https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG8Yr5tkyTg :)
But I'd probably give up too, this sort of nonsense is most likely hiding 5 giveaways of bad rats... :)
Thank you! :)
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Well, it's got to be more than two, let me check...
Ok, there's the click here for free stuff giveaway, then the pity one, then the "pretty dumb puzzle" one. Which leaves three more to find, so don't give up, skeleton! :) Or give up, that works too. :)
Thank you! :)
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Aha, I'll probably write an explanation when the giveaways end, assuming anyone still cares at that point. :)
Although I might not explain where the final giveaway is hiding, since nobody's found it yet... :) I'm pretty lazy, so If I don't explain it I can use that idea again... :)
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Much appreciated since I'm more interested in solving the puzzle than the GA's anyway I think. I only know about Nioh, being one of the three that I'm missing and the other two are probably bundle trash or "Bad Rats" anyway as you keep saying :p Maybe I'll try some more later, I don't know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ or bump your thread with crappy gifs whatever is easier ^^
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It's interesting how Bad Rats looks compared to the typical New Releases on Steam garbage nowadays... At least it was an actual game, made by actual humans...
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It seems like Valve really like automating things, or passing the work on to the customers, or just saying screw it. :) Originally there was such a thing as "not good enough to be on Steam" but I guess those days are gone forever...
I assume Valve don't actually enjoy running a store filled with garbage, but all the work seems to be on algorithms to prevent us seeing the garbage, or trying to make it unprofitable to sell garbage, instead of hiring enough people to actually look at all the new game submissions and reject the garbage. I'd love to hear someone complain that their renamed Unity asset store garbage didn't get on Steam...
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If they cared one bit they could at least attempt to improve it, but card farming and adding that +1 to people's library are too profitable which means even the worst, unplayable crap sells. And Valve only cares about money. Sometimes I wonder if either Valve or EA is the greediest/worst gaming company.
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I wonder how Steam looks to "normal" people... I mean, the Greenlight / Steam Direct garbage is annoying to people who use Steam as a thing in itself, but does the person who only plays his Total War game and never touches the Steam client otherwise even notice that stuff? Maybe that's the people Valve are thinking about, not us here... Oh well...
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The mainstream doesn't notice, I didn't notice, it's only when you look closer that you see it. I've never seen Valve do anything, whatsoever, to improve Steam that wasn't related to money. To me they're the personification of greed. But that's just my opinion and everyone's allowed to have their own of course.
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Yeah, as much as I can't stand using Origin or Uplay, I kinda wish Valve had some decent competition... Like with AMD finally doing something, suddenly people don't have to choose between Intel's newest CPU and Intel's slightly older CPU... :)
If there were a legimitate alternative to the Steam store, with all the same games, at around the same price, maybe Valve would be forced to do something... :) Oh well... :)
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I've tried the puzzle category once or twice, but generally I don't want to make it too obvious. :) Some people don't have anything to say, but jump on every puzzle they can find... Let's make them work a little for it... :)
Also, there's a public giveaway running which points to this thread, so once people get here they should be able to figure out what's going on. :) I'm a big fan of reading giveaway descriptions, so if people just enter the giveaway without reading it's their loss... :)
If five people don't solve them, it's no great loss. :) My favourite puzzle giveaway only had one solver for the final part... :) But I'll feel bad if people spend several hours on this stuff and come up empty... Oh well. :)
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Well, there's a public "Level 0" giveaway running, if you like cheap garbage games. :) And the final piece of the puzzle is also "Level 0" but nobody's found it yet.
Looks like there are two "Level 1" giveaways, which you should be able to enter soon... :)
You could always try to work on the puzzle for fun, assuming it's fun that is. :) And if you reach the end you'd have a 100% chance to win the final game. :)
Thank you! :)
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maybe bumping the topic since I managed to solve that
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Came here for the pillows, stayed briefly for the puzzles, left because my brain can't handle this u_u
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Hmm, save your brain, I think it's not a difficult puzzle, but it might take more time to solve than it's worth... :)
Oh, the last part might be difficult, since nobody's found it yet - but I don't know how many people are actually working on it. :) Most people probably bailed... :)
Thank you! :)
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Is it possible that there are mistakes in the last puzzle? ...I found two, well, strange irregularities... no ideas on the solution yet, though...
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Well, it's definitely possible, since if you noticed where I said:
Today I found a few of the leftover pieces and threw this crap together. And I couldn't remember how the script worked so I did it by hand, and probably screwed the whole thing up. Oh well.
That was true. :) Doing this thing manually could have introduced an error which made the last giveaway impossible to find, but it's also possible nobody's found it because nobody's noticed whatever it is they need to notice. :) I just don't know. :)
If I'm feeling ambitious tomorrow I may try to solve it myself, but if it's broken I might not notice, and only "solve" it because I know what the answer is supposed to be... :) Oh well...
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Nevermind, I solved the last(?) one :p ...thanks for the puzzles, I really enjoyed them, and thanks for the great giveaways!
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Thank you too, and congratulations on being the only solver so far! :) Hope you enjoy Bad Rats Deluxe, or whatever that final giveaway is... :)
Pity I won't be able to reuse this idea for some other puzzle, was hoping I could be lazy and keep trying it... Oh well... :)
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oh, on the contrary, if I stay the only solver feel free to reuse it as often as you wish :)
(but I'm pretty sure there will be many more solvers soon)
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Well, I may try to reuse the idea some time, but most likely I'll forget about it... :) Or maybe have this idea lead to the wrong answer, guess I'd have to think about it more... :)
Not sure how many people are still working on it, I kinda figured everyone gave up days ago... :)
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I'm still trying. I can't believe how many hours I've wasted on this darn thing!
I'm sure I'm looking at the right part, I just haven't quite worked it out yet. :'(
I really hope you do tell us how that last part works once this is all over. :)
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I'll write something when it's finished, but I don't think it's one of those puzzles where you have to solve a bunch of complicated stuff. Mabye the people who have solved the puzzle could explain it better that I could... :)
I think for the last part you need to get an idea, or notice something, or you could be staring at those "digits of pi" forever... And don't waste too much time on it, it's just a video game... :) Good luck! :)
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Thank you so much for the explanation. I don't think I ever would have got there.
I was stuck on trying to puzzle out why you changed the ordering in the substituted characters between letter-number and number-letter. I came up with so many different eight- and five- digit alphanumerics from looking at that in different ways that I was sure that was going to be the focus of the last puzzle.
Here's my last lot of notes, but obviously none of them worked out. At one point I even wondered if you'd gone to the trouble of registering a domain name: g d a g t u n t l i . O r g :-D
letter / number at point of change of ordering
g d a g t u n t l i O r g 0
g 3 a 3 t 5 n 0 l 7 O 5 g 9
5 3 4 3 0 5 2 0 5 7 6 5 4 9
5 d 4 g 0 u 2 t 5 i 6 r 4 0
number of changed items between point of change
11 11 7 10 9 7 7 11 11 9 9 10 10
B B 7 A 9 7 7 B B 9 9 A A
53575317910
32644155022
4655104
3440736
0708967311
507932613
2470162
0456613
55658311001
74343938506
673938737
519950342
4965559724
9151993051
original pi digit at point of change
54845499469420
Pi digits between point of change
257 83 163 83 166 83 166 83 182 67 166 83 169 83 75
80 80 83 83 83 83 99 115 99 83 86 86 12
As I said before, you are very tricky!
I hope I see your next puzzle post. This was very time consuming, but fun even though I didn't win anything. Thank you so much. :)
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You know, there probably was a good reason to alternate the changed characters, but I'm not able to remember it right now. Maybe it hmm, no, I can't remember. Sorry...
You know, that's interesting, so many different things could have been the "right" thing, but I didn't do them. So I'll need to force people into trying the one thing that actually works, somehow. Guess that means more work for me, but less time wasted for everyone else... :)
Usually my brain's empty after a puzzle, so don't expect anything for a while... Sorry! :) But good luck in the next one, whenever that is... :) And thank you too! :)
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And as for the mistakes, they were actually both mine, the puzzle is correct...
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I wasn't the first one to solve it. And the giveaway still don't have 5 entries, so it will be good if you'll get there. And trust me, it's not really hard, you can do it if you try, I'm sure.
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god you and your puzles..... oh well have a bump because I can't do the pi let someone else eat it.
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I stared at the pie for a long long time over several days on the kindle. I compared it to some Apple, pumpkin, pecan, and pizza pies. I then stared at it for a day on the pc. However I find that when you stare into the pie it stares back at you.
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Hmm. I think I know what needs to be done but it's too much work D:
Or maybe i'm just overthinking it...
E: Well I found something
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Hopefully Steamgifts will let me paste this whole thing in... :)
Ok, let's start with the easy part. The pity puzzle "https://www.youtube.com/watch?pity=okgYK&v=cu1yijNTeus" - pity=okgYK should lead you to https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/okgYK/fox-hime if you've ever tried a puzzle before. So if you didn't find this giveaway, maybe READ THE PUZZLE GUIDE again. :) And good luck with the rest of this thing... :)
Anyway, here's your puzzle. Two thousand digits of pi, plus some line noise because like I said, I couldn't remember how the script worked. Oh well. :(
Here's a hint for the future: don't believe
everythinganything you read in a puzzle, especially if I wrote it. :) Let's try again:It's 1909 characters (I counted!) that look like digits of pi, but I don't know for sure. It starts out right, but I didn't memorise 2000 digits of pi. Maybe check somehow? And there are some letters mixed in, that are obviously not digits of pi. Maybe that's the "line noise"?
Oh, right, "line noise"? Assuming you're old enough to remember what that looks like from the bbs days, how does creating a puzzle by hand add line noise to your digits of pi? I mean, come on. :)
So now what? Well, you could start by getting rid of everything that looks like a digit, and seeing what's left. This will work to find the first giveaway, but (spoiler!) you'll be wanting those digits back later. But for now, it's good enough, and gives you:
goODluCkrEadIngthIshumaNsIwAsgOinGtotRolltHATPuZzLeSoLvinGScriPtbUtiaMlAzYsOscREwiTFeELFrEetOtrOlLYOurSelFTHougHITSTOOHARDD⓪Y⑦jwii???
Ok, it looks like words, but it's hard to read. So try this:
goOD luCk rEadIng thIs humaNs I wAs gOinG to tRoll tHAT PuZzLe SoLvinG ScriPt bUt i aM lAzY sO scREw iT FeEL FrEe tO trOlL YOurSelF THougH ITSTOOHARD D0Y7jwii ???
Or, with punctuation, "Good luck reading this, humans! :) I was going to troll that puzzle solving script but I am lazy so screw it. :) Feel free to troll yourself, though. :) ITSTOOHARD = D0Y7jwii :)
Which should lead you to http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/D0Y7jwii which points to the first giveaway, i.e. https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/Ca1E9/middle-earth-shadow-of-microtransactions
Cool, solved one! Only three left! :)
Now, for this next part, maybe you get the idea, and maybe you don't. It's tied up with the 112 (I counted again!) goofy mixed-case letters, somehow. If you get lucky, you might wonder if that mixed-case business is hiding a message, i.e. maybe it's encoded in base 2? Let's see what we get from:
goODluCk rEadIngt hIshumaN sIwAsgOi nGtotRol ltHATPuZ zLeSoLvi nGScriPt bUtiaMlA zYsOscRE
wiTFeELF rEetOtrO lLYOurSe lFTHougH
Or, if you want me to spell it out:
goODluCk rEadIngt hIshumaN sIwAsgOi nGtotRol ltHATPuZ zLeSoLvi
00110010 01001000 01000001 01010010 01000100 00111101 01010100
nGScriPt bUtiaMlA zYsOscRE wiTFeELF rEetOtrO lLYOurSe lFTHougH
01100010 01000101 01010011 00110111 01001001 01110010 01110001
Or, if you really want me to spell it out, try ASCII:
32 48 41 52 44 3d 54 62 45 53 37 49 72 71
2 H A R D = T b E S 7 I r q
Which should lead you to http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/TbES7Irq which gives you the second giveaway, https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/5H4sH/nioh-complete-edition-ren-wang-complete-edition
Cool, that's two solved, only two left! :) These things sure are easy when you know the answer! :)
So now let's go back to that big "digits of pi" thing. Do you remember where I said maybe check somehow? Well, if you compare 1909 real digits of pi to our "digits of pi", obviously the text message characters are wrong digits - but some of the numbers are wrong, too. What's up with that?
Oh, and while we're on the subject, what's up with 1909? Hmmm, did you want a hint for that part too, before I explain it? :) Well, 1909 is the product of two primes, 83 and 23. So maybe it's something to do with public-key cryptography? Umm, nice idea, but no. Let's worry about that part later. :)
So, we have:
3141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067
3141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067
9821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819
9821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819
64428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648g56o33O503486104543D764821339l50726024914u37
6442881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914564856692346034861045432664821339360726024914127
3C14k77r96E16a05588174881520920962829253d92I16n643678925904g001133054t54882046651h385I45s50h42u12m09
3724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609
4330572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185480744623799627495673518857527248912279381830119491
4330572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185480744623799627495673518857527248912279381830119491
29a43673362440N666430s50213I594639w12473719070A079860943702770s49217176293176752384673g18467669404O3
2983367336244065664308602139494639522473719070217986094370277053921717629317675238467481846766940513
20004i81270n526357G82778577133t757789609173636o78721468440901224953430146549585371050792279689258923
2000568127145263560827785771342757789609173637178721468440901224953430146549585371050792279689258923
542019956112129021960864034418159813629774771309960t087072113499999R73729780499o005973l83281l9963185
5420199561121290219608640344181598136297747713099605187072113499999983729780499510597317328160963185
95024459t653469H73A36T15P1308253345u850352619311880Z10100031377z875289L58752e208381420617176S691472o
9502445945534690830264252230825334468503526193118817101000313783875288658753320838142061717766914730
36L81v33i0428755468731159562863882353787593751957781857780532171226806613001927876611195909216420198
3598253490428755468731159562863882353787593751957781857780532171226806613001927876611195909216420198
n280952572010654G48632788659S715338182c068230301952035r118529689i67736225994P2891240t217752834791314
9380952572010654858632788659361533818279682303019520353018529689957736225994138912497217752834791315
b55748572425U415069596t829533116861726i558890751a83817546373M493931925506040092770167113900984882401
1557485724245415069595082953311686172785588907509838175463746493931925506040092770167113900984882401
2858361603563707660104710181942955596198946767837l594482553797747A58z61Y50s85O364620s14668c159069491
2858361603563707660104710181942955596198946767837449448255379774726847104047534646208046684259069491
R033136770289E01521047521w1056967i240580381501934T13F34e23E09L558763F24748r473263915E992726042690e27
2933136770289891521047521620569660240580381501935112533824300355876402474964732639141992726042699227
967823546t1636009341721641219924586315030286182974555706749838505494588586926995690927210797509302O6
9678235478163600934172164121992458631503028618297455570674983850549458858692699569092721079750930295
5321165344t772r37559602364O966l39911988183L897753Y763698074265O35278625518u7417575r72890977771S939e0
5321165344987202755960236480665499119881834797753566369807426542527862551818417574672890977772793800
0816470609l615F24919217320T214773H501414419734o85481613612u73525521334757418494684385233239073941433
0816470600161452491921732172147723501414419735685481613611573525521334757418494684385233239073941433
34547762416862518983569485562099219222184272550254g46H97T617904O56016534668O598H52723279178A985784R7
3454776241686251898356948556209921922218427255025425688767179049460165346680498862723279178608578438
38279679766D24541009538D4786360959⓪81Y65⑦251251j51173929849w609i12848862693i604240?652850222105?118
382796797668145410095388378636095068006422512520511739298489608412848862694560424196528502221066118
63067441?8
6306744278
As you can see, compared to the real digits of pi, some of our "digits of pi" are +1, and some are -1. Hopefully the previous part of the puzzle, with 112 mixed-case characters hiding a message in base 2, will give you the idea. With 128 (I counted again!) wrong digits, calling every "+1" a 1, and every "-1" a 0, we get:
01010100 01001111 01001111 01001000 01000001 01010010 01000100 00111101
01101010 01101011 01011000 01101010 01110101 01010101 01100011 01101100
And if you got this far, you know ASCII when you see it:
54 4f 4f 48 41 52 44 3d 6a 6b 58 6a 75 55 63 6c
T O O H A R D = j k X j u U c l
http://www.itstoohard.com/puzzle/jkXjuUcl gives you https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/5Z5FJ/ken-folletts-the-pillars-of-the-earth - cool, only one left! Almost finished! :)
Oh, by the way, this final itstoohard thing contained an actual hint! :)
Sorry, there's no hint. Instead, here's a pity jpeg for anyone who waited a whole day for nothing. :) And the picture https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/images_blogs/wiredscience/2013/10/new_panels.jpg :)
A bit of googling should lead you to the source of that image, i.e. https://www.wired.com/2013/11/arecibo-50th-anniversary/ - it seems to be a picture from the Arecibo radio telescope, in 1974. Hmm, is that a hint? Spoiler: yes! :)
Now, you might get lucky and stumble across something called the "Arecibo message", and you might not. If you do, and you noticed previously the "2000 digits of pi" were actually 1909 characters, maybe the reason for 83 * 23 = 1909 makes sense now.
But here's something funny - none of the three solvers needed that hint. Here are their explanations, which probably make more sense than mine:
nickchanger: I counted the spaces and the same numbers repeated all the time but they didn't make sense as a cipher so I realized it will be a picture :p
Ryzhehvost: After making a file - it still made no sense to me, but I noticed that some markings go one after another, and some other have space between them... it looked like pattern, so I decided I need to check it. Find&Replace marked places as @@, unmarked as spaces, copy&paste to notepad, change window width... bingo!
nhahtdh: I'm not surprised that you can encode all those GA into the puzzle, and I know that the last piece of information lies in the position of the differences, but only thought of turning it into an image recently.
So don't feel bad, I never would have solved this part, either. :)
Here's the idea: compare the real digits of pi to our "digits of pi", call each correct digit 0, and each incorrect digit 1. But this time it's not a message in base 2, it's a bunch of hmm, monochrome pixels, in an 83*23 rectangle. Maybe having 1909 characters helps with that idea, or maybe you just resize your text editor until the message appears by magic. :) Assuming Steamgifts doesn't screw it up, let's see how it goes:
...................................................................................
...................................................................................
...................................................................................
.......@@.@@.@@...........@@........@@..........@@..@@.@@.@@.@@.@@.................
.......@@.@@.@@...........@@........@@..........@@..@@.@@.@@.@@.@@.................
...................................................................................
....@@..........@@.....@@....@@.....@@..........@@..............@@.................
....@@..........@@.....@@....@@.....@@..........@@..............@@.................
...................................................................................
....@@..............@@..........@@.....@@....@@..............@@.....@@.@@.@@.@@....
....@@..............@@..........@@.....@@....@@..............@@.....@@.@@.@@.@@....
...................................................................................
....@@..............@@..........@@........@@..............@@........@@..........@@.
....@@..............@@..........@@........@@..............@@........@@..........@@.
...................................................................................
....@@..............@@.@@.@@.@@.@@.....@@....@@........@@...........@@..........@@.
....@@..............@@.@@.@@.@@.@@.....@@....@@........@@...........@@..........@@.
...................................................................................
....@@..........@@..@@..........@@..@@..........@@.....@@...........@@..........@@.
....@@..........@@..@@..........@@..@@..........@@.....@@...........@@..........@@.
...................................................................................
.......@@.@@.@@.....@@..........@@..@@..........@@.....@@...........@@..........@@.
.......@@.@@.@@.....@@..........@@..@@..........@@.....@@...........@@..........@@.
Or, if you prefer:
.@@@....@...@...@.@@@@@......
@...@..@.@..@...@.....@......
@.....@...@..@.@.....@..@@@@.
@.....@...@...@.....@...@...@
@.....@@@@@..@.@...@....@...@
@...@.@...@.@...@..@....@...@
.@@@..@...@.@...@..@....@...@
Which is pretty hard to read, now that I look at it on here. Hopefully it isn't quite so painful in your text editor/whatever. :) Anyway, let's assume you can squint and make out the characters "CAX7n". :)
So that's the final giveaway, https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/CAX7n/little-busters-english-edition :) Thank you to everyone, and congratulations to the winners! :)
Original Message:
I suppose cartoon fans can guess what's hiding in here. And yes, I know it's not the same thing, so you don't have to tell me. :)
For people who hate reading, or puzzles, or anything that comes between you and your profitz: click here for free stuff!
Pity "puzzle" hiding in the youtube video: have pity! And if that video's blocked, try this one: have pity!
And, hmm, well, I was going to make a puzzle last year but it got boring so I bailed. Sorry.
If you like, imagine I kept working on that puzzle for months, piling it full of loot, just for you. Spoiler: nope.
Today I found a few of the leftover pieces and threw this crap together. And I couldn't remember how the script worked so I did it by hand, and probably screwed the whole thing up. Oh well.
For of all sad words of tongue or pen, The saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Anyway, here's your puzzle. Two thousand digits of pi, plus some line noise because like I said, I couldn't remember how the script worked. Oh well. :(
3141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067
9821480865132823066470938446095505822317253594081284811174502841027019385211055596446229489549303819
64428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648g56o33O503486104543D764821339l50726024914u37
3C14k77r96E16a05588174881520920962829253d92I16n643678925904g001133054t54882046651h385I45s50h42u12m09
4330572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185480744623799627495673518857527248912279381830119491
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