How much will this bundle *TILTify* you?
Bundle itself is not worth it, if you buy, do it for the charity.
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[Please note, this is just a quick writing down and paraphrasing some of what was said. This was about 7 hrs and 45 minutes, give or take a few minutes, into today (the first day) of Jingle Jam stream]
Lewis was just talking a moment ago during the Jingle Cats section, about how they had a meeting at one point. They knew they weren't going to do HB this year (didn't say exactly why but there is speculation on the Yogs' Reddit it has to do with the original creator/owners of HB left at end of 2019 once the transition to IGN was complete), didn't have any games or devs lined up, the pandemic was making everything a bit more challenging and so they decided not to do the Jingle Jam. They left the meeting, Lewis was thinking and thought "We can't not do it. We have to do it, even if it sucks, we HAVE to do the Jingle Jam." So they came back, had another meeting, talked it out and went from there. Lewis was the one doing most/all of the talking to devs about keys (this used to be Turps job but he was booted last yr). There is one or two devs who still haven't sent their keys to the Yogscast. Lewis also said that Tiltify told him they'd be sending out keys about midnight each day, once they do start sending them out (didn't say midnight WHICH timezone).
So yeah, Lewis and them are expecting it to not do as well as previous bundles and all that, but because it was tradition at this point and because how shit a year it had been, they decided to try and do it best they could anyways, given the circumstances. They are hoping to come back next year with a more normal, traditional Jingle Jam.
Also, Thank you @sensualshakti for taking the reins on doing up a nice and proper bundle post.
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They've had to deal with covid, and lewis is still trying to understand just how it all works since all of this used to be Turps' job. Lewis got dumped all of it and honestly he's done better with the games, less DLCs overall, more full games.
They also aren't in full control of what games they can give out. Want to shout at someone for that? Shout at the devs and publishers. They're the ones that give the keys to be given, they're the ones who choose what to give.
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Yep, to add to that (since the other thread was just closed & I already typed out my reply to someone :D)
They could have run the bundle longer than the two weeks true, but the main thing is that the Jingle Jam is always a full month of streams & asking for donations, while this year they cut the streams down to 2 weeks. Not sure if they expected a lot less bundle sales after the 2 weeks or what, but this was their response:
"Why two weeks instead of the whole month?
There are a lot of reasons. Social distancing is a thing which means certain streams can't happen and in the past we've struggled to fill the second half of Jingle Jam with quality streams, especially from the third week when people start going home to their families. There's a whole load more factors that go in, one example being the clash with the Steam Winter Sale that starts mid-Dec and other bits."
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No idea why everybody is complaining.
...because a bunch of people have been buying bundles for at least a couple years now, and as a result they already have many of the games listed. So whatever games they don't have aren't worth the 25 GBP / 33.36 USD.
For me personally there's only two games I would want from this, as I already have like a third of them.
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Exactly, if you have been here.. then the offerings are a bit bleak though there are some gems.
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I see the issue is that it's for trading material and there is very likely not much people would actually keep... Compare to the itch.io bundle and even the Humble bundle that immediately followed that.
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If you look at the games themselves, it's a really good bundle. But genuinely, at a point we have to consider games as a product in the world too, and from that aspect it really feels weak.
I do considering the bundle, but tbh for 1-2 games for me just for a bit of curiosity, and 2-3 for gifting so I can play it with someome. The multiplayer games didn't even cost half of the bundle's asking price during the autumn bundle. Things like Orcs Must Die 2 or This War of Mine are pretty awesome, but when it comes to the big picture of every user - OMD2 is EIGHT years old, This War of Mine is almost a first-grader with its 6 years, and was bundled 14 times. Most of the great stuff is 3-5 years old, or even older. Great many people have these games.
I think three different points of view should be considered, likely more but these are the super obvious ones for me right now. Reality is the mix of these + others that I likely forget about.
1: this is a full charity bundle, before Christmas, and some people with the giving mindset and money to spare want to donate. From this aspect the games' value of any kind is irrelevant.
2: games themselves, as for fun/quality. In this aspect it has Tooth & Tail, This War of Mine, War for the Overworld, Sunless Sea, Orcs Must Die, Dicey Dungeons, The Battle of Polytopia, Prison Architect, Starbound, Don't Starve, Transistor. 11 games I picked for 28โฌ, around 2.7โฌ each, ignoring everything else. I honestly think these games worth that price without a second thought.
3:Almost everything is "recycled", some from a month ago (Darksburg), some - like OMD2 - weren't bundled since 2014 according to ITAD, but the demand for an 8 year old game that on its own can be purchased for 3โฌ (and offering regional prices in Steam, while the bundle is 28โฌ for all) makes the bundle quite questionable, mostly from the point of the organizers competency.
Sorry about the wall of text.
I'm genuinely torn between having games to gifts and having no friends who really wants them and SG's hoarding is real; between games are good and this bundle is old; and between charity is good, but local things also need help. Also paying this amount of money for basically games is really weird after years of monetary problems
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I share 100% the same opinion... This is the first close to decent.
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HB is doing so bad that not even Yogscast want to join them.
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There's a specific point about trading the keys/giving them as gifts ect, which is something that humble is against (especially the trading part). Perhaps that played a part into why. Could also just be time, they didn't apply for the bundle slot soon enough.
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would be an easy purchase if i didn't already own so many of the games
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Too expensive if your currency is not dollar, euro or pound. Having a weak currency sucks.
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I buy this every year so I did this year too. ๐
I think it's cool that despite all the shit going on in the world they took the time and energy to put this together.
Most games look decent and I'm actually missing some of them and there will be others who will be happy to get something of it I already own or don't want.
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There's been a few comments already about the Among Us DLC but I just wanted to add you get a random pet DLC out of the ones listed, not all of them.
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EDIT: Confirmed. It's only ONE bundle. https://www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/k4lkdo/jingle_jam_2020_schedule_links_faq/
Among Us - Random Pet Bundle 2.99
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I've been on the fence about donating, there are only a couple of games I'm interested in, so the rest would be for giveaways. But the more I read on that reddit thread about Tiltify the less inclined I am. And then there was this:
The developers can expire them when they desire, but have agreed to keep them valid until 2021.
So if you haven't used them by January, the keys may no longer work.
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... Wow, that is just... YIPES. I tend to go thru my Jingle Jam keys VERY slowly. I have some leftover from 2017 still and only recently cleared off the last couple from 2016. I was actually half considering trying to get this yr's bundle despite the new site and the short window to get it, but that last part has me steering clear now. Money is tight as it is, and if I can't have the guarantee of those keys being still good to gift for at least a year, I'll just pass. There are some good games in this bundle and they'd make for decent gifting throughout the year[s].
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Why would you still have keys from 2016???
Just redeem/giveaway them all. No need to keep them for a decade.
Not a single bundle site guarantees the keys for so long. You got lucky if none of them were expired.
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Are keys being received now? Kind of unclear to me reading the thread.
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Thread title:
[STILL waiting for keys to arrive...]
"Important" headline:
Make sure to select that you want the bundle as a reward otherwise you will not receive it!
(Did you do this?)
Note:
You will receive an email within 48 hours to claim your bundle!
Subnote:
No one received keys yet.
I'm not really sure how to make it more clear than that...
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An awful lot of time spent being snarky here when a simple "nope" would have sufficed. I haven't bought yet precisely because it's unclear from the thread title (which read as a bit sarcastic to me) and comments on this thread whether keys are being sent out. Yeesh.
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It's not been a full 48 hrs since the Jingle Jam officially started. I am guessing that they will start going out tomorrow at some point, but I personally am not sure exactly when. Lewis and the others seem to be a bit fuzzy on some the details themselves, in part because all the getting the bundle and finer details used to be someone else's responsibility in previous years (that person was kicked from the Yogscast last yr) so Lewis was/is doing the best he can considering having to learn things on the fly, but also in part because they're using a different site for the bundle than previous years, so that adds in an element of uncertainty.
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will pick this up but the price is kinda steep, I know I know charity, but still 33 bucks... I also dislike the 48 hour wait and the fact they seem to have screwed over people who donated early.. Also it moved away from Humble not that Humble hasn't had it's own share of issues lately..
probably like 6 games I don't own, with about 2 - 3 of them being games I might play or atleast be interested in..
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There is a post on the yogscast reddit from someone who just received the keys. It's still just one person for now, so I don't know if they're trolling.
I'm guessing tiltify is waiting for each charity to give them the name of the contributors (as the money goes directly to the charities, maybe tiltify has no way to know if the transaction really succeeded ? Just guessing). In any case, I'm starting to doubt I will ever receive the games.
EDIT: two posts now, and a confirmation by two other persons in these posts.
Seems in particular there is a problem with the key for Waking: https://www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/k5sk38/so_i_got_my_keys_and_ran_into_a_small_odd_problem/
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Disappointing choice of platform they went with this year. At least Humble has a website that is working reasonably well and your money does not just โdisappearโ only to hope that you get some sort of confirmation within two days. I really cannot understand why they are not able to send some form of immediate receipt that the donation was received and if a reward was selected.
It seems like somebody is doing the bookkeeping manually on this...
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I paid with Paypal and it's very clear from the receipt I have that the money went directly to the charity (the receipt only contains the name of the charity and the email address of the charity). So I suspect some back and forth between tiltify and the charities is needed, and why tiltify cannot give you some confirmation until your payment is processed by the charity.
I'm offering this as an explanation, not as an excuse: I understand wanting to switch from HB to something else, but I'm also disappointed like you by this new platform.
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โ๏ธโค๐ Yogscast Jingle Jam 2020 ๐โคโ๏ธ
1 Tier, 35 Steam Items
01 Dec 2020 - 14 Dec 2020
View this bundle on: ITAD - Barter.vg - Lestrades
Useful links
Yogscast Jingle Jam 2020 - Information on reddit
Yogscast Game Jam 2020 on Itch.io
Yogscast' live Twitch stream
VODs on Yogs Live
Original thread on SG
Highlights
๐ IMPORTANT: ๐
Make sure to select that you want the bundle as a reward otherwise you will not receive it!
This is done during the second step of the purchase wizard ("Reward"), after you pick a charity.
Click on "Jingle Jam 2020 Bundle!" -> "Select this reward".
Image guide: select this and then this
The unlucky ones who bought the bundle before this feature was added will not receive keys. More info here.
How to check if you selected the reward
๐NOTE: You will receive an email within 48 hours to claim your bundle!๐
PLEASE wait to donate until the drive officially launches on December 1st, 5 PM GMT. You will NOT get the bundle early. source
No one received keys yet.The keys are being allocated.โ The keys might expire in 2021 (Official JingleJam tweet)โ
Reddit thread about this issue
source1 & source 2
Keys validity
โ = unknown / no info
โญ = unclear answer from publisher, treat as if it will expire.
โ = the key will expire, confirmed by publisher (no dates were provided)
โ = the key will not expire, confirmed by publisher
Thanks to Tecfan for providing this list
โYou will get one out of 4 Among Us Pet DLCs (random)
Darksburg and Waking keys are the same at the moment.This has been fixed, for those affected, the replacement keys were sent in a separate email.Fishing Adventure, Car Mechanic Simulator 2015, Surgeon Sim 2 - DLC Cosmeticย
33.36 USD | 27.92 EUR | 25 GBP | 43.30 CAD | 45.35 AUD | 2550.27 RUB | 220.18 CNY
You will receive a random item from these four:
โ - Game was free at some time and does not grant any CV if given away.
โ๏ธ - Steam is learning about this game, therefore some features will be limited (no card drops, achievements won't count, the game will not give a +1 to your library etc.) More Changes Addressing Fake Games
Retail:
CV:
Charities supported
๐ Note about referrals
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By using these reflinks, SteamGifts will receive $10 for new subscribers, 5% of Humble Store sales, 15% for bundles via the Humble Partner Program.
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Are you interested in knowing other ongoing bundles? Feel free to check out the new master thread!
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RaChartโข Enhancer SG Thread (deleted)
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Thanks to luckz for helping the poll.
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