New round of banned games.
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Thank you again for SGTools, Knsys! <3
In my last train that ran for just over 3 weeks with both bundled and unbundled games and after checking with the invalid entries tab, the train checker and manually with SGTools links on SG profile there was not one invalid entry to be found! ❤️💙💛 👍👍👍
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Hi, I won Disney Mega Pack and now Pure is showing as not activated. It was part of the pack but it was removed from the store.
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Hey knsys,
I have a simple question; Is there any automatic/manuel system to ban all invalid giveaway entrants? The thing I have in my mind is create some rules for some giveaways but I'd like give giveaway link to some users (e.g. my whitelist) even though they can't pass rules. Is this ok?
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Thanks for the answer <3
Being said that; is it possible to add whitelist as a rule? :D
Something like "(no vac ban and cv > 1) or whitelisted"
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I can't find any variables for excluding (or including for the sake of modification by formulas) <5 entry giveaways, either in sent or won.
What are the variables for that? I assume there are some, given how much that ties into core filter considerations [especially given that SGT inexplicably counts free games at full value by default, which can lead to awkward situations where someone bypasses a level-associated CV requirement but still can't enter a giveaway due to having a SG-toggled level requirement also implemented, so it'd be nice to be able to avoid that ].
I also don't see any variables for including free game CV value to any degree, and that feels like another one that has some workable value to it (ie, if people want to treat free games as 10% value rather than 0%, for example).
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There is no custom rule variable for those type of giveaways (<5 entries), but they are not counted for CV calculations that are specific (bundled, nonbundles, region restricted and so on). They are only counted on the base real CV calculations (won and sent). This is because SGT uses the official number calculated by the website for the global num/sent calculations to avoid confusing people that double checks with profile.
And I maintain the <5 entries as "no cv" in all other more specific calculations because I still think CV should be a 0sum game.
Free games are counted as 0 value at SGT... if SGT knows that the game is a free one! The main problem here is that the isn't a list of free games, like the one with bundled games, so I need manual user reports for them to be added to the free games list on SGT side.
Yep, there isn't any variable on free games, SGT just sees them as a 0 CV gift. Is there any real interest on counting them on any other way?
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There is no custom rule variable for those type of giveaways (<5 entries), but they are not counted for CV calculations that are specific (bundled, nonbundles, region restricted and so on). They are only counted on the base real CV calculations (won and sent). This is because SGT uses the official number calculated by the website for the global num/sent calculations to avoid confusing people that double checks with profile.
And I maintain the <5 entries as "no cv" in all other more specific calculations because I still think CV should be a 0sum game.
You seem to be indicating that <5 entries don't count for any form of RealCV calculation on SGT by default? So it's only on the Win/Sent profile pages (eg http://www.sgtools.info/sent/[Username]/newestfirst) where SGT RealCV reporting doesn't match up to what SG has? 'cause I noticed a lot of users showing much higher values there than on SG itself, which is why I was concerned about mismatched entry conditions.
Free games are counted as 0 value at SGT... if SGT knows that the game is a free one! The main problem here is that the isn't a list of free games, like the one with bundled games, so I need manual user reports for them to be added to the free games list on SGT side.
I'll keep that in mind! Thanks for all your work!
I suppose this could also be a reason for SGT reporting different CV than SG?
Yep, there isn't any variable on free games, SGT just sees them as a 0 CV gift. Is there any real interest on counting them on any other way?
Oh, I just thought there might be some interesting theme utilizations for it (say, making a distinction between a user who hasn't given away anything at all, to one who has at least given away "fake CV"), but give that most free game giveaways are going to be exploitative in nature, I don't imagine there'd be much overall interest in nitpicking the nuances of such things. Even my bringing it up was based more in "while we're on the topic, I'm curious" than any firm intention to utilize such variables myself.
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Okay, I think I got it now.
So, is there a way to calculate total won CV including <5 entries- say, if you were trying to do a filter that only cared about total won being below (or above) a certain point, and didn't really care about SG politics regarding what counts for CV value?
It'd be cool to be able to have the freedom available to us to make a filter such as (CV+LessThan5EntriesCV+ (FreeCV*0.10)), say if you wanted to make a filter for catering specifically to newer site users (without having to worry about some outlier coming in with a hundred free games won, or something), or if you wanted a way to catch exploitative lessthan5entry groups, or whatever else you could use such filters for.
That is to say, it feels rather against SGT's "freedom to filter by GA creator preferences" to have any sort of value preset [except where the option doesn't exist to make it anything else], regardless of what SG classifies it as (since people may not agree with those classifications).
Also, this may not really be something within your scope of interest or expertise, but a script we could activate which tags games on SG that SGT recognizes as free, with the option for us to simply one-click from the SG site to send in a report that a game isn't matching free status between the sites, could really make your tracking of free games more efficient, if that's an arrangement that's possible to put into a script. Just a passing thought. :)
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So, is there a way to calculate total won CV including <5 entries- say, if you were trying to do a filter that only cared about total won being below (or above) a certain point, and didn't really care about SG politics regarding what counts for CV value?Basic real_won will give you that since it uses base steamgifts real cv for won (that includes <5 entries). If you want to exclude those entries, you could sum real_cv_bundled + unbundled for example.
It'd be cool to be able to have the freedom available to us to make a filter such as (CV+LessThan5EntriesCV+ (FreeCV*0.10)), say if you wanted to make a filter for catering specifically to newer site users (without having to worry about some outlier coming in with a hundred free games won, or something), or if you wanted a way to catch exploitative lessthan5entry groups, or whatever else you could use such filters for.Right now the only part that you cannot calculate in any way is the freeCV. So for something like that to work we'd need the freeCV cached value. It's easily doable, but we need first a way to properly calculate that freeCV -> get an updated list of free games. That leads to your next suggestion.
Also, this may not really be something within your scope of interest or expertise, but a script we could activate which tags games on SG that SGT recognizes as free, with the option for us to simply one-click from the SG site to send in a report that a game isn't matching free status between the sites, could really make your tracking of free games more efficient, if that's an arrangement that's possible to put into a script. Just a passing thought. :)That could be included to the actual SGT userscript, but I think it'll be more useful for it to be on a widely used userscript like ESGST. And since the author of that script tried to gather the list of free games too, it may be interested in something like this. Send him a message about it, I could integrate it to SGT in a later stage :)
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Just had my first train with invalid entries, 8 total and 1 actually won unfortunately. Assuming that this is where I request that they be given infractions, if not could you point me in the right direction, I can't seem to find anything. I double checked to make sure all wagons were invite only.
Also one of my winners profiles is private so manual checking does't work on sgtools, since the rules also checked for inactivated and no multiple can I assume that they synced somewhat recently?
Thanks for the great tool and any clarification regarding the above!
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Yes, this is the right place to ask for infractions to be applied. I just did apply them, thanks for the report!
If one of them won, ask a reroll through a steamgifts support ticket and you'll get a new winner.
If one of your winners profile is private, you can ask steamgifts support to check it for you.
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Battleplan: American Civil War
but GA ended July 30, 2017 not marked as "Free game"
Cubic http://store.steampowered.com/app/718330/
but GA ended October 27, 2017 not marked as "Free game"
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Battleplan: American Civil War http://store.steampowered.com/app/285130/Battleplan_American_Civil_War/
GA ended July 30, 2017 not marked as "Free game"
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you right
http://www.sgtools.info/sent/katus/newestfirst
but not work here
http://www.sgtools.info/sent/c0ba812/newestfirst
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Hi, here are some titles not detected as free games in SG Tools:
Thanks, regards.
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Hi knsys,
I banned ur site
You are currently serving an infraction until
5017-12-09 10:07:38
NY Time
How can I fix ?
This punishment when the im new fresh user
Now I am more aware of these issues
Would you remove the punishment please ?
I promise you that something like this will never happen again
Thanks for time
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You entered the following protected giveaways without a valid entry:
Strike system is in place to let the user learn through mistakes. You have broken the rules 6 times, the infraction will stay as it is.
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This title not detected as free games:
Doomed Kingdoms
Pirates Deck - excluded from GA list, but if check this
https://www.steamgifts.com/user/Smectik
this game count as "free game"
i checked this with spreadsheet and got match with SG
If calculations use price-0.01 we get the exact match with SG (this is especially of importance when a large number of GA)
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If the game was revoked you will need to make a ticket asking support to change the feedback to not received.
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Also, you should comment on the giveaway to let the creator know what happened. They may give you a new key or if you agree they can have support delete the giveaway.
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Clean (with support approval) user appearing with a lot of not activated wins that all share the same timestamp, take a look yourself: https://www.steamgifts.com/user/Peenuts
You can see all games listed on SGtools as not activated, being on their account, checked that myself.
Seems to be a bug of some kind.
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Weird... still got the info from copy & pasting for support ticket however, there were 32 games showing up and all with the date "2015-12-09 06:58:00".
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It was 3D Realms Anthology - Steam Edition, since it's the package at that exact date and it has 33 items inside it.
I don't know why it was flagging before and not now. Maybe api stopped returning temporarily those games as owned for some unknown reason, or the owner indeed didn't activate it's copy and now did so. Either way, now they are viewed as owned by SGT and that's why it doesn't flag.
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hi f1476612-e442-11e7-a65e-fa163ee2f826, it's still running but as you can see, most of the carts have the same invalid entries, checked their steam profiles and THEY'RE STEAM FRIENDS! Some of them even have like 40 or more account that are clearly farming accounts, by their name and by the fact that all were idling the same game.
Funny thing, one of them even left a comment here, I will create a steamgift support ticket as well.
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Checking permissions is easy, I just thought it was the best place for that info to be.
Can you please explain me in which scenario you'd want that info in the giveaway dashboard? Maybe I missed something and it's indeed useful to have it there!
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I guess this is an uncommon use case, but I was splitting up my train into 3 parts and create an entry point for each of them, and I wanted to make sure that all the giveaways are included in the 3 parts. Currently, I would need to middle click on the edit button to open it in new tab, and then the newly added link to view it.
There is no rush to implement it, though. It might make sense as a use case for me, but may not be for other people, and we don't want to clutter the interface with rarely used features.
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Well I think it's a nice addition, maybe not on giveaway dashboard (where you see all giveaways that you tried to enter), but on manage section, where you see all giveaways that you have created.
To avoid generating a ton of html that would be unnecessary on the majority of the occasions, I think the best approach is to have an endpoint generating those kind of information and access it though ajax on demand.
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Would you please change the options for owned_games in the custom rule builder to include "in" and "not in" operator instead of the regular comparison operators? From what I can gleam from other people's rules, owned_games is an array of app, so it doesn't quite make sense to use the regular comparison operators on it.
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No, this won't work. As the array is the owned_games variable, it should be flipped.
I'll look at it when I got some free time, since I don't want to break the "in" and "not in" operators for other variables. I've been very busy lately, and free time is a scarce thing unfortunately.
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Another round of banned games; just in time for the holidays.
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Hi. Yes. Sgtools can not find the activated game.
I owned this game: http://prntscr.com/hqf2qh ___ http://prntscr.com/hqf316
sgtools: http://prntscr.com/hqf1kh
steam - http://prntscr.com/hqf226 - not found
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Hello! I've got a game on my account that SGTools is suddenly reporting as not owned. What's the protocol to correct?
https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/FMX5J/transformers-devastation
http://www.sgtools.info/nonactivated/Gaffi
Store page is defunct: http://store.steampowered.com/app/338930
Blown away on SteamDB: https://steamdb.info/app/338930/history/
Edit:
Confirmed other users are also flagging for this game. Some examples:
http://www.sgtools.info/nonactivated/moshimoshi
http://www.sgtools.info/nonactivated/Rafaael
Thanks!
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+1 same here, fix it please
http://www.sgtools.info/nonactivated/nightwolf83
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Hello
I have a little problem...
I wanted to join to giveaways by steamgifts tools, and have a information
'Your account is flagged as having some unactivated Wins or your profile is Private.
This also can happen when Steam is down when you account synchronizes, if that is the case synchronize again.'
but i actived all my won keys ?
What is this all about?
Ps. sorry for my bad english
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You need to wait for transformers to be added to the sgtools whitelist as it has been removed from steam. See the comment above yours.
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See the post above yours and also here
Transformers Deastationa and a few other Activision games were taken off Steam due to expired licenses. When knsys gets to placing these titles on the sgtools whitelist your, and everyone elses, account won't get flagged any longer.
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http://www.sgtools.info/giveaways/f308e6ac-d17e-11e7-b317-fa163ee2f826
Borderlands had a leaked entry
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