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Is there any other confirmation? All the news qoute Nashaniva.com. This site claims they have a copy of such order received by some book store. They admit they don't know if there are many shops that received such an order. They don't even say who issued the order and if it came through official channels. Was it just a spam letter of an unknown sender received by a single shop? Without the details it's a little ear;ly to say the book is banned in Belarus.

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LOL. Banning books is so last century. Sad.

Meanwhile, back in the USA where we know how to ban things properly...
https://nypost.com/2022/05/18/biden-admin-pauses-disinformation-governance-board-report

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hahaha nice, could have been me

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POLITICOEurope on Twitter: "Ukraine’s Digital Minister, Mykhailo Fedorov: “We have already won in the information war with Russia ... [and] our capacity to reach citizens of the Russian Federation to tell them the truth will only increase every day./ Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1526967972006449155


AP Europe on Twitter: "Germany's three governing parties plan to strip former Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder of his office and staff after he maintained and defended his long-standing ties with Russia despite the war in Ukraine. / Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1526854990534418432


48 min ago
Setbacks in Ukraine trigger rare criticism of Russia's war effort by Russian bloggers
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-19-22/h_2c4a3688604d3e7c52e7b637eebc3d4e


Generally, Ukraine seems to be winning the information war against Russia and its attempts to disrupt the circulation of information.
We hope that the situation will remain free of internet censorship and that free speech will be guaranteed in the future.
(Beware of any hint of attempts to control information on the grounds of these global conditions.)
📡📞👄📡🛸🛰
💻👨‍💻📧📝📧💻


Vladimir Putin 'weaponising' world's food supplies
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/05/18/vladimir-putin-weaponising-worlds-food-supplies/


Russia is ramping up its activities to starve the world.
There are stories circulating that some of the wheat they have taken has been shipped to Syria.
The disturbing activity related to food hoarding has been seen for several years, most notably in China last year.
Recently, India also banned wheat exports.

Humanity needs to be wary of any attempt to use food as an excuse to overreach or as a card for wicked economic diplomacy.
The only thing we can do at home would be to have a vegetable garden, but since this is the time to do it, we should try it.
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What is ruscism?
Why russia invaded Ukraine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iLpIocmCVQ

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Ukraine has been heroically and successfully fighting for its independence for two months. This is also two months of shame for Russia. The myth about the strength of Russia's Forces is buried in Ukrainian soil. Why is Ukraine winning and what is its superpower?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2VhPDgYxiw

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Is Ukraine winning? LOL!

View attached image.
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Well, it's definitely not russia, so... =)

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26 mistakes of thinking, because of which we do not understand anything
September 2, 2020
Life
We lie to ourselves and don't notice it ourselves. It's not on purpose: that's the way the brain works. But it is in our power to understand mistakes and learn how to correct them.
https://lifehacker.ru/cognitive-bias-1/

Read it, the article is good.
And so, if someone does not see the whole picture, then not always by what is visible, then you can understand about the whole picture as a whole. There are several facts that are not taken into account are actually the main ones, although these factors may not even be presented.

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Purely for information, although there are also analytical conclusions that can be easily obtained by institutions if they want to get this information. The only problem will be that it will be necessary to properly arrange the allocation of funds for this study.
And so you can apply the article itself (those theses that are voiced) to the article itself.

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Rest assured, this is just a special military operation according to the Russian media*. For Putin's self-esteem, there is nothing wrong with losing a special military operation. It's not like Putin is losing a war, he's way above that, isn't he.

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If you know all the plans of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, then voice them. It is impossible to draw conclusions on the part of the available information, in order to get an accurate conclusion, then you need to have all the information, not just the one that is available. It happens that 90% are available and on the basis of this they make a conclusion, but just the last 10% change the whole picture and in fact a different conclusion is obtained, but at the same moment these 10% are not available to everyone, but only to those who need it. Insider information helps a lot on the stock exchange. If we know that this mine will come across a rich vein in 2 days, then the shares will go up, if we know this, we can buy shares in advance to sell them at the peak.

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Don't ask for the date of Putin's withdrawal, I don't know. I'm not even sure that withdrawal will be his decision, he could be betrayed by his own camp, replaced, assassinated or overthrown by the Russians.

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don't they poison their famous people, when they want to get rid of them?

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It was just bad luck. There are no biolabs in Russia, it would damage the image of the peacemaker Putin.

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LOL indeed.
March 27th - May 18th
Ed. Damn, the image became too small. Found higher res by ISW.
March 23rd - May 18th

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You will see!)
And ask the cruiser "moscow" "will Ukraine win?"))

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Ох, сколько лет вы будете об этом еще говорить? :facepalm: Ну да, это ж ведь "единственная" перемога украины за восемь лет сдерживания так называемой "российской агрессии" (но вот только РФ там и не было, до февраля 2022 года -_-)!

И эвакуация "подземной тысячи" (нацистов) из Азовстали - це победа, великой окраины! И не было никакой добровольной сдачи в плен "подземной тысячи", как об этом говорят в РФ, ибо это все, так называемая пропаганда!

Смиритесь! Украина скоро войдет в состав РФ, ну или по крайней мере часть ее, а именно ДНР, ЛНР, Крым (а, он же уже и так наш, я и забыл), Херсонская область, и тд ! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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As soon as the land lease is fully operational, you will see everything!

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О, влажные фантазии! Уже восемь лет об этом в украине говорят, что вот вот, и победим! Но что-то победы не предвидится. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Just wait, and you will see all!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va8VTrNl_xY
Land lease is not the magical bullet. It makes it easier for the US to send equipment without a single senator that blocks everything.

But same as you, I hope for the destruction of the Rus in Ukraine.

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I know, but it give our country chance to win this war!

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Keep fighting the good fight Ukraine!
The free world is with you.

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Thanks!

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As soon as the land lease is fully operational, you will see everything!

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Russia is doing just fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dIjrNwXgrU

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the more inflation the merrier, right?

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ah i see, so it's more like a call for preservance, good luck

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*Russia Gov media
Государственная Дума – Telegram
https://t.me/s/duma_gov_ru

Внесен законопроект, исключающий возрастной предел для желающих заключить контракт на прохождение военной службы.

📍Что предлагается
Заключать первый контракт на военную службу смогут россияне старше сорока лет и иностранцы старше тридцати.

📍Как это устроено сейчас
Сегодня первый контракт о прохождении военной службы вправе заключать российские граждане в возрасте от 18 до 40 лет и иностранцы в возрасте от 18 до 30 лет.

📍Зачем нужны изменения
«Для применения высокоточного оружия, эксплуатации вооружения и военной техники необходимы высокопрофессиональные специалисты. Опыт показывает, что таковыми они становятся к 40–45 годам», — говорится в пояснительной записке.

Прочитать полный документ можно по ссылке.


The Russian lower house of parliament has eliminated the 40-year age limit for "Russian conscription".

 And, as you can guess from the reasons why the change is necessary, it seems that highly skilled personnel who can use weapons have disappeared for some reason from the battlefield.

Some of them may have taken advantage of the system of reward money for surrendering tanks and other weapons to Ukraine.

This may also be a way of filling the gap between the two countries as the war is becoming a protracted one.
Inevitably, the labor force of Russian farmers will be taken into the war zone and will be sharply reduced, so a sharp rise in food costs is inevitable.
It seems that the Russian people will be sacrificed more for a government that has betrayed its people. For the government's extravagance and self-preservation.

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Yeah, pure coincidence that Russia gained this insight right during their first war in decades where they suffer heavy casualties. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Well, if you believe the main staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then the losses are such that the operation should already be curtailed. But as usual, these are exaggerations. But you have to say positive news for your electorate. As you can see. then no one talks about their losses, only about the enemy's losses.

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I'm not sure which kind of "deeper understanding" you relate to people in their 40s having a greater experience than youngsters. But if the Russian military really had to go to war first to figure that out, we probably shouldn't be too surprised about their general "performance".

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i already ignore YOUR nonsene for weeks now

you also seem schizophrenic to me, one time you admit being brainwashed and recognize the special military operation for what it is (a war) and then the other day you just deny everything and tell us the usual propaganda, do you share your account?

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war? air-bombing cities like in WW2? or nuclear bombs like in Japan? LOL
this is special operation, not war.
war never changes.

Blacklists confirms that, LOL

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do they air-bomb cities like in WW2 or use nuclear bombs like in Japan in the many wars in Africa or the middle east? LOL

what blacklists are you talking about?

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peace, brother =)

i just hit enter and got 2 blacklists now =)))

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happens, when you spread russian propaganda

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i mean we (Russians) have weapons for... (war) and we dont use it. that mean its not war.

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i see, you say you use other terminology for calling a war a war

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i mean we (Russians) have weapons for... (war) and we dont use it. that mean its not war.

Just so you know, technically Germany never actually declared war against USSR, as strange as it may sound. Does that make it any less of a war?

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Yeah rly. Re-read what you just highlighted. Do you see 'declare/wage war against USSR' anywhere? Nope, just 'counter the threat with all means'.

For the sake of comparison, here's Putin's speech.

I would like to be clear and straightforward: in the current circumstances, when our proposals for an equal dialogue on fundamental issues have actually remained unanswered by the United States and NATO when the level of threats to our country has increased significantly, Russia has every right to respond in order to ensure its security.
That is exactly what we will do.

Pretty similar, don't you think? :)

Ed. Forgot to add. That's what Declaration of war looks like.

The German Government, consequently, discontinues diplomatic relations with the United States of America and declares that under these circumstances brought about by President Roosevelt Germany too, as from today, considers herself as being in a state of war with the United States of America.

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Yeah, reread it carefully.

Which part exactly? Provide an actual citation of a part that clearly says that Germany declares war on USSR.

As for Putin's speech, what made you believe I missed that part? It's an excuse for invasion, nothing more, nothing less. Here's Hitler's excuse for invasion of Poland for the sake of comparison:

These proposals have been refused. Not only were they answered first with mobilization, but with increased terror and pressure against our German compatriots and with a slow strangling of the Free City of Danzig - economically, politically, and in recent weeks by military and transport means.
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Poland has directed its attacks against the Free City of Danzig. Moreover, Poland was not prepared to settle the Corridor question in a reasonable way which would be equitable to both parties, and she did not think of keeping her obligations to minorities.
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For four months I have calmly watched developments, although I never ceased to give warnings. In the last few days I have increased these warnings. I informed the Polish Ambassador three weeks ago that if Poland continued to send to Danzig notes in the form of ultimata, and if on the Polish side an end was not put to Customs measures destined to ruin Danzig's trade, then the Reich could not remain inactive. I left no doubt that people who wanted to compare the Germany of to-day with the former Germany would be deceiving themselves.
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In this I will take the necessary measures to se that they do not contradict the proposals I have already made known in the Reichstag itself to the rest of the world, that is to say, I will not war against women and children. I have ordered my air force to restrict itself to attacks on military objectives. If, however, the enemy thinks he can form that draw carte blanche on his side to fight by the other methods he will receive an answer that will deprive him of hearing and sight.

The history repeats itself.

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strange for you to understand that Putin behaves like the same?
An imperialistic warmonger, who bullys little neighbouring countries around

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thanks, will add that to the user report because of spam

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Exactly
Nothing strange here about Hitler, it's just a prime example of how war is actually staying a war, despite the fact that aggressor refuse to call it that way.

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Why so butthurt lol? Triggered because "special military operation" turned out to be an actual war and not what propaganda tries to make it seem to be?

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Why wouldn't I? People are killed, and the amount of propaganda lies is off the charts. People have all the rights to know the truth. Does that answer your question?

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No, but that's a small step towards the right direction, which is already more than nothing.

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propaganda? u mean USA didnt bombed Japan with nuclear bombs? umm, okay maybe im brainwashed ye.

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you know exactly what i'm talking about, don't distort
how could that even be russian propaganda, that doesn't make any sense at all

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cheers =)
drink beers? lets drink some and relax =)))

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are you working overtime this weekend?

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yeah right, instead of just ignoring me right away, you just spam your Permalink, if wonder if this is against the rules

the other person, who accused you of things here https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/TYPU1lG was right

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i won't make a report, which will be resolved in 2 months.

Spam. Do not repeatedly post content to increase visibility.

it doesn't matter if seli is an alt or not, i'm referring to his accusation and you're flooding with off topic a lot

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no? you're repeating my post and repeating your link, thats a double repeat and provides no additional value for no other reason then to cause flooding of the thread.

I ask questions to understand your posts better, but you rather not answer them and distort the discussion to flood the thread

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flooder complains about flood, i can see parallels to your country there

i never complained about you not answering, did i? I draw my own conclusions from it.

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Увага, старый пердун совкодрочер всё ещё срёт в треде. Do not reply to Bazilius, he is Z-tard

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yeah, like instead of really ignoring me, you continue with spamming the same thing, flooding further and bother me with spam replies

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"US bombed Japan in WW2 80 years ago so we can bomb any country we want now!"
that's how Putin's vatniks logic works

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Everyone knows USA dropped nuclear bombs on Japan in WW2. Everyone knows what Nazi Germany did, and everyone knows Russia freaking invaded Ukraine in 2022. And we all know they will not stop this war as long as Putin is in charge. He may not care for all the people dying on both sides in this war, but he sure cares enough for his ego, hence there is no way for him to end it at this state.

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thanks for this anecdote, i see making up bullshit has a history in russia

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so will you finally join the Z warriors on the field to prove your heroism? please tell me you will, don't let us down.

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It is simple.
If you don't agree, you are a 🇺🇦 friend.
The 🇺🇦 ally is a non-citizen, which makes his family and relatives enemies of the Russian government.

The world's past history has proven that such a simple "imposition of wartime values" is carried out against "war averse citizens" and that they are forcibly conscripted into military service.
This should not be allowed to happen in developed countries or in modern society. :(

I hope it will not be "fixed(adoption)" as you say.
Unfortunately, if passed, my concerns will come true.

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*Russia Gov media
Совет Федерации РФ поддержал отмену возрастного предела для службы в армии по контракту
https://grodno24.com/2022/05/sovet-federacii-rf-podderzhal-otmenu-vozrastnogo-predela-dlya-sluzhby-v-armii-po-kontraktu.html


*Russia Gov media
Государственная Дума – Telegram
https://t.me/s/duma_gov_ru

Госдума отменила верхний возрастной предел для прохождения военной службы по контракту.

Раньше первый контракт о прохождении военной службы были вправе заключить граждане РФ в возрасте до 40 лет, а иностранцы — до 30 лет.

Новый закон будет способствовать привлечению специалистов востребованных специальностей, прежде всего родственных гражданским, — медицинского обеспечения, инженерных, технического обслуживания, эксплуатации, связи и др. — на военную службу по контракту.

«Нам надо укреплять Вооруженные силы, помогать Министерству обороны. Наш Верховный главнокомандующий все делает для того, чтобы армия побеждала и повышала свою эффективность», — отметил Председатель ГД Вячеслав Володин.


Al Arabiya English on Twitter: "President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree simplifying the process for residents of #Ukraine’s Russian-occupied Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions to acquire #Russia's citizenship and passports." / Twitter
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1529567984808873985


With the passage of the bill, there will be more forced mobilizations in the name of conscription in the future.
In the immediate future, there is a move to issue Russian citizenship, along with passports, around Russian invasions in frontline areas to make them eligible for conscription.

The fact that it was approved in such a short period of time after the earlier concerns is something to consider how urgent the situation is for Russia.💉🐻🏥

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Grandfathers are to fight: Putin signs a law admitting people to the army under contract up to age 65
https://news.yahoo.com/grandfathers-fight-putin-signs-law-100548454.html


Telegram: Contact @tass_agency
https://t.me/tass_agency/137833

⚡️Путин подписал закон об отмене возрастного предела для заключения первого контракта с ВС РФ.


 We are told that we can refuse, but we can only guess what the reality is.
Perhaps Russian citizens will be living on the battlefield all the way to age 65 for men and 60 for women.
 It seems that the time is approaching when those who do not want that to happen really have to act.
After a few months, with no supplies, hunger, or means of transportation, it will be too late to regret it.

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I can only say i dislike war and every war monger. Listen to this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmI_FT4YHU

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Hopefully you hate leaders that cannot compromise, alliances that fund the continuation of death, and the globalist influence that steals power from the rightful owners of countries.

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Globalist installation of anti Russia leadership. The war would not be continuing without continued aid from the new soviet union people call NATO. You can continue being a child when it comes to criticizing your precious virtue signal but without endless funding and backing Ukraine would lose it's right to continue to exist.

Not everyone is going to cheerlead the war you're "winning" while appreciating funds being stolen from them by installed globalist aligned dictators. Hopefully you'll get deleted by a grateful criminal you guys released into this war, that way I wont have to read another line of your spoiled petulant rubbish.

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Big yikes, mate.
So in short, you'd rather see Ukraine succumb to russia's forces, people get killed, raped, country get torn apart, only to save some money. That's some high horse thinking, right here.

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Yes.

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So it's NATO's and not the attacker's fault that the war is raging, because they support a sovereign nation's defese?

Sounds a little stupid, no?

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"Stop resisting and let the rapist do his thing"
This is how that shit sounds.

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I'm pretty sure that's how they wish it would turn out to... Good that it doesn't

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You countered none of my points because it's true. Without backing your leader would have folded.

Also hoping misfortune befalls you for your rude remarks has little to do with this war.

Now you just keep percolating in your filth, pig!

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i see, a hot candidate looking for a ban

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You contribute nothing but trolling. Anyone with eyes can see Q09066930 invited the animosity.

So mind your own business.

Let's keep in mind, you're siding with a user that has promoted DDOSing Russian targets earlier in this very discussion thread. He has no moral high ground while promoting illegal activity.

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while you are using insults, hate speech and express your hope he gets "deleted"

shows who is the real scum here

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Maybe charity cases shouldn't be so egregious in their malice toward others in the future.

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no one understands the twisted brainwashed crap you're trying to say

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his assessment is for the sole purpose of just creating more flood
never answers questions and distorts, when he lacks arguments

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US Senate REJECTS $48 Billion Aid Package For Small Businesses and Restaurants Just Hours After Approving ANOTHER $40 Billion for Ukraine. Our leaders don't align with the interests of the people that live here. The people who support Ukraine in the west didn't know the country existed last year.

I didn't mince words- I'm talking about you, you think you can act rude to anyone who isn't going against their own interests in your favor, so don't attempt to misconstrue my dislike for you specifically. Not "us", YOU.

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So you're ok with illegal activity and you're willing to lie to get sympathy.

Professional victim. I hope it does addle your mental health in these trying times.

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Imagine the savings if Putin didn't attack Ukraine.
You are preoccupied with American politics, maybe you are American.
There's one thing you need to remember, you have the right to protest in America. You can get together with other like-minded people and start a street protest.

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Poor rapists should do their job without resistance, right dear vatnik?

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That's what is happening to America. 40 Billion raped away during a recession laundered through that crooked country.

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yeah yeah, bad America forced peaceful guys like Putin, Hitler, Saddam, Kaddafi and other disctator sнit to attack their neighbors...

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Ukraine is dead weight. it's a debt that will never be repaid.

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wouldn't that count for both sides?

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I don't like anyone that wages war.

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Yes it is a classic anti war song by a great artist.

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Coincidence? I don't think so...

https://imgur.com/g2KQsWU

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the link seems broken

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It worked, thanks

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https://perito-burrito.com/uploads/content_image/6547/medium_443434.jpg
Although according to other data, it is possible to drink in Latvia, but Lithuania and Estonia have remained banned. And Hungary and Slovakia have already filed an appeal. This is not mine, I warn you right away, this is from the Council of the American Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

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Looking like he wants to compete.. pity he didn't think of posting his culture first... maybe we should hold a voting contest - which songs get liked more ))))

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Then 1 obvious question stays - why didn't you just move on after my post?

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Is this a "Russia awareness thread"? Sorry, i didn't notice......
Do consider making your own threads (even topics) to admire art.
Whatever the outcome, one certain thing follows - the 2 cultures get massively separated for good.

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Your nostalgic resentiment is understandable, still i hope you make your own thread and see how much interest it gets.

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Ukrainian culture has no need to be preserved by any other nation, it's well enough in Ukraine.

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ukrainians do not preserve anything. even before the war, the whole countrie was a shithole with starving people. ukraine got millions and billions of euro and doller every year from a lot nations, even from russia, but none of that ends up, where its supposed to go. just the corrupted rich people got that money.

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I was going to say the same about russians!

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At the very least we have asphalt in most villages, and toilets inside the house. Better than great almighy russia =)

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You perfectly described the Rus.
90 Billions a year from Europe alone for gas and oil and I have seen Russian soldiers talk about the shitholes they live in.

Clean up your own house first before pointing fingers at others.

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yeah, cheap as fuck oil and gas, while uktaine gets the money just because ...

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Not just because...
Just because you can't see the reason they get the monies from Russia doesn't mean they get the monies just because...

And if the oil is too cheap, raise the price.
Supply and demand theory.

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"more than a years" - mind your grammar, hard to understand your blabberings.

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What a load of god damn fucking bullshit.
I might be open to discussions on your views on war and west-east relations. But stop propagating this kind of bullshit. You don't respect other country history and culture.

https://neatkariga.nra.lv/izpete/341344-krievija-demontets-piemineklis-latviesu-strelniekiem - last year you already took down a monument which was in memory for our rifleman who fell fighting. At least stop lying about this. There is not the ENG or RUS version of this article, but if anyone is interested, I suggest using DeepL for translating it.

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At least I am not trying to push on you some bullshit about how we respect everything.
Also you made this happen - you invaded a sovereign country and started a war that has ruined economy and probably started a famine in a lot of countries.

Until now everyone was content with other people celebrating their own traditions. How can you not understand this. We have Russian politicians, Russian activist groups, everyone was fine with Russians celebrating their own holidays (including 9th of may). You attacked and invaded Ukraine and everyone finally realized you are no better then Soviet Union. This is expected retaliation after years of spitting on every nation that lives nearby.

The more you destroy Ukraine and try to act like its wests fault, the more your presence will be eradicated in western world (you made it happen no matter how much you try to make us look bad). The political group that represents the Russian people in Latvia has been trying to rile up Russians by telling how our government is against them. All you and these ass licking political parties filled with brain dead fuckwits who have wet dreams of soviet union will achieve is hatred towards yourself.

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Бесполезно что либо писать. Даже на фото скажет, что это фотомонтаж, хочет слушать только тех, кому верит, остальные провокаторы, если говорят совсем другое или не подобное. Есть тут несколько кто просто не хочет принимать другую точку зрения, хотя часть хотя бы готовы выслушать, пускай даже не поверить, а это тоже многое.

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1:1 and can be applied to you both as well

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So let's fix it, just without falsification, and go ahead, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will accept this data with pleasure. Then they will do this to the soldiers, no, they will not give it to the civil court, but the military court will take off 9 skins after that, depending on whether there are 10 or not yet grown, and if it has grown, then it will also.
Azov, even when reporting on a foreign information channel, which was taken (with permission) from Channel 1, the entire swastika was cut out. https://www.1tv.ru/news/2022-05-21/429314-operatsiya_po_osvobozhdeniyu_zavoda_azovstal_v_mariupole_uspeshno_zavershena this is what the report was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw2fB9RCHVs is similar. Here the rhetoric has already begun to change, this is no longer "Evacuation", but "Surrendered prisoners" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQXNswj6_4I
https://smotrim.ru/article/2756439
Go ahead, tell Poland and Hungary that the judicial system and values. After that, I am ready to listen to their answer, only a truthful answer.
And I write for the reason "Someone is wrong on the Internet."

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Jut drop trying and say "fuck you I'm out" to another Z-ombie. They can be cured in trenches, better dead.

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мне похуй, у тебя в профиле написано роzzия, твоё мнение приравнивается к говну

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Да, не умение слушать своих соотечественников это сила.

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я тебе не соотечественник, мудло

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Не про меня был разговор, а про ролик, который по ссылке. Там интервью как раз украинца или Вы уже не Украинец?

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Мужик там как раз говорит против того что ты тут высираешься. Он за сохранение жизней солдат. А ты Zа военные преступления парашной армии орков.

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It would be necessary to formalize it more correctly, otherwise it goes as if by my statement, and not by the "Point of View" channel.
And so you can't say that a journalist has done a bad job, there is no such thing in journalism. The work is either done or not done. If during the survey I received the wrong data that I wanted to get, then either the survey took place of those who did not need to be interviewed, or in fact the survey is lying. Usually they make a montage and just bad statements, if there are a lot of them in volume (and they are interviewed, not 1000, but about 2000, although then they can say that they interviewed 1000, although it is easier to go to the place where you can get those who need to be received more often), then they simply cut out, showing that a survey was conducted individually with each of them. And the percentage between regions may vary. Usually they just publish average data, but at the same time they are different. It's like the average temperature in a hospital. It seems to be an indicator with which you can work, but you need to look more pointwise.

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Well, here, in fact, the journalist prepared for one scenario, and another scenario occurred. And if the interlocutor can argue argumentatively, and with the presentation of evidence, then it will not be very possible to convince him. Everyone sees from their own point of view and seeks to impose it on everyone else.
So in fact, the journalist did not do a bad job on the interview, but did a bad preparation for this interview. If you stay in the same environment for a long time, it will soon seem that everyone around you shares this point of view, although this is not the case.
And so I saw another interview already with Ukrainian journalists who took it from the people on both sides of the river. On the one hand, they were communicating with them on the move and 80% agreed, but when crossing the bridge, they were simply sent in Russian with the explanation that it was useless anyway and they had their own point of view, which they did not see or said they did not want to communicate.
And this video was posted in order to plant this guy from Rubezhny. The video and the appeal to the SBU that this is a signal that there are such people.

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where your soldiers are pillaging, raping, torturing

We have been asking for this for a long time, come on, you can immediately send it to the prosecutor's office. Not a mounted video, but as it is. If you think that this will be let down on the brakes, then there is a mistake, measures will be taken. And there will be a trial on this occasion. And if the munition has a number, then the number of this munition that got into the apartment building.

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хуя ты дурак, я думаю твой мозг смонтировали лет в 5

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Показатель того, что 99% роликов о преступлении обыкновенный монтаж или били сами ВСУ. Но это не секрет для всех, хотя часть смогли убедить. Т-64 снят с вооружения в России, но в потерях они есть. Правда тут случайно ролик увидел, как солдат ВСУ баллончик с белой краской в бочку горящую кидал, теперь понятно откуда эти Т-64 у России.

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пошёл нахуй

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Когда возразить нечего, то переходят на ненормативную лексику, в надежде, что противник капитулирует. Это показывает, что других аргументов нет и приведённые доводы реальны.

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пошёл нахуй ватан, с тобой говорить противопоказано

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And its okay when you do it ? How about that fabricated bullshit about how we disrespected the 9th of may here ? With the tractor and that shit ?

Somehow missed the fact no one was against people bringing the flowers in the first place. And how Russians themselves got aggressive the next days. But of course your state controlled media is so perfect at showing whats going on outside of Russia. Grow up.

Also its not "shifting blame". You are unable to accept consequences. It boggles my mind how you can so arrogantly deny Russia has done any wrongdoing. If you abuse others expect to have retaliation.

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Yes the video had tractor cleaning up the flowers. And that makes Russians oppressed here how exactly ? Its out of context hate mongering propaganda piece. Again.

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Poor poor Bazilus
How are you going to survive this horrible injustice and oppression against your people

You still haven't drawn parallels with how Jews where treated by Nazis.. Surprising seeing what kind of bullshit you are being fed.

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russian soldiers are bombing our cultural sites, and even stoop as low as to burn our study books on history and literature. Kind of says something, no?

Soviet era had some good times, but Ukraine has felt a lot of pain over that period, so it's not unthinkable to want to forget that. Now, it might have ben better to not destroy the statues, but rather take them to storage and then propose to give/sell them to those who want them (most likely in russia), but alas, this is not happening.

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I got this not from history, but from my own relatives (dead now) who were present to witness the atrocities. This is not some textbook bullshit, this is what people have experienced themselves, in real life. So no, I'm not believeing you, sorry.

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Thank you.

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Above link. Buryatia, Karelia. It’s difficult on the phone, in the evening, if I don’t forget, I’ll make a link.

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https://youtu.be/K2-Tz_2Il_I I hope that this link is not blocked in different countries. And so this is the song "Field, Russian Field" and the author Yan Frenkel performs. If the block, then I will add "Cranes" in his own performance. https://youtu.be/vkHz60M93HY

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It's not interesting, nor relevant right now, so how could it get "more interesting" afterwards?

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The song is unchanged, but the performer is more interesting. The Song and Dance Ensemble of the USSR named after A.V. Aleksandrov, now the Russian Army.

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The fact that soviet culture made it's best (almost tore it's ass apart) to "integrate" ukraineans is quite obvious, that is a part of moscow's propaganda discourse "ukraine is a part of russia". This course failed completely nowadays for good.

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Well, if they were banned, as a bunch of opponents say, then this would not have happened. They were not banned in the USSR, there was no ban, as there is no ban in Russia.

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no ban in russia, haha, i guess facebook and twitter banned themselves

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I believe that the Western media are available to you and you will be able to find the reason for blocking these resources yourself, if there are difficulties and you cannot find them, then contact again and you will find it. But after that I will understand that you do not want to look for more sources and blindly believe only the source that you have chosen.

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my point is not about reasons, sources and the other stuff you mentioned
it's about your statement, that there is no ban in russia, it's only a special blocking operation, right?

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i repeat, my point was not about reasons, sources and the other stuff you mentioned

why you guys always distort and deflect?

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Then it's not clear what you want from me. There is no ban in Russia on other languages. Just if you say something, then attach the source from where you got it. And if it's about the Echo of Moscow radio company, then the broadcasting languages were indicated in the license, if you broadcast all day in the language that is not included in the license, then naturally there will be a fine.
Why a bunch of news agencies are silent, if they spread information from an unverified source (lowered from above), they will be fined.
So write in full, and not just about the fact that there is a lock in Russia.

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If there is a ban on something, then this ban goes through the court, they will not impose a ban without a court, only after the court a list of sites is formed by Roskomnadzor that should be blocked.
If news agencies spread hack work under the guise of news, then these agencies are removed. You may not believe it, but it's true. CNN, Reuters, The Sun is available for viewing.
And there is also such an inscription "Some materials on the Internet may contain false information. Please be careful."

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That's bullshit and you know it just like I do. It was that way long ago, when it was just created, but since then RKN gained an authority to block any site without a court.

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If you want to believe it, then believe it. Anyway, I won't be able to convince you and everyone will remain with their opinion.

  • The blocking is carried out according to a court decision that has entered into force on the recognition of information prohibited for distribution;
  • according to a court bailiff's decision on restricting access to information discrediting honor and dignity;
  • by the decision of the executive authorities authorized by the Government, including:
    1 Ministry of Internal Affairs
    2 Rospotrebnadzor
    3 Roskomnadzor
    4 Federal Tax Service;
    5 Rosalkogolregulirovanie;
    6 Rosmolodezh.

It is also logical to include the prosecutor's office among those responsible for blocking. But it does not have independent powers to add sites to the register, but only conducts monitoring to identify resources that disseminate information for which criminal or administrative responsibility is provided. Its distribution in the Russian Federation is prohibited (Clause 6 of Article 10 of Federal Law No. 149 "On Information, Information Technologies and Information Protection"), and on this basis the prosecutor's office files an administrative lawsuit. The specific decision to block the site is still made by the court.

What can I get a "block" for?

The legislator tried to exclude outright lawlessness and total Internet censorship by defining a specific list of types of content for which the site can receive a "black mark". At the same time, a specialized body is responsible for each specific type of content. For example, the FSSP will not be able to block a site that distributes alcoholic beverages – this is only the competence of the Federal Alcohol Regulation Service. As for the reasons for blocking sites, including the distribution of content (Part 5 of art. 15.1 Federal Law No. 149): aimed at propaganda of war, incitement of national, racial or religious hatred and enmity, as well as information for which administrative or criminal liability is provided (for example, information on the sale of state-issued documents);

  • created by foreign media performing the functions of a foreign agent, without indicating that the information is distributed by such a person (court);
  • on methods and methods of creating drugs, places of their acquisition, cultivation of narcotic plants (Ministry of Internal Affairs, Roskomnadzor);
  • about methods of committing suicide and with calls for suicide (Rospotrebnadzor);
  • with pornographic images of minors (Roskomnadzor);
  • with information about a minor victim of illegal actions (Roskomnadzor, Rosmolodezh);
  • on gambling, lotteries on the Internet (FTS);
  • on the remote retail sale of alcoholic beverages, the distribution of which is restricted or prohibited (Rosalkogolregulirovaniya);
  • aimed at inducing minors to illegal actions that threaten their life or health (Rosmolodezh);
  • defaming the honor, dignity and business reputation of a citizen or organization (FSSP).

Medicines that are forbidden to be sold freely, but they are more attributed to narcotic drugs, which they are mostly not.

https://pravoved.ru/journal/dosudebnaya-blokirovka-sajtov/
https://zakon.ru/blog/2021/8/23/sudebnaya_i_vnesudebnaya_blokirovka_sajtov_kak_izbezhat

Лучше читай на русском, всё равно прекрасно его понимаешь. Обзоры показатель. Там лучше. А если сайт заблокировали, то надо уточнить. Может из-за пиратского вареза, это по суду и делают.

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I re-read my comment and found it can be interpreted wrong way, I should've specified further what I meant, sorry.

Back then RKN had no authority to block a specific site unless there was a court decision regarding that very site.

However, right now it is possible. That's just the most recent example I can think of. Right now if RKN suspects there is a piracy, pornography, drugs, 'discreditation of Russian armed forces' or any other thing from the list, they can block the site without a court decision regarding that specific site. And that's not just some mistake, this is happening on a regular basis.

I think it is also worth noting another thing, not directly related to RKN and court relations, but rather to how 'professionally' they work.
https://yt3.ggpht.com/, Google's hosting for images for profile pictures and community posts on YouTube. It's unavailable from Russia, but it's not presented in RKN's registry. But Roskomsvoboda has a record and the blocked the whole hosting site instead of one mentioned image.

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Перечислены те каналы в данной статье, которые все являлись иноагентами. Проблема в том, что если иноагент, то у него нет свободы, он вынужден писать то, что скажут. Причём это поняли при выборах в Беларусь и США. Лукашенко поливали, а вот Байдена даже не цитировали, вот как раз в этот момент и стали на них смотреть меньше.
По поводу требования писать только из официальных российских источников. Его нет, есть другое требование. Если нет источников, то берёшь российские и их брифингом, а если не хочешь, то сам посылаешь корреспондентов и уже на основе их репортажей делаешь публикацию. Надо точно знать где снимали, кто снимал, и что сняли.

The channels listed in this article are all foreign agents. The problem is that if a foreign agent, then he has no freedom, he is forced to write what they say. Moreover, this was understood during the elections to Belarus and the United States. Lukashenka was watered, but Biden was not even quoted, that's just at this moment they began to look at them less.
Regarding the requirement to write only from official Russian sources. It is not there, there is another requirement. If there are no sources, then you take the Russian ones and their briefing, and if you don't want to, then you send correspondents yourself and make a publication based on their reports. It is necessary to know exactly where they filmed, who filmed, and what was filmed.

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I see, nitpicking and offtoping. Like I said, Meduza's site or name isn't listed in the court decision, yet they have been blocked nonetheless. Why, if RKN allegedly can't ban anyone on their own without a court decision beforehand?

Still, I can address your remarks regarding their publications and how the publish them. Whenever they post something related to this war and they themselves can't check how trustworthy that information is, they put a really fcking big note at the bottom of an article.

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Yeah, no ban.... just occupation of their land )))

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbwls1iJLWw&ab_channel=CNN

Russian officer that just quit Putin's war.
Him and others like him will be the hope for a future Russia.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-23-22/index.html
And the opposite kind, the disgrace of Russia.

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...and you always do exactly that!
For example yesterday's "foreign journalists in Mariupol" turned out to be.... not journalists!)))

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'russian' and 'lie' shall be synonyms for sure

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Heigl Putler!

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No, im a proud fascist!

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Make it safe for people to share such opinions in public and you'll get to know the people. But victim-blaming is the modus operandi for you and Russia. See Ukraine.

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I'll interpret your whataboutism as admission that Russia has the previously mentioned problems. Thank you.

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Irrelevant knowledge for the topic, with the only purpose to deflect. And I'm sure that you are sad as your cheap tricks don't fool me.

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надо тебя внести туда кста, больно громкий. Нет треда про руzzких и срешь в Украинском? Может тебя обидели чем-то?

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https://youtu.be/oI3uWlUH0YU What shall we say about this, Ukraine no longer exists and there will be Kiev Voivodeship, Lviv Voivodeship and other provinces, or will there be Ukraine?

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https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20220523/1034007635.html There will be no borders between countries. There are simply thoughts about the fact that there will be no country. If it's not, then I'll be happy.

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How low do you fly that you long for some other country to dissolve =) Could have dreamt of bigger things, you know

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Read my post again, I'm just against the collapse of another country. There is a suspicion that Ukraine will not be and it will enter Poland. That's what the post is about.

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Actually, there is no fear. In 2014, they realized that Ukraine would not be in the state it was in. After the signing of the Minsk agreements. Here they are (from the OSCE website) https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/5/b/140221.pdf . If you read them carefully, then after that it becomes clear that Ukraine was sentenced to partition.

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I hope so too. And so the European Union with the EAEU (oddly enough) and what they signed are slightly different things, which is where the question arose. One side is in the EU, and the other is not, that's the question of how the border control of those who travel will be carried out.

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a wise man , once said:„In times of crisis, intelligent people look for solutions, idiots look for someone to blame.“

not many people here, look for solutions.

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Neither are you, brother. Unless callnig names and getting angry is your idea of a "solution" ;)

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the solutions is pretty easy, Selenskyj should surrender and ukraine commit to neutrality. would save a lot lifes and help the world in a whole. but sure that would hurt the feelings of people, who won't help anyone at all. but sure, im the bad guy for letting a ukraine family live in my small apartment for free, and working daily to get their paperwork done, again for free.

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Why shouldn't Russia stop its offensive and pull out ? Why is it Ukraine that has to give in ?
Yes - that is a solution. But why this ? Just because ? ...

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why? because the warsaw pact

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And how about Budapest memorandum ? Russia can break deals and others cant ?

If everyone wants to join a military alliance to feel safe against you, maybe... just maybe... its your fault not the one who wants to get rid of you.

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Or maybe everybody else got invited to the party except that one unpopular kid.

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There was no real political will from Russia to integrate into NATO like ever. Also it's not like Russia was left out. I'm sure you've heard about Ostpolitik. The whole idea was to try to integrate Russia into the European economy as much as possible with the reasoning that economic ties will incentivize Russia to play nice and make military conflict too costly. Even after annexing Crimea they got away with some weak sanctions and projects like Nord Stream 2 trucked on.

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Because this way he will be able to pretend he's a victim

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Well, more precisely, until 2014, and then in connection with the military coup, when Crimea left, due to the fact that he dreamed of the Soviet Union and thought that in Russia this Soviet Union would receive. That's when the fuss started. And they did not agree due to the fact that Ukraine wanted to get into the EU and get into the EAEU. After buying cheap in the community with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan, and selling expensive in the EU, as well as in accordance with the preferences to buy cheap in the EU and sell expensive to the Customs Union. So we didn't agree.

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I have some questions about those polls. I'm not convinced that they prove that Ukraine would have remained neutral. There's a significant jump in pro NATO opinion between Oct 2013 and March 2014, but no data provided for that period. I'm assuming that represents a upward swing in western Ukraine, but I wonder if the numbers are subsequently skewed even higher from May 2014 onwards because Donbas and other portions of eastern Ukraine were not polled. Is that possible?
I've been wanting to ask you - why is Donbas never discussed on this thread except in the context of Russian infiltration and influence? It's like the elephant in the room. In my part of the world we get no news or opinion coming from the people who live there. At times it seems like they have no voice in this conflict and yet they seem to be close to the root cause of it. They are thought of as dupes of Russian propaganda with no agency of their own, when they are thought of at all - at least in my country. But I think that recognizing and coming to terms with their situation is pivotal to finding a peaceful solution. Wondering what you think.

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after that it was pretty much unsolvable as long as Russia denied everything and refused to cooperate on solution (but Russia says the same about Ukraine).

Russia did not refuse to cooperate, it was just that there were sanctions for interfering in domestic politics, so they did not get into the state, so that there would definitely not be this interference. Why did they constantly talk about agreements with the LDNR.

If not for the Kremlin's influence, I am sure Ukraine and those republics could have come to terms with some particular status for them.

And that would be the problem. Moreover, the leadership of Ukraine understood this very well, why they did not want to fulfill these same Minsk agreements for a very long time. The link to them was given above. If they are carried out, the collapse of the country will be inevitable. Some regions will also want a special status.

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They are unsigned and condensed. There are 5 pages. Link to the OSCE website.

Yes, he denies that there were no officials in Ukraine. Why did they say negotiate with the LDNR, but Gunpowder declared them terrorists and did not want to negotiate, and his position is understandable. And so, sanctions were imposed on Russia regarding interference in another state and they said that if there is peace between the LDNR and Ukraine, then the sanctions will be lifted, offering to interfere in the affairs of another state, for which sanctions have already been imposed. Here everyone is trying to figure out how to do it. Intervene in the affairs of another state, but do not interfere.
Now maybe. But when carried out, peacefully, this is the main thing, the LPR and DPR receive a special status, with their own authorities, this is exactly what these Minsk agreements have, which are not very dependent on Kyiv. What will happen to Transcarpathia after? 99% they want the same thing, and this is the fragmentation of Ukraine.
In theory, all this could have been avoided, but here it’s only my opinion and it can be erroneous, but the Maidan hundreds didn’t have to go, but the negotiator had to go, and then they could agree. But I really don't know how to do it myself.

Да, отрицает, не было официальных лиц на Украине. Почему и говорили договаривайтесь с ЛДНР, но Порох их объявил террористами и договариваться не захотел, причём его позиция понятна. А так на Россию наложили санкции по поводу вмешательства в другое государство и сказали, если будет мир между ЛДНР и Украиной, то санкции снимут, предлагая вмешаться в дела другого государства, за что уже наложены санкции. Вот тут все и пытаются понять как это сделать. Вмешаться в дела другого государства, но не вмешиваться.
Сейчас может быть. А вот при выполнении, мирном, это основное, ЛНР и ДНР получают особый статус, со своими органами власти, это как раз и есть в этих Минских соглашениях, которые не очень и зависят от Киева. После что будет с Закарпатьем? 99% они захотят тоже самое, а это раздробление Украины.
По идее этого всего можно было избежать, но тут только моё мнение и оно может быть ошибочным, но не надо было ехать майданным сотням, а ехать надо было переговорщика, вот тогда и смогли бы договориться. Но на самом деле я сам не знаю как тут поступить.

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all your comments sure mate, everyone can see you're making things up there, like usual, also your final consequence seems very smart, NOT, like i don't seem to care
talking about ignoring and then paying enogh attention to answer with spam each time

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the only thing you offended me with, is your obvious lies, every single comment, bruh

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there is another theory, where Tolkien wanted to look Mordor as dumb as possible, so he puts Orcs there.

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What do you mean condensed? There are two documents, and they literally the same as they are in Russian, just without the signatures.

I just got used to a document with signatures, so I didn't really take it into account, but yes, it's similar.
Просто привык к документу с подписями, вот и не очень учитывал, а так да, это подобный.

Well, I guess that what happens when you do one thing and say some other thing. Unfortunately, Russia did not call things as they were from the very beginning (starting with little green men), making it impossible for everyone to understand what is really happening and then how to negotiate.

It was not official, but the requirement was to enter officially, and many people thought that the Kremlin had power over the LDPR, it is not so, they are on their own. So they didn't really understand. If there is an official appeal, then it is officially either carried out or given an official response, which is exactly what happened. There were answers - "What do you want from us, we are not there." But just promises not backed up by paper in the Russian Federation have already ceased to believe. Too many Gentlemen have used the word before. It is necessary, then he gave the word, and if not, then he took the word.
Официально не было, но требование было войти официально, причём очень многие думали, что Кремль имеет власть над ЛДПР, это не так, они сами по себе. Вот и не очень понимали. Если идёт официальное обращение, то его официально или выполняют или дают официальный ответ, что как раз и было. Были ответы - "Что Вы от нас хотите, нас там нет". А вот как раз обещаниям не подкреплённым бумагой в Российской федерации уже перестали верить. Слишком много ранее Джентельмены пользовались словом. Надо, то слово дал, а не надо, то слово забрал.

I have been to Transcarpathia couple of times. People there have their reservations and opinions, but not to the degree of a separation. That could be possible only with Hungary's invasion just like Russia's one.

After the implementation of the Minsk agreements. Already when the LDPR have a special status. This does not mean that it will be so, but at the same time, if the LPR received a special status with its own authorities and language, and then the DPR also received the same thing. Why can't Hungarians or Poles want the same? They will have an example that turned out. Why not try to do the same.
После выполнения Минских соглашений. Уже когда ЛДНР обладают особым статусом. Это не значит, что так и будет, но в тот же момент, если ЛНР получила особый статус со своими властями и языком, а тут ещё и ДНР получила тоже самое. Почему не могут захотеть того же венгры или поляки. У них будет пример, который получился. Почему не попробовать сделать тоже самое.

Many things could have been avoided. Those were uncertain times with lots of stupid decisions, including those from the government, law enforcement agencies, and people themselves. It all have been an internal matter and should have stayed internal. Anyway, there was no need to dismember the country by force if Russia considered itself an ally to Ukraine and wanted Ukraine to stay neutral. That is obvious - help Ukraine and Ukraine will stay your friend. Neutral and grateful.

This was an internal matter, it was just that people did not talk to each other, but some began to demand from others what others did not really want, and some demanded due to the fact that it turned out to be held in other places. Next, wall to wall, and now everyone is sharpening their teeth on those who are going, and not those who are ready to talk, but those who are ready to wave their fists are going. It doesn't really come out with fists, so it's necessary to take something stronger and now the conflict is getting bigger and bigger. But those who are ready to extinguish it, those are not. No, part of the world had the idea that the Russian Federation would intervene, but it did not do so and the situation did not go as planned.
Это и было дело внутреннее, просто люди не стали говорить друг с другом, а начали одни требовать от других того, что другие не очень и хотели, причём одни требовали в связи с тем, что это получилось провести в других местах. Далее стенка на стенку и вот уже каждый точит зуб на тех, кто едет, а едут не те, кто готов говорить, а те, кто готов махать кулаками. Кулаками не очень выходит, значит надо, что посильнее взять и вот конфликт становится больше и больше. А вот тех, кто готов его гасить, то тех нет. Нет, у части мира была мысль, что Российская федерация вмешается, но она не стала этого делать и ситуация пошла не так, как планировали.

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I have some questions about those polls. I'm not convinced that they prove that Ukraine would have remained neutral.

Well, basically Russia wanted to have their cake and eat it, too. They could have tried to steer Ukraine towards neutrality or the Russian sphere over time covertly but after they invaded and annexed the Crimea and instigated a separatist conflict in the Donbas it was out of the question. You can't keep good relations with a country you are slowly dismembering. That's the kind of trauma that takes decades to move on from.

But I think that recognizing and coming to terms with their situation is pivotal to finding a peaceful solution.

I don't see the way towards a peaceful solution currently. It seems the military conflict will have to play out first. Everyone who was pro-Ukraine there already left the region. I'm sure many of the pro-Russian folks did, too. It was just not a nice place to live not only because of the military conflict but because these separatist statelets are run like a maffia state. Organizing a fair referendum would be impossible. And even if it was possible violating sovereignity of states and redrawing borders like that is a big no-no in post WW2 Europe. Emboldening irredentist claims in Europe is like playing with fire.

Also the importance of the Donbas is in my opinion overstated. This war didn't break out because of the Donbas. It's about Russia viewing Ukraine as rightfully belonging to the Russian sphere of influence or outright as a part of a Greater Russia.

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That's a pretty silly reason. For one because the Warsaw Pact wasn't some alliance of volunteers but a result of occupation and suppression and secondly because it's history.
But if you insist on outdated setups determining today's politics, I'm pretty sure that we'll find many historic milestones you wouldn't favor either. Why not take one of those?

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Well. If you want to substitute "negotiate" for "surrender" and "WW3/nuclear war" for "Warsaw pact" this might start to make some sense.

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I call BS on an Ukrainian family living for free in your apartment and you working for them.
Are your pants on fire?

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my gouverment asked for it and i agreed, to it. but as always. people on the internet know better

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I would pity the Ukrainians having to deal with you, listening all the time how their country should surrender to the Russians.
But luckily, its just a case of shameless chasing of internet points.

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"its just a case of shameless chasing of internet points"

just like everyone, in this forum.
what internet points do i even get? about 50 blacklists a day?
you guys are blinded, by your moral supremacy. not able to see the light in the darkness

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You hand them blacklists out yourself freely as well.
So.
Complaining about blacklists while handing them out yourself???
What a hypocritical victim game are you playing.
Stop being such a snowflake.

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you are the snowflake. as you get offended by the truth. all you can do is call names and be aggressive to sane people.

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There you go being a snowflake again.

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Russia since day one has been blaming everyone around. Evil nazis, evil EU, evil Nato, evil americans. How everyone is to blame expect them. At no point has Russia looked for a solution to this crises apart from offering ridiculous excuses and unacceptable peace offers.

Everyone is to blame according to Russia and they where pushed to invade. The twisting of truth is ridiculous

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for longer than im even alive, media and governments all over the world blame russia for just about everything going wrong in their countries.

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In cold war maybe yes.
If you are talking about countries Russia has invaded or partaken in wars, of course they will be blamed. Just like USA has been for shit they do.

I'd even argue that Germany, UK, USA, China has gotten bigger hate towards them for shit they have done then Russia has in general. How is anyone even surprised Russia is being blamed for invading a fucking country ?

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But...... they were forced to do it... by the means of getting ready to resist! :D

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Wait no, they didn't actually do anything at all.

All they did was start a special military operation to rid a country from Nazis. They came with food rations to free the poor oppressed people from Evil nazi regime ran by a Jew. Its the horrible Azov that has destroyed the cities and killed the people not Russian military. While at the same time protecting themselves from horrible Ukrainians who have managed to be working on nuclear and chemical weapons to attack Russia. And don't forget the pigeons who where trained to bring viruses to Russia.

I mean how can you even blame Russia here. So obviously they are the victim.

And how horrible of west to start proxy war against them. Well at least Biden can't go to Russia now. I think that will show us. I'm already shaken.

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Exactly! That's why we did what we didn't do just because they made us! But we still didn't! So they can't accuse us - no proof lol!

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I do sincerely hope this is your way of joking around instead of actually believing that.

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This time it's different, though. Everything is well-documented, transparent. russia has invaded Ukraine, forced about 6 millions of Ukrainians to flee the contry, and god knows how many to leave their homes and relocate inside the country. russia has caused utter destruction of Ukraine's cities, factories, roads, and cultural landmarks. There is nothing to even discusss here. russia's actions cannot ever be considered even "grey, neutral", not even talking about being "righteous".

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Putin's Russia is just an innocent victim of western governments, right?

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you might be a victim idiocy

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@suicidesurvivor -> a wise man , once said:„In times of crisis, intelligent people look for solutions, idiots look for someone to blame.“

An appropriate choice of citation for those who might feel attacked when you tell them they've done something wrong (like a war, for example).
If I follow your logic, then maybe with his final solution, Hitler was the smartest of the smart people. Hitler may have seen himself as a victim of "idiots" wanting to blame him.

@suicidesurvivor -> not many people here, look for solutions.

The withdrawal of the Russian army is a solution.

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Don't let them bother you.
Have a vampire rabbit :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru__6sQ_bpE

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seems like it's monday and paid trolls are stressed from working the weekend
also this thread becomes more and more like Twitter

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6 min ago
Ukrainian refugees can exchange hryvnia for euros in Germany
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-23-22/h_217227d483ea55ce15aa07e28c087dd7
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"Refugees can exchange a total amount of up to 10,000 hryvnia into euros at participating German banks and savings banks,“ the German finance ministry said Monday in a press release.

"The exchange can also be made in several installments and is to be free of charge. Banknotes of 100, 200, 500 and 1,000 hryvnia of the currently valid banknote series of the National Bank of Ukraine will be accepted,“ the ministry said, adding that the agreement amounts to an exchange volume of initially 1.5 billion hryvnia. 

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https://www.bundesbank.de/
🏦₴ →€

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjevsnCRQ_A The Miners' song. 16 tons. The performance is very good, we enjoy it.

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Russian diplomat quits over war in Ukraine

A Russian diplomat has quit his job in protest at the "bloody, witless" war "unleashed by Putin against Ukraine".
Boris Bondarev, whose LinkedIn says he worked at the Russian mission to the UN in Geneva, told the BBC he knew his decision to speak out may mean the Kremlin now considers him a traitor.
But he stood by his statement which described the war as "a crime against the Ukrainian people" and "the people of Russia".
In the letter posted on social media and shared with fellow diplomats, Mr Bondarev explained he had chosen to end his 20-year career in the service because he could no "longer share in this bloody, witless and absolutely needless ignominy".
"Those who conceived of this war want only one thing - to stay in power forever," he wrote.
"To achieve that, they are willing to sacrifice as many lives as it takes," he continued. "Thousands of Russians and Ukrainians have already died just for this."
The letter does not hold back over his former employer either, accusing Russia's Foreign Ministry of being more interested in "lies and hatred" than diplomacy.
Mr Bondarev is under no illusions that Moscow will now see him as a traitor, but notes he hasn't "done anything illegal".

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You would see something in Russia if the common man/woman didn't have to fear of its own government.
Specially the younger generation,
We all know that the older generations are much more stubborn and hold on to the old ways.

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Here I agree with you :) When you are being pumped constantly with misinformation of how wonderful Russia and life in it is, there is no need to fear the ruling power. Just like dictator and his ruling political force in North Korea. No wonder you admire that psychotic killer who rules your country.

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I know because i live in Russia

So did I get it right? You are being told by Russian government how my government spreads misinformation about your government?
Bold way of saying "No u"

We actually have a lot of Russian government sympathizers. And a lot of people who live with rose colored glasses remembering Soviet Union as some kind of wonderful thing. So I'd say we are living blissfully unware of things that happen in Russia. But the wonderful thing of free media is that state can't hide from us of your governments crimes. Neither they can hide what US does on that matter (or our own govs crimes)

I mean Putin orchestrated the 1999 bombings that killed hundreds of Russian citizens as a false flag. Yet you still lick his balls and believe every word that comes out of his mouth. (and of course, murdering investigators really paints a good picture that Chechens where responsible for this.. sure.. You can just not answer as well, I already know all you have to say is that its all lies of west just like false flags and bombings in Ukraine now)....

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I see you know Bazilus well.
His counter argument is always ... lies.
Just wait for it.

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Its just a saying in English expressing over the line admiration to someone who treats you badly. Not really meant literally.

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Why? Because I think Putin is a fucking cockroach? The fact that majority somehow gobbles down all the bullshit despite the horrible shit he and his political power has done, you still somehow stay knowingly arrogant to all of it and write it down to lies of west could not be named as anything else but ass / balls licking.

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Ну данному субъекту куда лучше видно, то как живут в Российской федерации, не живя в ней. С ним вообще смысла нет спорить. Ведь самые "независимые" СМИ всё подробно рассказывают, правда этих СМИ всё меньше и меньше, но зато остались самые "независимые".

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And what he will get is the promise of a good job with a good salary. But in reality, he will receive pennies (his 30 pieces of silver) and the requirement to constantly attend anti-Russian demonstrations. If he does not walk, then these 30 will not be. Moreover, everyone understands that this is a traitor, and if he betrayed once, he will betray him later. Returning to the Russian Federation is suicide. A person who cannot be hired. But there will still be such, in connection with the former chief Foreign Ministry "What do you want," who now lives in Miami.

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please be more specific and don't use everyone, when you really mean everyone in russia and i don't think even in russia not everyone thinks he is a traitor, so it's more all Kremlin-aligned people think he's a traitor

and why can't he return to russia, maybe because oppression is real there
he just said what he thinks, that's no problem in liberal democratic countries

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No, I'm talking about betrayal, not about the point of view. If you speak shockingly, then you are either pursuing your own goals or imposed goals. It's unrelated. But in this case, this is a betrayal of the country. Some of the cultural figures first left the country, but they said "rest" or "treatment", due to the fact that they planned to return, but now the journalists began to ask and the truth, the truth is not very publicized, was revealed, now most of the people will think whether it is worth going to a performance or a film with their participation, and whether the director is invited or not. And this is money, and there are no roles, then there is no money.

Why not, there are no restrictions. Only with him, none of those who are tied to the Kremlin will want to deal with him, he is "toxic", and these are only private companies not associated with the Kremlin. And if he made this speech, then they will be judged by it.

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There are so many ways to be a betrayer.
Being a betrayer also applies to anyone aware of spreading lies, helping sentence thousands of soldiers and civilians to death, and helping the real war criminals go free.

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I agree with you. American political commentator Tucker Carlson is still doing his job on Fox News despite hating Biden and being friendly with Putin's actions. It's freedom of opinion, something Russia lacks thanks to Putin's oppression.

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There is a problem. They took a media character, not from the administration. As soon as you compare the one from the Biden administration who is in favor of a Special operation and he will continue to work, then your statement will be true, as long as it does not make sense and weight. Artists in the Russian Federation calmly express their opinions and no one blocks them, people just stop going to them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qV5H6zsieM
Some Russian Officers rather shoot its own wounded soldiers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDTW-1_IOI
More of those fires that seem to be appearing in Russia for no apparent reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G6yWdOIVLU
Protesters,
Young men die for old men.
Good to see not everyone in Russia is brainless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G73U0Vu5B3s
Although lots of brainwashing is still continuing by weird host.
She makes the capital mistake that her fearless Putler has made, still believing that soo many people are on their side.
NUTS.

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"Никогда не было так стыдно за страну". Российский дипломат в ООН подал в отставку из-за войны с Украиной - BBC News Русская служба
https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-61551266


Hillel Neuer on Twitter: "BREAKING: 🇷🇺 Russia’s Counsellor to the United Nations in Geneva has resigned. Boris Bondarev: “Never have I been so ashamed of my country.” UN Watch is now calling on all other Russian diplomats at the United Nations—and worldwide—to follow his moral example and resign. 🧵: " / Twitter
https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1528668629482541057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


There also seems to be a reference to the "attempted" assassination of Vladimir Putin.
If you have been in constant contact with correct information at the UN, three months is probably the end of your patience.
The fact that this decision was made by a key official with far more knowledge of Russia's internal affairs suggests that the reality is much worse.🤔

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it's true... I should have posted it there.(´・Θ・`)Oh..

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It doesn't matter at all. 👍

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https://youtu.be/ZcKbUocasd4
It has been 3 months since the war.
I finally made the tractor mini-game into my game. It seems the lockdown in Shanghai really slowed me down.
It's also a part of the free demo version of the game. It shall be free for everyone so that all can have some fun in this dark time.

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