There's a lot of these threads, so I'll try to keep it brief.

Usually there's two tiers of games when a indie bundle sale appears. The $1 ones, and the beat-the-average ones. The notable exception is Indie Royale, and maybe something else, I don't remember. With the contributor system and the bundle list this leads to situations where a $5 Indie Royale containing 3-4 Steam redeemable games gets considered bundled, but an Amazon pack which has 5 Steam games and costs the same, does not (not, in my humble opinion should it).

Let's take a look on how the sales affect the number of games contributed, with a couple of examples:

$1 games:

  • Darksiders from HIB, 1644 giveaways made on peak day (27.03.)
  • Party of Sin from Groupees, 230 giveaways made on peak day (13.02.)

On the other hand we have their BTA counterparts (~$7 and $5 respectively)

The disparity is obvious and becomes even bigger if you look at the whole duration of the sale.

What I propose is that the bundle list should contain only games that were part of a $1/$0.99 deal.

That would include, for example Limbo, VVVVV, Crazy Machines 1/1.5, Darksiders, but at the same time it wouldn't include Atom Zombie Smasher (only a part of BTA HIB3), Crazy Machines Elements or Darksiders 2. Or for example, Bastion wouldn't get on the list back when HIB V appeared, but rather 2 weeks ago, when i became a $1 deal. This could solve the complaints of people arguing why some Amazon/GMG deals aren't considered bundled, would let people who bought BTA versions of bundles (usually $4 or more, with the latest weekly HIB as an exception) contribute to the fullest and at the same time encompass most of what a lot of the community seems as 'contributor value farming/abusing'.

Of course, this is just a (probably not so well thought through) suggestion, feel free to point out the flaws behind my reasoning.

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Maybe the BTA games could be worth a little bit more of a %, but I think that removing them from the list wouldn't work so well.

11 years ago
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Why do you think so? In most cases, you need to pay the minimal amount for 3-5 games, but you pay $4-6 extra for that 1 or 2 BTA game (HIB 6 had for example had 9 games for $1, but you had to pay $5.5 more for Dustforce.)

11 years ago
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NO

Give stats for last bundle

Lets check again

11 years ago
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You have the stat for the last bundle right there.

If you by 'last' mean the current one, it's 304 Red Orchestra's on the 1st day (+ 14 Red Orchestra Franchise packs) and 208 Killing Floor Bundles. One the 2nd that ration is even lower (~200/80).

11 years ago
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Basically bta games will be tier-2 bundled games. I suggest to be able to Max your CV up to 100 and excess will contribute to 40% of your base CV for tier 2

11 years ago
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I like this idea of making bta bundle games worth more.

11 years ago
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Yeah that is an interesting suggestion, but dunno, system is complicated as is for a lot of people, adding another layer might be overkill. Not that I dislike the idea.

11 years ago
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Or simply finally remove the stupid contribution-value-system - as long as it's here, no matter what changes will be made, someone will always find a way to cheat the system and gain unfair advantage.

11 years ago
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agreed.....you got so boring after our last conversation

11 years ago
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sorry - well, last time I was drunk (as I'm usually am while on computer ;P) - and when I'm drunk I'm in argue-on-mode ;p now as I'm in family home for holidays I don't drink - maybe that's the reason ;p

11 years ago
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You didnt even accept my Nacho challenge :(

11 years ago
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I've just noticed it ;p

11 years ago
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Unfortunately this can't be objective as the BTA number isn't static. Sometimes it's two dollars, sometimes it's 10 dollars. People who buy for a dollar in the first five minutes are going to get a ton of free contributor compared to those who buy later when the average is higher. Plus groupees has a different higher bar number every bundle. Sometimes it's 5 or 7 dollars sometimes it's 2 or 3.

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The only bundles that have a changing BTA price are HIB and IR, both have it set higher in the beginning then it usually ends. The Killing Floor one started at $9 now it's 3, Darksiers one dropped by 3 in a couple of hour from start...IIRC only HIB V actually incresed in price over time.

IR's a different matter, they usually stay withing .5 of the preset price.

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Not really. IR starts at $4 but usually hovers around $5.50 now

11 years ago
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Thanks for the giveawa...it...

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Closed 11 years ago by MegaGiga.