, sports, disasters, etc.
π Some info and articles:
Stop Street Harassment
Wikipedia definition
Documenting women's stories of street harassment
Why we need to take street harassment seriously
Dutch woman faces down her catcallers by posting selfies with them
π Videos:
Au bout de la rue (Court-mΓ©trage) - france
10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman - usa
Woman is filmed walking London's streets for secret documentary - uk
Male actor dresses as woman to experience sexual harassment - egypt
Sons React to Their Moms Getting Catcalled - usa
π And some pictures:
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