A 12 year old boy recently killed himself after being bullied constantly at school. It's sad and more common than people may think. Kids/teens/adults all alike commit suicide daily worldwide. I may get hate for this and that is fine because it needs to be talked about. I am making this thread to ask you all to just sit down with someone you care about and discuss bullying with them, it can be your child, sibling, a friend, whoever you want. Just take the time to see if not only they are okay but if they know anyone struggling. Come up with ways to help, if you see a coworker being harassed stand up for them, if a friend is being abused by a family member or significant other help them. Please don't just look away. For someone out there you may be their only hope. If you yourself are in a bad situation please seek help. Don't let it go to far. Bullying can be deadly in more ways than one. Thank you for anyone who reads this. Stay safe.

Update!
Depression and self harm has had a huge toll on my life since I was 8 years old. I know that was a young age to start feeling so hopeless but I didn't exactly have a "normal" childhood.. Over the years I have found many songs that express my feelings, thoughts, overall how depression effects me. These songs have always been my emotional outlet. If you want please listen to a few WARNING These songs are about depression and suicide
Her last words
Breathe Me
Baby don't cut
Stolen innocence
Scars

My giveaways:

My ended giveaways:

Dinocide
Grappledrome
The Last Federation
LOR - League of Runners
Box Maze
80 Days
Her Story
Memoria
Skullgirls
Robot Roller-Derby Disco Dodgeball

Donated Giveaways:

Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation
Maize

Ended Donations:

Reflection Of Mine
Brothers - A Tale of Two Sons
TIMEframe
HOUND
Ultimate Solid
Construct: Escape the System
Day of the Tentacle Remastered
Jurassic Survival
AXYOS
Sword 'N' Board
Robot Roller-Derby Disco Dodgeball
Headlander
Volgarr the Viking
A story about my uncle
Undertale
Grind Zones
Party Hard
Super Mega Baseball Extra Innings
Ratz Instagib
$1 Ride
Ampersand
Abzu
Windward
Grim Fandango Remastered
UnEpic
A story about my uncle
Ratz Instagib
Kromaia
Epic Battle Fantasy 4
Tropico 5
An Alien with a magnet
Road to Ballhalla
Hacknet
Skullgirls
Lethal League
Dustforce DX
Arkshot

I will try to respond to comments when I have free time, please don't be offended by my delay.

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I've only experienced it in primary school and eventually I switched sides once (and though that's nearly 30 years ago, I'm still feeling ashamed for it). I would like to do it unhappen, but on the other side it opened my eyes: even the bully isn't feeling better afterwards (at least as long as they're mentally okay), it disguises the real issues of the bully and therefore it's just nonsense. So stand up against them or intervene it, if you're noticing it against others.

Thank you for the awareness, vampkitty!

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Just shows how bad society is in general. Every generation seems to be getting exponentially worse, since they are coming from parents who are in many cases either damaged themselves, and from dysfunctional families, or the parents cannot be around their kids if they are good parents, since it's not possible here anymore to support a family with one regular job, like it was 20 or 30 years ago. There is a cycle of abuse though, and a lot of parents these days actually are condoning negative punishment and abuse of their children, laughing about how their own parents would beat them, etc. This is craziness... Just shows why their kids are warped today, and so forth. Many times they just do not have a nurturing figure at all in life, or something like schooling and peers is the closest thing to that, which is a lot different than it was a long time ago. Part genetics, and part psychology, and part environmental, and probably other factors of each of those all contributing to a more nasty society in general. Something as subtle as a bad diet, or fluoride in the water/toothpaste/foods could do a lot more damage than the average person might be aware of. Anyway, as long as there is not proper raising (this is "the heart" of the problem, I believe), schooling and education, and teachers that give a damn, there will not be happy or safe schools, at least in my country in the places I went to school in.

  • As long as society points fingers at victims (and by victims, anyone who is hurt or hurts others) and says, "How could this person do this?", they are missing the point. We should be saying instead, "How did we, as a society, fail this person?". "Why are we all failing each of these people, and why do we continue to fail?"

I had social problems that made me seem different. These differences made most kids attack me in the schools I went to. I had to stop going eventually, and got expelled. The problem with school is that you are forced to go. You have no choice really. Either go to school until a certain age, or you get put in Juvenile Detention. I did not want to go to jail even though I was constantly afraid and worried about what could happen to me at school every day. Since I had access to weapons and knew how to make explosives, I contemplated taking out a bunch of people a few times, but somehow I kept it together long enough to get out of there before it got to that point. I developed post-traumatic stress disorder and some pararnoia and I have general anxiety disorder from going through years of torment. Telling would open me up to more bullying, and most teachers don't care anyway. They let the kids run the schools. Check out most any classroom in America, and you'll see this happening. Teachers are unqualified and underpaid here. I had maybe two or three out of however many I was around up until College that really seemed to care about other people in any way.

I was harassed by a few teachers, since I had strange hair, and since I had piercings, and wore lots of black, and leather. The rich "preppy" kids never got in trouble either if they started stuff. It was always kids that did not dress properly that did everything wrong and got in trouble. Unfortunately the world didn't change much after that. It's still based on appearances, which mean almost nothing to the more spiritually discerning eye. After my expulsion from public school, I went to an alternative school and had a much better time, since the school was smaller. I was able to graduate early.
Since the beginning, most of my learning was done outside of school - school wasted many years of my life, since I studied much faster on my own subjects freelance. I could finish an entire school year in about a month. I don't know what the point was... structured learning only held me back from reaching my goals intellectually. We would review the same shit for an entire month! After a month, we're still on the same chapter, and I already finished the entire book for that school year! I don't think any of the grades I was in ever finished an entire book in the school year. The same ones I completely soaked up in about a month's time. Give me the final exams, and let me move on! If I had been worked with properly, I probably could have finished College by around 14. Again, just a gigantic waste of time, money, and talent, and I have a feeling I am not the only one.

There are many warning signs in every person gone wrong that are ignored, and ignored and ignored. People that fall through the cracks... over and over. It happens today with the weak victims of society as they become older as well when they have mental disorders, or illnesses of other types. Poor and sick are bullied by richer (or those making rules in the interest of only the richer), and treated like crap here, and many times it's through problems not of their own making. The cruelty is covert, subversive and hidden, and one doesn't realize how bad it really is at the bottom without experience. It takes money to make money here. That's one very sinister aspect of it in the US today. People not on the lower system are oblivious as to how badly those making the laws are allowed to treat people - and get away with it. How much stress they put them under - how difficult it is to get any help, to try to work your way out and up, and in many areas the complete lack of resources available for those that are trying to get going.

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Just the same old story: It may seem off the topic of bullying, but I get the same cycle of abuse and bullying that I got in schools in all sorts of ways here. It's different, but it has a lot of similarities. Care and compassion? Not sure where it went. I see a lot of religious buildings that are supposed to be teaching that sort of thing, and they sure don't mind raking in a bunch of tax-free money, but all I see around me is hypocrisy. Lots of people go in, but where is the practical application? I'm not necessarily downing the importance of such institutions, and on the contrary, I respect the innermost principles in many different religions I've had the opportunity to study off and on in life, but instead of spending that hour or two in the building sitting and listening, why not go out in your neighborhoods and actually accomplish something good for your community? Instead... it's just instructions, take this little bit here, leave this bit out where it is convenient... and at the end of the day, you have control. Sure, these places sometimes have food pantries open, but there's enough money going in these areas to easily give a home, food and all the basics at the very minimum, to every sick and suffering person in my country... probably five times over at least. I'd probably bank on closer to five.. hundred times more, if I were to guess. I cannot even imagine how many times over that it would actually amount to, given exact figures, but it has to be pretty high. There are more empty homes than homeless people here in America, and being homeless is now being considered a crime itself in more and more places. It's shocking to see how far it is going, and how morally and ethically out of control it really has become here. I am ashamed I live in a country this dysfunctional, but where else am I going to go with no money? Clearly my country is failing.

The real leechers of my country are the rich that don't give 1% of their money for a damn thing. If money were going out for investment, obviously it would create more circulation, more jobs, and more programs and opportunities that could help more sick and suffering. Instead it is dried up, falling apart, and stagnant... tied up in bank accounts collecting lots of dust. Meanwhile, the people in this country are sick and dying, and the US doesn't even care... the old, "Not my problem." thing. Everyone is out only for themselves. Plenty of taking, and not too much giving. I also hear all this silly "patriotism" crap too. Well, if it's about fighting for your country... think about that sentence for a second. War isn't over that ocean there... Wake up! War isn't over there. Don't you care about your country? Take a look around. War is in your neighborhoods, in your streets, your community. That's your main problem. That's where the priority needs to be. If your priority was that, and the other country's priority was the same in their own area... for once in human history, maybe we'd be onto something! Fix that, and then you work outwards. If you don't fix the insides, you'll never be able to help anything outside of that. I don't understand what's so hard to understand with that, but most people either don't want to face the truth and/or brush it under the rug, or they don't realize, or they have been desensitized, brainwashed, and just don't care anymore, or are products of narcissistic/psychopathic upbringing that has been passed on. People are programmed to ignore, and not see. Most bullying comes from these exact same types of uncaring roots, or patterns of abuse in their homes. PsychOps started in Vietnam (maybe earlier), and it's been almost perfected since the 90's rolled in. It has become an art form used on many canvases to pacify the masses so they stop thinking for themselves, and they become mindless husks, drones of the machine. Can't see anything outside that tiny bubble they call life anymore, because they are now enslaved to it. Debt is your master here, and your bosses get richer off of you in a pyramid scheme that's legalized, if you are lucky enough to be picked for one of those spots as a beast of burden. You have arrived! Welcome to the good life!

I felt it too long to reread it, but hopefully it is in a reasonably presentable format. My thinking is a bit loopy.

tl;dr Society is falling apart, and it gets exponentially worse in all facets of life.
School only taught me one thing: School taught me how to hate.

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The whole problem is there should not have to be a decision to abuse or be abused by others. I think there are many ways this could potentially be circumvented. It almost cost me or others their lives... I did attempt suicide for various reasons when I was much younger, and I acted out, turned to drugs to numb the constant trauma and pain, and cut on myself. Other ways I acted out, but in every case, whether the bully or those being bullied, the person is sick at the core. There are underlying issues that need to be addressed so these people are helped, and do not become bullies later in life, causing even more chaos in an already out of control system...

I know what you mean though. At the time of being attacked, you have only those two choices, really. If nobody intervenes and helps those that are calling out for help in these kinds of ways, then nothing can change, and the poison just keeps getting dumped on more and more people until most of the world is toxic as a result.

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Superfabs, one question: GLP or LunOut?

And you're completely right about a lot of that. I don't believe parents don't care anymore, I believe they lack the free time they once had. As you said, it's no longer possible for a family to survive (or even thrive) on a single parent income.

You're also right about the educational system. I too was finishing all my textbook work in the first month of the school year.
But no one could understand that I was bored out of my mind in a system that holds you back and doesn't give you a chance to advance.

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I'm not sure where you live or how much you make but that must be nice.
In my area working a $10 / hr job, Rent is 50% of the wages, insurance is about 25%, Rest would go to food, electric and gas.
You might barely make enough to survive on, but it's not enough to live on.

I also don't believe in debt. I will never have a credit card, nor do I want one.

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I am not too sure what GLP or LunOut mean, so you would have to explain.

I think also school may have turned out a completely different experience for me if more of the high functioning and asperger's were known. I wasn't able to communicate how much more help I needed in some areas, but that is kind of the nature of my issues early on. At those times, the stereotype was that autism was just the most extreme cases, and nobody really picked up on it in my situation - having a lot of intellect makes it easy to cover much of it, and mimic behaviors of others around you, since one wants to stand out as little as possible, being a potential target to ridicule. Maybe... if better life subjects were taught in schools, people would live better lives too. There was really none of that at all when I was going. I mean, if parents cannot really spend a lot of time in some cases, that may be their only way of learning much in regards to their views on the world and people around them in it. Maybe values being instilled in people as they went to school could really improve things at some levels. It won't fix the problem if kids are damaged due to other genetic or psychological things being passed down, but it might prove helpful in some situations. More awareness and counseling could be helpful too if children are suffering - mainly those who are bullying. It is the genesis of the problem, if the issue is abuse and then those who are abused feeling bad about themselves as a result and lashing out in other ways, whether it's internalized, or becoming bullies themselves. That is the sign of a problem they are having, or there would not be a need to lash out at others (usually in the form of levelling, since they feel bad about themselves as well). It almost reminds me of incarceration, the way I was being forced to go, and then constantly having to be on guard against potential attacks. I developed a habit of always looking over my shoulder, just in case somebody was trying to sneak up on me, like a prey animal would do.

Everything was very cookie-cutter in school, while there are so many ways different people learn. Many different paces, and many styles and ways it could be made more fun. USA education system is really pretty bad across the board. Comparisons to other countries show it in aptitude and test scores on important subjects. Also, not making it exciting and enjoyable makes learning a chore, which is bad. Once I gave up on studying subjects I was part of in school due to hating the pacing, the homework, attitudes of the teachers, and projects, etc... I sort of just crammed as a ritual before tests, and then since I had crammed only for the testing, I would forget about all that stuff soon after. It is just a terrible model for trying to retain any info here the way it was set up. If I'm not enjoying what I am doing, then it's not going to be something that's going to stick. Like anything in life, you're probably going to hang onto things you've got a passion for learning about much more than something uninteresting. More real life oriented stuff would have been pretty good as well... I think I took several elective courses on economics and cooking and stuff like that. Nothing about just day to day life though, or treating others properly, which is kind of sad. Just vague "contracts" or sayings or things like that, which nobody hardly cared about. I think that is one of the most important areas for growth in the areas I'm living in. If there were more integrity and honesty, people could at least have a little more trust and respect - my theory anyway. That is the foundation of any solid and real relationships of any kind. I just felt like another number; I was being groomed and brainwashed for some kind of "follow the leader" game, and it got a lot worse later on when I started really thinking about it introspectively.

Getting sick as time went on also... that's what reflects my viewpoints with the care for those who cannot work after the mandatory schooling here. In a natural sense, people want to support themselves, and want to try and prosper somehow, or at the very least, hopefully make ends meet, and rise up a little over time. It would be an illness in and of itself not to really want that. People should be motivated to succeed, I think.
Whenever I go to these social services centers in my area, most people in them are disabled in some kind of way. It's not a bunch of people freeloading off the government because they decided that's what they wanted to be when they grew up. The amount of money one gets each month is not enough to even cover the cost of a car payment each month... not factoring in the car insurance (though they have a medicaid dollar a day program here). And if you try to save up for anything... they count it against you if you meet a certain amount, considering it assets.

Still yeah, most people make more money per day than they give for assistance over the course of a month, and one has to fight tooth and nail just to get that! This area has a work first program too, so it's not free money for nothing in most cases (I have a disability that has allowed me a medical pardon due to the nature of my illnesses, however they're even cracking down on these, even though I have 8 or 10 that would each qualify me for SSI here on their own). I'm working on getting that instead, but it's just kind of "more of the same", once they factor in the cost of living and your expenses, or lack of, etc. Somebody still has to support you even when you move up to that level. I'd have almost nothing at all if I didn't have friends and family helping me out, which makes me sad to have to be seemingly a burden on them at all. Sorry for the long ranting again... It's a subject that I really have a lot of interest in... Wish there were more I could do productively here...

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Thank you to all who are so understanding, helpful and concerned.
There should be many more people who react like that.

If only I had found you years ago ...

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Bullying was never cool guys, don't do it! I've never noticed it when I was in school but since everyone says it's common I guess either I'm dense or it wasn't as bad at my school or a mix of both. Stand up for yourself!

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That make's me so sad :( That man could of had a beautiful future ahead of him. I hate this world sometimes but I know I have to stay positive..

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For peace, my master! 07XMW-9KWPE-QPRB6

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Someone got it, guess they didn't say thanks or will later but in case not I thank you for them lol

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Well you know I thank you even if I didn't get to steal it lol :P

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