Capitalization is a waste of time
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harassment is never ok, and blaming the victim is despicable
it's not some great feat to leave people alone instead of catcalling, etc.
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Hi all. I would just like to say that, just now, I looked up the word "catcall", which this thread has taught me about (because I'm an ignorant twit who had never heard of that word, I guess), and it turns out that, besides what I more or less expected, it can also apply to any sound expressing dislike, especially from an audience. I wasn't expecting that. So this thread has just taught me something pretty interesting.
I mean, I could join the cheer in expressing how disagreeable I find street harassment to be, but it really should go without saying (even if it weren't offensive, which it is, it would also be in terrible taste; it makes me ashamed as a fellow human to see it happen), and I figured I could say something different instead. If I'm lucky, I might even contribute to the thread in some way. Or maybe not. But at least I tried. :)
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Well the way this world works... I say every woman should be granted a free can of Pepper Spray every month, and a Stun Gun.
There is no stopping the "Alpha Male" and their bullshit. So why not weaponize the potential targets? ^_^
I might come across as taking this subject lightly. But I'm not. They should make this a Taxed solution, and I'll pay my part. π
/regards: Beta Brain
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Except that is treating the symptom and not the problem. We shouldn't be telling women, "Here's how you should protect yourself, take this free stuff." Instead, we should be teaching young boys not to rape.
There is no stopping the "Alpha Male" and their bullshit.
Yes, there is. It begins with education at a young age. The "Alpha Male" you decry is also learned behavior. Change is not instantaneous.
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Even though your aim and point is true and lovely... this Utopia will never come to be... in my mind.
I have too little faith in mankind. Sad but true.
Education only goes so far. There is something truly rotten inside many people that keeps them from respecting another life. Even if common sense has been bashed into their heads since birth. π€’
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Iβm guessing youβre a glass half-empty kind of person.
Not sure where you attained your defeatist attitude, but there are countless examples across human history to prove your pessimism wrong. Donβt hang your head, Leon. Thereβs plenty more life to be lived.
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You are speaking to me like I'm at fault here.
Half empty, defeatist, pessimism, hanging head. Jezuz Doc. Is there a pill for getting off that horse?
I am who I am, because of the life I've lived. And the things I've seen. Just like everyone else.
My opinion stays.. since I made it. Feel free to disagree, but ease up the ropes a bit.
The original post was made in favor of, and to recognize women's issues, after all. Not mine.
( All of the above is written with light-hearted intent ) π
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Street harassment is not quite the same thing in England anymore ,it used to be some daft workmen shouting "Phwoar ! hello darling" ! e.t.c.
Since we've had mass emigration from various parts of the world it can actually be something very sinister and dangerous..
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Because I'm tired of getting catcalled and watching others in the street receive the same treatment, I decided to share some information with everyone in SG hoping that they can stop doing it and/or talk to their friends to make them reconsider their behavior.
Street harassment is unwanted and unwelcomed public attention, most often directed at women, which is demeaning and damaging. Itβs not a private matter but one that should concern everyone.
If you have trouble empathising with strangers, then think about your mother, sister, or girlfriend. Would you enjoy watching people catcalling and telling them nasty things? How do you think they would feel about it?
On an average day I go out twice and I get at least one guaranteed catcall. On weekends or when I go out, for example to a club, it gets worse because groups of people feel more empowered to do so.
A few months ago I was walking with a friend and one guy said things and started to follow us. After a while it ended with me turning around and pepper-spraying his face, then running away in case he could fight back. This is the kind of violence it generates.
We had a rough rest of the day and were shaken up. I didn't enjoy doing that at all, but he had to be stopped. I also like to think the guy didn't enjoy it either.
So in the end, what did he achieve? Nothing.
Edit
OK, I'm gonna clear this up since some people like to assume things just to blame me for defending myself.
For the backward people, this was in june when I wasn't wearing "provocative shorts and t-shirts" clothes. These are the "nice compliments" I got amongst others i don't even want to repeat here and/or I want to forget:
hey girl nice butt
does your friend wanna F with me too?
hey reply bitch
come here lesbos!
GONNA EAT YOUR ASS
Walked one block with that guy which was 1 meter away from us. He wasn't shouting from the other side of the street, he wasn't half a block away, he wasn't sitting in the sidewalk. He was right behind us.
He got warned to leave us alone during the whole 1-block fast-paced walk. I didn't stop to "discuss" because I'm not a 1.9 meters 120kg guy, so I'm not putting my friend and I at risk at 8:30pm in the street.
You read the "You're not alone" thread?
Well, most of the stuff that I shared about me is linked directly to an experience related to this, but I wasn't walking with a friend and there were two guys instead of one following me. You can guess what happened next since I wasn't able to defend myself.
But of course, street harassment is harmless and nothing else can go wrong, nor it can trigger unhappy memories from past experiences.
Think a bit before judging others so quickly assuming they overreact when they feel in danger.~
I know I probably won't convince anyone catcalling to stop by posting this (it doesn't hurt to try), but if your friends or co-workers do it, you can persuade or talk to them and see if they get it. There's nothing worse than being in a group of friends and allowing them to act like idiots.
It's disgusting and demeaning, stop it. You're hurting people with your actions and makes you look like a fool.
β€οΈοΈ FAQ, in case you're gonna post one of these comments I get all the time.
- But some women like to be catcalled!
Yes, there's also men that like to get hit in the face with a hammer. So using the same logic, I should go out and hit all men with a hammer in hopes they enjoy it?
- Don't be so sensitive, ignore it.
No, it reaches a point it can't be ignored. It's not an isolated issue once per month or in certain situations so you can avoid it. It also affects me a lot depending on my mood, so when you feel like crap and you get catcalled, things get worse.
- So you want others to come to your rescue when some stranger catcalls you? That will end up with me getting in a fight!
I'm not asking people to fight for me, just them to stop doing it, spread the word, and discourage people in their group of friends from being disrespectful.
- If you don't want to get catcalled, dress appropriately!
1: Don't blame the victim.
2: I dress as I please. It's my body, not someone else's.
3: It doesn't matter if it's winter and I'm wearing a jacket, or summer with shorts and a t-shirt. Some people will be idiots anyway and say things.
- I bet you like it when a handsome guy catcalls you!
Irrelevant. I expect respect from everyone.
- What about men? They also get harassed!
I'm very aware guys also get harassed by both men and women, but this thread is about girls. Feel free to create another thread for that issue, and I will support it.
- So this is just a misandrist rant!
It's not. If you feel targeted by anything I said, then it's not because you're a man, it's because you actions ressemble what it's said here.
- Meh, it could be worse.
It could be worse, but it SHOULD be better. Also, normalizing this behavior makes it even more painful for victims.
- Women also catcall!
I never said they don't, but for each woman that catcalls me, i get 500 guys. So the issue at hand is the one I shared.
- This thread offends me!
That tells a lot about you. Log off, take your time, and think about it.
- This thread is inappropriate for SG, please close and delete it!
Go tell that to all other threads about awareness, politics, religion, sports, disasters, etc.
π Some info and articles:
Stop Street Harassment
Wikipedia definition
Documenting women's stories of street harassment
Why we need to take street harassment seriously
Dutch woman faces down her catcallers by posting selfies with them
π Videos:
Au bout de la rue (Court-mΓ©trage) - france
10 Hours of Walking in NYC as a Woman - usa
Woman is filmed walking London's streets for secret documentary - uk
Male actor dresses as woman to experience sexual harassment - egypt
Sons React to Their Moms Getting Catcalled - usa
π And some pictures:
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