It would be nice for it to say what the * system means on create GA page, so people can see it there with no problem :)
Comment has been collapsed.
So you still believe this change is going to bring an avalanche of new threads? 4 days in, there's hardly anything on the subject. I guess there's still some "hope" that this will change once the announcement is unstickied ;-)
Comment has been collapsed.
who knows, maybe we won't need an alt-FAQ to teach people what and what-not to post on sg after all.
Comment has been collapsed.
There are already a lot of threads created by users asking why the game they want to give away is not on the list. Now they will be able to give the games away and the only difference is there will be a ** next to the name of the game. Most people will not know what that means or not see it at all. They they will be creating threads asking why they gave a game away and they are still level 0 or their CV did not increase.
I really think anytime someone selects a free game to give away there should be a warning box that shows on the page saying something like: The game you are giving away has been free in the past and you will not receive any CV for giving it away. Not a box that you have to click, just something that is displayed on the page when you select the game, preferably in red to be noticeable.
Edit: It looks like a change was made recently to address this problem and there are now descriptions below the game selection box that say:
* Reduced value towards your contributor level.
** No value towards your contributor level.Comment has been collapsed.
That would be good, but it needs an actual text warning letting you know that if you give away a free game, you will not get any credit for it. It looks like he already made a change that should help. He added a description below the box that says
* Reduced value towards your contributor level.
** No value towards your contributor level.Comment has been collapsed.
Really dumb question but why can't we simply see what the CV is for the item when we create a giveaway? Like, the actual number
Comment has been collapsed.
That's not a bad idea, although games with recent changes would have an incorrect CV value because I believe there is only 1 person that adds games to the bundle list on SG and often games are retroactively bundled. There would need to be a disclaimer saying that the CV value may be incorrect if the game was recently bundled, discounted at least 95%, or free.
Comment has been collapsed.
That's what we end up having to figure out anyway so I don't see the difference, just as you say.
Comment has been collapsed.
If you adjust for bundle value and show that number when creating giveaways, we will get more complaints about setting bundle status retro actively.
"But it showed 20CV non bundled when I created the GA witht the game from a fresh bundle. Now I get only 3."
As far as I know there is no way to handle that issue.
Comment has been collapsed.
Sounds Great .. Thanks for the constant update and maintaining CG !! (and crew)
Comment has been collapsed.
Saw the topic title, opened the post to look for a poll to vote yes on. Instead, it's already happening! :)
Thank you, cg and all the people helping to go through the list!
Comment has been collapsed.
It's so amusing reading this thread. Users who blacklisted me over suggesting this exact same thing are now kissing ass and claiming it's a good idea.
Comment has been collapsed.
Are no CV giveaways still counted in the giveaways made number?
Comment has been collapsed.
Are Humble Monthly games not given reduced CV? I just did a quick search for recent monthly games and they didn't have asterisks next to the title.
Comment has been collapsed.
No, they usually don't trigger the ~95% threshold. So unless they were or will get bundled again, they usually remain non-bundled on this site.
Comment has been collapsed.
Combined price of Humble Monthly games would need to be over 216$ for 95% bundle rule to be triggered. So far it never happened - Monthlies Value so far was between 115$ least value one and 200$ most value one, so considering cheapest you can get it (new buyer using 10% coupon so 10.80$) it means that discount for Monthlies was between 90,6% and 94,6% so far ;) No 95%+, no bundle list ;)
Comment has been collapsed.
I noticed this myself when I gave away one of my humble monthly games Shoppe Keep, I figured it was going to be a bundle game, but on my CV list it was listed as Full Value game, and that must be why like last year when I won WWE2k16 (which was a humble monthly game) was considered full value as well.
Comment has been collapsed.
I like this update. Now we won't have lots of keys going to waste. Some great games have been free before.
Sometimes we couldn't find a friend that doesn't have a game that has been free and we would forget that key.
Comment has been collapsed.
One important thing. It should not give +1 to game sent unless it is in separate section. Also it would be great if they would be in separate section in SG, as sometimes it will be hard to find interesting game in spamed free ones;)...
On the other hand it would be also unfair to get "not received" for free games. You can not be sure that free key will work (if you did not bought such free game)...
Comment has been collapsed.
I forgot there were people who are so used to games being given away for free they mention you being banned and tell you to remove the giveaway instead.
Comment has been collapsed.
bump for hiding even more trash giveaways from the homepage 👌
Comment has been collapsed.
Is there a page where we can see the list of games that give no value, like https://www.steamgifts.com/bundle-games?
Comment has been collapsed.
I'm aware of that discussion, I'm talking about a page like the one I linked, offered by SG and not dependent on manual updates by users.
Comment has been collapsed.
Does that mean we will see an influx of games like the unforgiving trials games being given away? Or will games like that reman ungiftable?
Comment has been collapsed.
You tell us, the change already happened, one can make giveaway for games that were blocked in the past
Comment has been collapsed.
I have keys for many games which were previously removed and which haven't been added back yet. Should I create a ticket?
These are the games:
16bit Trader
8BitBoy
A grande baguna espacial - The big space mess
Ace Of Words
Adorables
Ascent - The Space Game
Autumn
Avencast: Rise of the Mage
Axis football 2015
Base Squad 49
Beast Blaster
Bionic Dues
BitRay
Brine (aka Strayed)
Broadsword: Age of Chivalry
Cloud Knights
CortexGear: AngryDroids
Crystals of Time
Cubetractor
Data Hacker: Corruption
Data Hacker: Initiation
Data Hacker: Reboot
Deadbreed
Deadly Profit
Deep Dungeons of Doom
Drift Speed Japan
Elements Soul Of Fire
Endorlight
Escape This
Faeria
Fearless Fantasy
Fiends of Imprisonment
Forbidden Planet
Fort Defense
Gaben The Final Decision
Galactic Hitman
Glow Ball - The Billiard Puzzle
Gorky 17
Grave Prosperity Redux
Guardians of Victoria
Heaven Island Life
Heaven Island VR MMO
Hero Quest
High On Racing
Hot Lead
In Between
Initia: Elemental Arena
Into the Void
Iron Madness
JDM Tuner racing
Journey To The Center Of The Earth
Kidnapped
Kraven Manor
Krog Wars
Krum Edge Of Darkness
Lead and Gold: Gangs of the Wild West
Magma Tsunami
Masked Shooter 2
Melissa K and the Heart of Gold
Merchants of Kaidan
MiniDrivers
Mountain Crime: Requital
Nostradamus
Nyctophobia
Outdrive
Overcast - Walden and the Werewolf
Particula
Party Jousting Zombie Pack DLC
Phoenix Force
Post Mortem
Predator Simulator
Q.U.B.E Director Cut
Racer 8
Redactem
Retention
Rhino's Rage
Ringies
Robin Hood
Royal Defense
Rubber and Lead
SAMOLIOTIK
Shiplord
Sparkle 3 Genesis
Spheroid
Squarelands
Steel & Steam: Episode 1
Stop Online - Battle of Words
Superfight
Supraball
Tap Heroes
Temper Tantrum
Terra lander
The Deer
The Next Door
The Note
The Orb Chamber
The Troma Project
They Came From The Moon
Three Dead Zed
Timore Inferno
Unforgiving Trials: Darkest Crusade
Unknown Battle
Urizen
Violett Remastered
Vox Populi Vox Dei 2
Weapons Genius
Why So Evil
Why So Evil 2
Wishmaster
Woodle Tree Adventures
Wyatt Derp
X-Blades
Yellow ArtifactComment has been collapsed.
So no endless giveaways for +1 with a link to the store page? Shaaaaame :c
Comment has been collapsed.
So there isn't an official list? You guys have to find the games manually?
Comment has been collapsed.
Ah, that's unfortunate, I hope cg adds one list like the bundle one day.
By the way, can you confirm to me if there was a date on the asterisks when hovering over them before cg added the descriptions? I'm quite sure I hovered over an asterisk and saw something like "Reduced value since [date]". Or did I just imagine it?
Comment has been collapsed.
Alright, I got through these:
Retention
Rhino's Rage
Ringies
Robin Hood
Royal Defense
Rubber and Lead
SAMOLIOTIK
Shiplord
Sparkle 3 Genesis
Spheroid
Squarelands
Steel & Steam: Episode 1
Stop Online - Battle of Words
Superfight
Supraball
Tap Heroes
Temper Tantrum
Terra lander
The Deer
The Next Door
The Note
The Orb Chamber
The Troma Project
They Came From The Moon
Three Dead Zed
Timore Inferno
Unforgiving Trials: Darkest Crusade
Unknown Battle
Urizen
Violett Remastered
Vox Populi Vox Dei 2
Weapons Genius
Why So Evil
Why So Evil 2
Wishmaster
Woodle Tree Adventures
Wyatt Derp
X-Blades
Yellow Artifact
A list is really helpful.
Comment has been collapsed.
Thank you! I already created GAs for some of these games :-)
Comment has been collapsed.
Just some more games:
GooCubelets: The Algoorithm
CT Special Forces: Fire for Effect
Cult of the Wind
Hyper Fighters
Indie Game Battle
Genesis of Drones
Glass Wing
Foreign Legion: Multi Massacre
Dungeons Are Random
Dungeons Are Random
Orborun
Comment has been collapsed.
I still gave this stuff away, but just for free...the orphan keys drop thread was the perfect place for it.
The way I see it, not that much has changed in terms of overall content or anything -- we just have a better way to give away the free trash to someone who might actually want it (for whatever reason -- up to them), and prevent the bots from taking the licenses (a big problem if they're not well obfuscated in the orphan key drop thread). I may change my tune if we suddenly see hundreds upon hundreds of junk licenses, but then again, we always have the ability to filter out stuff that we don't want to see.
In any case, thanks, guys! This is a nice improvement!
Comment has been collapsed.
It's nice to see some changes happening! Great update :3
Comment has been collapsed.
So if anything has the 1 asterix next to it's name, is it always automatically reduced to 15% CV?
Would there be any way to find out what % CV you receive if it isn't 15%?
Comment has been collapsed.
CV is always the base USD price on Steam(apart from when it's not, but those are temporary). Best indicator is number of points which works until 100. If the value of game is more than 100 the point cost is 100, but you still get the CV corresponding to price.
This CV value is reduced to 15% for games with * on list.
Comment has been collapsed.
For example - right now "Alice's Patchworks 2" is free on one shady site. Support removed cv and now if u create giveaway for this game u will see **
Suggestion
Can we have a message "No Value Game" on giveaway page with this games? If u check archive with "Alice's Patchworks 2" u will see that ppl spamming with "its not allowed" and "freeeeeee" messages also reporting&blacklisting 😎
Comment has been collapsed.
Hi SG, a few changes to the site today related to games and contributor value. In the past, the site had three types of games:
The downside was we needed to block games and remove them from the giveaway list when they were briefly free, or posted in large giveaways outside of our community. We needed to do so to prevent users from obtaining a high number of keys for free, and giving them away for contributor value on SteamGifts. Unfortunately, this meant lots of great games were blocked and users could no longer send or receive them. Today's update allows users to start creating giveaways for these games once again, but simply for no contributor value. However, please be patient as we work through the 1,000+ games that were previously blocked, and add them back to the giveaway list when appropriate. We now have four types of games available:
For assistance, when you're creating a giveaway, the game list will show * next to games that are Reduced Value Games, and ** next to games that are No Value Games. Keep in mind, these icons are just for reference, and similar to before, the value of a giveaway can change if we need to make retroactive changes.
Comment has been collapsed.