This slimy git just tried to scam me over the phone, and I thought I would mention this type of scam in case any of you haven't heard of it. Not since the "piece of paper on the windshield" scam has there been one so effective in catching people unaware. Here is how it works:

  1. You get a phone call (could be Skype, could be a recorded line) for XYZ. The company calling you is not important.
  2. If you "press" them for specific information about themselves or their company, they will avoid answering. They are liars.
  3. They ask you a series of questions. The questions are unimportant. What they seek from you is your information.

What They Are Doing

These people are trying to mine you for personal information.

  • Your address
  • Your birth date
  • Your phone number
  • Your credit card number
  • Any other information which may be used to "identify" them as you.

Even if they don't get any of the above information, there is one more thing they can use: the word "Yes."

Purportedly, these slimeballs record you saying, "Yes," and then use that recording to emulate your approval and/or acceptance in other situations. Whether it be shopping, or taking out a line of credit, or some other kind of transaction, they can pretend to be you using your voiced responses. This is why you never want to say, "Yes" over the phone unless you know the person to whom you are speaking. (See Dingbat's post for details.)

The world is full of scam artists. Be careful, and pay attention to what is going on around you.

P.S.(As a reminder, never get out of your car to remove something from your window without first taking your keys with you.)

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Oh wow, this is really low using my 'yes' for their purposes. Good thing I never looked at my phone, I always forget where I placed it, and sometimes forget to take it with me when I leave the house >.>; which means, they wouldn't have the chance to hear my voice if they ever called me XD

Thank you for the warning though.

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Heard this a while ago, next thing you'll know someone will tell me that Nigerian price isn't going to be paying me back that money I loaned him.

In all seriousness it would be really nice if the government which finds it necessary to tap all of our phone calls and emails would arrest those scammers already. If you're ignoring our privacy you may as well use it to try and help people.

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Haha when you mentioned the Nigerian I remembered this.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-16/43-million-cash-found-empty-nigerian-apartment

http://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2017/04/18/twitter-pokes-fun-at-millions-found-in-nigerian-apartment.html

Not sure what is going on there and where this money is actually from. Ppl said it seems that those spam messages were real after all XD

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For those living in the US - the IRS will NEVER call you for overdue taxes... they always send mail. If someone calls you and tries to intimidate you into giving them information with threats or intimidation tactics like you will be jailed, do NOT fall for it.

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Easy solution: unplug the house phone (if it doesnt have caller ID) and only answer calls on your cell/mobile that are from numbers you recognize.
On the rare occasions I answer the phone to a blocked number or one I dont know I never say yes, I either say "speaking" (which cant be used for any yes/no confirmations) or start with "who is this?". If it's not someone I know I either screw them around if I'm bored or I hang up.
Generally the only people you dont know that call you are either chasing money or trying to scam you, so in either case it's not worth talking to them.

And never ever give anyone that calls you your DoB or CC info, even if they claim to be from a company that you're dealing with those companies will never call you asking for that info, they will generally send a letter or email asking you to contact them

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wouldn't it just be easier to record actors or people from youtube who say yes in their recording?

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Next thing would be "You don't have to be BEWARE of scammers to be scammed" :p

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actually, the scam is a little different, it's not just "yes", which in and of itself is useless. What you're really looking for is something like this:

Got a call from "mastercard", saying there was a promotion where you could win $100 bucks, or something like that.
They asked me to state my address, to repeat the last 4 digits of my card, and the word "yes". ~note that I caught on, and gave false information).
They then charge it, and record your voice over their questions:

"so you're buying X. what's the name on the Credit Card?"
recording of your name
"what's the address of the card?"
recording of your address
"please repeat the last 4 digits"
recording of the last 4 digits
"do you agree to pay XXX?"
recording of Yes

Makes it a lot harder to reverse the charge. note that this is based off of hacked data, where they get the phone number and last 4 digits of a card from some place

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They don't know your FULL CC though... so how does that work? Also I would never repeat any of that information over the phone.

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they do, they hacked the data, but they just ask fr the last four digits, because people are more willing to confirm that than to repeat the whole thing. And then they tell the credit card company that you keyed in your card number and they asked you to confirm the last 4 verbally

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Thank you for the warning Khalaq and lucky that the scammers I encounter are old school ones that try to scam me through mail saying I won millions or that my PayPal account is not in order and not these evolved ones.

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For those who doubt, i advice a brief tour of the bibliography of Kevin Mitnick o.O

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This is so old in spain, and its trickier, because we usually answer the phone with a "Si?" which is the same word (sí) as yes...

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xDD

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It's nothing. Google "Adobe Project VoCo" if you want some real scares.

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How do those people get your phone number in the first place?

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Generate it? I mean there are only so many combinations. That or buy it, it's for sale I'm sure

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That or buy it, it's for sale I'm sure

In multiple places. Your phone number, your email, your name, your password, your credit card numbers, ... The list goes on and on.

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If all they get is "yes" they can't do shit. My bank doesn't know my voice, my CC company does not know my voice. YES means NOTHING. The people who got scammed said other stuff. Like their address, phone #, SS# etc.....

Don't believe "YES" is going to do anything.

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Most people are aware that stating their address over the phone is risky. Not everyone is aware that saying "Yes" is also risky, hence the warning.

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Do you want us to remove you from our marketing lists ?

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Do you want us to remove you from our marketing lists ?

"Please."

Are you sure?

"I am sure, so remove me."

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"I would be very pleased if you removed me from your marketing list, good sir."

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I just don't answer random phone numbers xD

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mhh interesting, i guess with cold calling being illegal here in germany you kinda know that if you receive a call like this it has to be scam.

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Hey guys,
just to give some background for ppl in Europe:

There are mainly 2 system for advertising calls: Opt-Out and Opt-In.
Opt-Out means companies are allowed to cal you until an active protest from your side.
Opt-In means they are not allowed to call you, unless you agreed to it before the call.

Which version is activ depends on your country.

In Germany Opt-In is the one. If you still get calls in Germany you can report them here:
Bundesnetzagentur

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If a foreign accent and hear a chicken crowing or hen bock bock bocking in the background then beware!

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Beware those foreign chickens....

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Just tell them with a weird accent so they can understand: "I don't know the owner of this phone. I just stole it moments ago".

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I would recommend NOT getting out of your car to remove anything keys or no keys. Your life is more valuable than your car. Do it at a gas station or anywhere safer.

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