Well said Fyantastic!
Powerful story verified about the suicide in aftermath thread...
Wow! Hope this open letter gets into everyone's hearts.
Empathy, positive and kind words, and forgiveness yields a truly peaceful, constructive and thriving community.
Can SG make a concentrated effort and turn around? This letter is a step in the right direction.
Thank you!
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Fyan this is just what this community needed right now... it's painful to see how some users receive so much hate, criticism or just plain negativity!
Steamgifts is supposed to be about SHARING! Not just videogames but good vibes, caring and grateful words, jokes and smiles! It can still be like that, it's on us as a community to make it like that.
I thank you for taking the time to write such a useful and heart warming thread, keep being Fyantastic :]
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Thank you so much for putting this important topic into words. Joe Cocker - You are so beautiful
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Emotionally you're right of course Fyantastic no denying that but realistically you should know after 3 years on SG that in the SG world there are many good and nice people but there are a few, mostly the same, who have no empathy whatsoever and no positivity and who's sole purpose on SG is to spread vinegar, acid and negativity and to troll and bully other users and their threads just because they love doing so and because they think that their way and opinions are the only good ones on SG, because they are trash in the real world and who think that with their double standards, sceaming and compulsive lies they can poor salt in SG users their eyes and SG support is helping those indirectly because they are unwilling to do something about this and so this boil will only fester more and more without being lanced.
What you say is really true, and I admire you that you have the proverbial stones to do so in writing but the reality on SG is something else with more and more users that are driven away from SG by those few rotten apples.
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It's like this, I used to be that person. I'm not even being dramatic. I used to be that person with no empathy that would spread acid and negativity, to troll and be a bully. I used to be a very hateful human being.
One of the main reasons I finally turned it around was through the incredible patience and love that few of my teachers had shown me. I was literally at a point in my life, where no school system would let me study with them because of how bad my record was. There was only one private school in the area that would let me in. I had literally assaulted one of my teachers at a previous school to the point where they kicked me out and I wasn't welcomed back, so the fact they let me in still astounds me.
I say all this to point out that no matter where a person is in life at this particular moment, there is always time and room to turn around. I could go into a book long story of my life and you would be amazed how I acted and treated people.
Never give up hope for anyone. There is not one Lost Soul!
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Sharing is caring. And happiness is only real when shared.
I told my co-worker this recently! I mean't to tell you before, but I forgot. :)
I was trying to take one of his cookies, but nonetheless it was shared :P
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Is it bad that I ended up being contacted over steam to weigh in on the drama that has happened here recently?
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That's the real fucking issue there though - people are blowing everything out of proportion. It wouldn't be bad if everyone would just let these kind of things die rather than spreading it like wildfire.
I won't go on a rant since this is a positive thread, but yeah. I just wish everyone would chill out since a lot of people seem a bit tense these days. ^^
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jbond does get it and I think honestly it needs a rant, or just for it to be at least put in perspective.
I would honestly have to recommend that the offended parties in question to shut up and go to bed. Not because they are acting childish but the fact is it would be better to go and relax, think about the issue and return with a level head. From what I've read it quite literally is someone has had something eating at them outside of Steamgifts that has upset them severely and when they came to this site they were already in an upset/angry mood and it caused them to literally explode. If it wasn't on Steamgifts it would have been something else I guarantee you.
The next part is knowing when to pick and choose your fights. If something doesn't seem worth fighting over then it most definitely isn't. The issues I have seen I hate to say have been rather childish and I am sad to say, yes there should have been a thicker skin. Sure get annoyed but get over it, you are entitled but if you start getting upset/annoyed over every little thing then you start to look a bit like an ass and a bit of a whiny bitch. On top of this if you start pouring out your issues be very careful, it often looks like you are just gouging out for sympathy and that doesn't really work a lot of the time especially since the rule of thumb is no matter how bad you've got it, someone always has it worse! I could get bogged down here about some really nasty stuff I've seen happen to other people which put a lot of issues others have had in perspective but I want to go onto my next point.
Stop using the internet and technology to pour every single little one of your problems into the public domain. Ever hear of the phrase “There is a time and place for everything?” Well this certainly wasn't the place nor the time. Keep in mind opinions are like asses, everyone is got one and they are all different. That's a result of people being brought up in different cultures, environments and taking different approaches to everyday issues. Different people think differently and the more people you approach the far more likely you are going to hear something you don't want to listen to. If you do need to talk to about an issue make sure you ask someone appropriate. Key word here is “someone” not something. I will go back to the first line of this paragraph about technology, people are too reliant on it these days as an answer to everything when in reality you need to step away from it to solve certain issues, especially since when reading chat a lot can get lost in translation. Not all help you need is in front of a computer/tablet/phone etc.
That is what I felt needed to be said.
tl;dr major point you need to at least take: If you are feeling upset or angry, go to bed and relax. Come back to the issue in the morning and see if it has cleared your head. Might turn out the issue may not be worth fussing over at all.
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"if you are feeling upset or angry, go to bed and relaxd" that what \we had been try to do yesterday, but it really hard when one side clearly have no intend to back down
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As long as you yourself are not deliberately trying to antagonise a situation further then that is what matters. Honestly I feel like I've become a father overnight telling kids to go to their bed. Next I'll be sending them to their rooms and getting drunk watching the football.
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I like to have the right to HATE. I hate to beign denied the ability to openly DISLIKE something.
That being said, I love you guys.
PS: The kid was gonna kill himself anyway. The posts in that thread are soft and the replies had no weight in the outcome of his choices.
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I think that openly sharing your dislikes for something is fine. Hate though, as they say; hate is a strong word. It's the complete opposite of love, a word considered to be one of the strongest known to mankind (that's up to debate though). I don't think that hate should be something that people actively "share" online or offline. Hate is mindless loathe for an action, an object or even a person, without allowing any form of discussion or argument.
In your case though, your hate for being denied the right to dislike is justifiable. I just felt like sharing my thoughts about "hate".
With that said, I dislike mashed potatoes. I love mashed apples though, and I love you.
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Please, Rice give me cake, ton of different noodle, snack, diet drink, as well as wine,,,,,potato should follow suit rice
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yes.... because in here, if not count chinese style noodle make from wheat, and Cellophane noodles can make from rice or green bean/potato stach .Every other tradition vietnamese noodle is make from rice, with ton of different of kind for different dish and region
Stuff like Spaghetti or Udon only available and common recently, the number of noodle make from rice we have is more than the one make from wheat or potato
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according to wikipedia(yeah I know...) those cellophane noodles are not made from rice but from beans or POTATO (so even if partially true, potatoes over rice rotfl, both statistics of consumption can prove me wrong easily maybe), there is also possibility I understood your phrase in a wrong way due to my lack of understanding or punctuation confusion. Any ways, potatoes rule the world! (at least on sg).
And dont get me wrong, currently Im residing in JP, so rice is big part of my diet, and damn, compared to my home country, potatoes are crazy expensive here. Still vodka and french fries valued higher than nihonshu and mochi :D (for me ofc)
our discussion went sideways from original, but I'm learning new things, so I guess jBond
edit: will not mind hahha
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What confuses me is that some people really believe SG forums to be a happy safe place. It's not. It's a public place with all sorts of people whose opinion might differ, whose attitude you might not like, who may be harsh and abrasive and who might say something that you might find offensive. They might dislike and hate you, and tell you to go fuck yourself, it is unavoidable. Don't set your expectations too high and you won't be disappointed.
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True words. Sadly, no place is all love and sugar and kittens all over. Every orchard have their share of rotten apples.
All you can do is make sure you aren't one of these rotten apples. :P
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I think we should make all users annoymous, allow for webm hosting, embbed youtube, and name a board /b/ for a day.
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like internet ?.... oh wait, THIS IS INTERNET,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, honestly, what did people expect really ?
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Good afternoon everyone! Well, it's afternoon here anyways! :)
I've popped in and out over the past few months and I've noticed an overall negativity surrounding the forums when I visited. I wanted to share a few thoughts with you all in hopes that it will help us treat one another better and hopefully, with more love and kindness. The one thing we all have in common is our mutual love of this great website and we have the ability to either keep building on the positive environment we have here or to let it turn into something toxic.
Show Empathy - I think first and foremost, we all need to remember and keep in the back of our minds that this is a forum on the internet. With that said, there will be people from all backgrounds, ages, colors and in all different places in life. What you say on here could have either a positive or a negative effect on their life. So, show the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. We've already lost one great member in Rachel let's try not to lose anymore over petty arguments and disagreements that we can easily settle without letting it get completely out of hand. Keep in mind, if someone is saying or behaving in a hurtful way, that could be a sign of something deeper going on in their life and what they could need right now is to be shown a little love and patience. :)
Spread Positivity - With the aforementioned, let me encourage you to choose the option to spread positivity. Not only here in the forums, but take that into your everyday life. I'll be completely blunt with you, when we leave this world, the only thing we will leave behind is the memories others will have of us. Life is entirely too short and precious to argue over things that could have been easily prevented if we had shown each other a little empathy from the start. If someone has offended you in some way, the best way to counter that is by being the bigger person, showing empathy and trying to somehow bring a smile to their face. Fight negativity by showing them positivity, instead of sinking to their level. Nothing will show negative people more satisfaction than letting them know you let them get under your skin. Set an example for others to follow. :)
Learn to Forgive If someone has offended you here or shown you something less than a positive attitude, let me encourage you to show the forgiveness that both you and them deserve. I have been wronged many times in my life, and holding on to the hurt, anger and resentment 9 times out of 10 does nothing, but bring me down. While the person who did the hurting has most likely moved on with life. Don't that let that one small moment bring the rest of your day down, or in contrast, your week or month.
If you feel like you're words aren't important or will have no impact on another person's life, no matter how great or small, I will remind you that a member here committed suicide after making this thread, aftermath here. We need to be reminded of this, because I have seen some serious hate in the forums these past few months.
With that said, I will remind you, that this IS the internet were talking about and there will be sarcasm and trolls and really hateful people here. By the very definition. It's the internet. How YOU respond, will determine the outcome. :)
If you could only sense how important you are to the lives of those you meet; how important you can be to the people you may never even dream of. There is something of yourself that you leave at every meeting with another person. - Mr. Rogers
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