Have you ever cheated on a Steam game?
Im remember very well one code for money: "klapaucius" = "The Sims 2"
So im a cheater :(
but but... i only used cheats in "The Sims 2" and in "GTA 2" / "GTA 3".
Never in multiplayer.
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My 1st FPS game was Crossfire NA, they had always tons of cheaters. Wonder, how long they need to get a paid game, out of cheats xD
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Never used any cheats in competitive type games, but I admit I used to use bots to farm Ragnarok online and autobuyers / fake score senders on Neopets when I was much younger.
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In MP games I never found cheating/hacking fun. It just ruins how the game is meant to be played. MP games are made to test your skill, not cheating your way to victory, because if you do cheat, you're ruining the fun for other people. Imagine a player who spent 1000 of hours trying to be the best but then a newbie comes and cheats his way to victory. This ruins the flow of the game. It ruins planning, knowledge of the maps, when to attack and when to fall back.
In SP games with no online interaction, you're free to do whatever you want, which is why, sometimes, when I get bored I just enable all weapons command (or create my own depends on the game's code) and just go guns blazing because you're fighting against AI bots who are designed to fight you and it doesn't hinder the storyline or flow of the game. One example of a game I can think of which I never played but saw videos was Dishonored games. Plus, I don't have to worry about getting banned, because a game with no online interaction doesn't restrict you to do that. Hell, there are games that allow you to create multiple profiles. So if you want to keep your original progress clean and cheat free, just create a new profile and play with cheats there instead.
Bottom line is if you're bad at these games then either be a man, suck it up and become better by training yourself or just don't play them. If you want to be overpowered and unstoppable, play any SP games that allow you to do that. But of course, there are some people who are not willing to take that path.
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I hate achievements and leaderboard cheaters... but they're everywhere so i can't help with that :(
oh okay, after think about it again, i will just accept that. I don't hate them..
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This is kinda fake news. Steamdb stopped months ago checking every day for vac bans, therefor once when they do, ofcourse that there will be high number at checking day.
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Every VAC ban has datetime stamp, when you check is irrelevant. Yes, it no longer gives you real amount of people banned, but it gives accurate dates for those that they do check out "by the way" while doing other things.
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I sometimes cheat in singleplayer narrative-driven games when I want to progress faster or experiment. But I see no point in cheating against real life players in multiplayer games. Then again, I'm not the multiplayer type, except on rare occasions.
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I admit that I'm too lazy to read into it, but here is what I think: As long as the cheats dont affect other players in a bad way I'm fine with it. They can be fun, and make games you love even more memorable from time to time.
But yeah, all the CS:GO hackers can eat shyt, thats what you deserve imo
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Lol, look at the poll i can see that there are still 21 people who are still actively cheating...
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I have never once cheated in a multiplayer game and never will. At least, I have never cheated where cheating wasn't pre-agreed upon by everyone playing. We've pre-agreed to use cheats in some (non-Steam) local area network multiplayer games to change things up a bit. But is it actually cheating if everyone involved agrees to a set of rules around said cheats?
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Yes.
But agreed upon cheats, so that's OK.
you're a horrible person... ;-)
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Weird, offensive, really off-topic answer that somehow still is mildly exciting.
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I don't know what they have... all of this peoples never played crossfire. The cheaters can not be big at valve, as they are on a free game. and at a free game you have up and downs, where you see sometimes no cheater... so hell ya... but yeaahhh bring some stuff and say 75k banned.. you log in and? nothing changed,... for me is this thread senseless and need a close lol
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I once joined a server that granted me all(at the time) achievements in tf2. That's the only "cheating" I did in a mp game :p
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cheating on mp games(i dont care about SP) is like cheating your gf-you know its bad, but if you doing this u know one day your lies can get u into troubles.
Still never cheated in any MP game...yet, many times got frustrated about cheaters...i know its only a game, but i dont buy games just for buying/collecting. I want to have same chances as other players
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Sometimes i feel like lion playing poker and losing...
u know why?
Lions plays with cheetahz xD
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95k... and how many from Dota, KF, Payday and other games?
How many from CS:g/0 for skin changer? NO stats!
When I played without a prime account - I found that competitive players with a ban was about 25%
my stats: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1397255031
After switching to prime account - players who get a ban in 1 month ~ 1%, but in every game after watching the demo it's easy to identify a cheater who does not get a ban over a months !!!
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Does using SAM count as cheating? I used it once when an achivement I earned didn't unlock even though I did what needed to be done twice.
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yes
and steam ban for using SAM
since at least 1 year
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Nobody gets banned for using it in single person games. I looked it up before I even used it.
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The only game that I know that bans people for using SAM is Payday 2 - but those achievements are connected with game unlockables and some mechanics - so they kinda give advantage but it's still stupid because game is co-op only
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I would assume VAC ones do too. I would never use it to get one I didn't earn. I'd be tempted to use it on Arkham Origins just because of the stupid multiplayer achievements that are impossible to get now. Probably wouldn't though.
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I was thinking about using it to unlock some broken achievements but then I decided that I don't care xD and then those games were banned from steam anyway xD
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Well It would be pointless for me to do it anyway since I wouldn't be able to get all the regular achievements since I can never pull off the perfect combos in those games.
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I don't believe SAM triggers a VAC Ban. I have seen many Steam Profiles where they have all 167 Achievements in CS:GO achieved on the same time, and none of them got a VAC Ban. And these were "earned" over 2 years ago, and they are still playing the game!
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I have cheated but only on private servers with bots or friends who knew what they where getting in to.
Why? Because when you want to administrate a high-skill game server you have to know what capabilities cheats have, how they work ingame and what the tells are, to differentiate cheaters from players who are just that good. And in my eyes watching videos simply can't replace the experience.
Also Hackwars is a lot of fun on (private) LAN-Parties. Everybody gets 15minutes to find a public hack and then the game is started. Whoever is most dominant in that war of the aimbots wins.
Other than that:
Cheating in Singleplayer games in ok because who am I to judge how you want to play your games.
But as soon as other players get involved be it directly or via comparison ... Fuck Cheaters
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I hate cheaters. [I don't speak from fun cheats with friends on a LAN or such things...]
I like the banhammer for them.
So praise ODIN :-D and let the MMMMMMultikills flow :-D
As a sidenote... VAC bans come for cheating in Singleplayer too when the Game is VAC protected.
I seen a lot players that catched because they used, a lot of, cheat tools in SP mode.
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Huh? o.0
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/anticheat/vac_integration
VAC depends on the game server to exclude VAC banned users from games. Thus it only works for multi-player games and does nothing for single player games.
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Well, with several single player games these days requiring a connection to a game server anyway, for those games it would be entirely technically possible to get VAC bans if the devs implement it server-side.
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They got the VAC bans from the SP Part of Games that have MP AND SP
You are only save with SP Games that don't have MP parts in it.
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Most reports on "SP VAC bans" are actually from co-op. Or from games that play on a server for some ungodly reason. I still have a Lighting Hawk magnum with six weapon slots somewhere on RE Revelations 1 that has 765 enhancements on it when the game maximum is 4 slots and 30 boosts. Used it to farm from level 45 to 50 since it takes normally forever and a half (it takes longer than level 1–45). And it is a VAC game. RE.net recognised the memory hack accordingly and disabled my account from participating in online events, but VAC never kicked in, since I never went on any server to be monitored. Even though a literal god weapon is a tad difficult to not recognise when your dps is over twenty times the theoretical game maximum.
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I feel bad when every time when I have to cheat. sims are mercilles
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I think VAC banned accounts should be removed from STEAMGIFTS
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I understand where you are coming from but I don't think that is a good idea.
Valve has a system to punish people, and an unrelated site should not get involved in that at all.
Looking at the sheer numbers of bans there's bound to be a few false ones as well, imagine having one of those and then other sites remove you as well?
And where do we draw the line if we start looking at other sites?
Is a snappy comment on Reddit enough, an angry letter to the local newspaper? If we don't like your clothes?
That sort of picking up of unconfirmed snippets of information from unrelated sites is not what I think SG moderators should be chasing. There is quite enough trouble here for them to keep track of ;-)
And let's face it, people are seldom evil through and through, if someone misbehaves on Steam (and gets punished for it there), but behaves good here - why ban them here too?
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I want to have this option on steam gifts . Remove BANed accounts from giveaways .. Why not they will always find a way to trick others !
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You have it already. Use sgtools to create a set of rules to enter your GA:s.
No VAC ban is quite often used, so evidently there are more SG-users who feel strongly about this just as you do.
You can choose between several pre-defined rules, and you can build your own custom rules for entering your GA:s.
Go ahead, check it out, it might be just the thing you are looking for.
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As RCSWE mentioned below, you can use SGTools as an option.
However, I would like to mention that not all accounts with VAC Bans can be painted with the same brush. I would like to post a Steam Profile here of someone that got a VAC Ban several years ago and actually did learn from it! They changed their behaviour and became a better person for it. Unfortunately, that can't be said for everyone that gets a ban.
Here is the account: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Blanchflower
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last time I cheated was was over 12 years ago.
used a game shark on my PS2 while playing Final Fantasy 12.
got stuck on the king bomb boss and I just couldn't do it.
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To me it's very simple, cheating in multiplayer or games with a leaderboard is not okay, giving yourself infinite ammo or higher hp in some single player game is fine. Back in the day most games had a godmode code .... I have no issue with that.
What really p-ed me off though was the mini game during the sale. Sure, it was impossible to 'beat' w/o a script, but why didn't everyone start complaining? To me, using a script there is cheating, yet they accept it.
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I think nobody complained about the sale's mini game rampant use of scripts because the game was kinda shit and no one cared much about it besides the free cards, free chance at winning games or e-peen stuff. People saw it as a chance to get stuff and not as a real game worth playing for its own merits.
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Valve intended the game to be played that way, just like the previous alien game. If you find the profiles of some of the more well-known Valve employees, you'll see that they achieved scores that would have been impossible without scripting.
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I'm fine with valve handing bans left and right as long as they're fair, it's the unavoidable small (or sometimes not so small) percentage of unjust bans that I may have an issue with.
And about cheating, it depends on what you consider cheating, is a pretty grey zone with fuzzy border. My take is that it's completely fine in single-player since you can have your fun however you see fit, but it's unacceptable in multi-player because you're affecting (probably in a negative way) someone else's experience. The big exception in SP would be score-attack games and leaderboards in general cos those are definitely within the realm of MP even if you're not directly interacting with other people.
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95.000 VAC bans in seven days.
Comments on that?
(As pointed out the questionnaire does not differentiate between single player games and multiplayer games - which have very different connotations in regards to cheating. So to clear up; The questionnaire is about online multiplayer games.)
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