In the first place, if you had such a programme, wouldn't you just rush
I sure wouldn't rush to tell everyone else about it. Reminds me of bank robbers who post details of their robbery on Facebook.
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That's as old as MMOs.
There's always someone with a way to duplicate your items offering to do it for you, and if you give them your stuff, good luck getting it back...
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Really only encountered this new way of scamming :P
I guess I'm not that experienced in getting scammed yet XDDD
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Never fell for it myself, but I've seen it for decades :)
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Reminds me of Runescape. TRIMMING RUNE ARMOR FOR FREE!
lol
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i wonder who falls for these lies...
if i had such a program, first thing i would do is buy a not too expensive item and start farming it in the market, not ask random people to provide them. *facepalm*
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They are targeting the stupid people, no point in wasting time on people with brains. Thats the productive method. And then you have the stupid scammers..
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Consider for a moment how smart or intelligent you consider the average person to be. Then realize that half of the people in the world are dumber than average... Social Engineering is the most trustworthy way to hack because there is no patch for human stupidity.
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I wouldn't even use it because whenever the issue is finally detected I'd be in trouble over silly virtual items... Only thing I'd maybe try would be to get a bug bounty out of it from Valve
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but if i was trying to scam steam i would at least be careful.
not that it would matter, in the end i'm sure they would notice. ┐(ツ)┌
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it reminds me of these phone callers from india,how he writes that you can look up on Yt.
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Every now and then, i get asked to give my valuables so they can dupe . And everytime i act dumb, waste their time by asking them to send me a trade offer for all item, cancel it and asking to send it again , or just afk after they sent an offer. These scammers gets so pissed, they end up removing me by themself xD
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Everyone who write
you can trust me
or
i dont lie
is a scammer.
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5 seconds thinking and u know why that can only be not true. if you have a program to dupe items what holds you to dupe 1€ items and sell them and built yourself up from there. 4-5 times duping and u are already 15€ or so items. so why the hell would you involve someone you need to share your profit with.
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Not really related, but I had a friend in high school who almost got scammed. He was an extremely religious person and he even managed to convert a few people at our school. One day, he was talking about how some random person on Facebook added him and wanted him to send $250+ so he could pay for his medical bills. It was basically another Nigerian Prince. The guy had used religion to get into my friend's wallet. Luckily, I had a few other people and even the teacher try to explain to him that it was most likely a scam. He was seriously about to send a decent amount of money to a random person. Scammers are almost the worst.
Also, if anyone adds me that is under level 10 without notification, they'll probably end up blocked and maybe. Ignored if it's a good day.
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I used to ignore profiles under level 10 but decided against it just in case they had a legitimate trade that they wanted to do, though right now the occurrence rate of that happening is 0% for me xD
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I used to trade, but I got tired of all of the lowballers and garbo bots spamming me with messages and invites, so I just gave up. Good luck though! :D
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I have a feeling that such gullible person deserves it specially when he tries to convert others...
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"In the first place, if you had such a program, wouldn't you just rush to buy a Dragon Lore and start duping it once or twice?"
DUDE MILLION COPIES plz
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if he gets your item - he has no reason to give it back, think with your head. Even if he could duplicate them, why should he give you the free copy that you gave him? =))
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I dont know how you can believe someone so easily, even I doubt on myself (jk) xD
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If every 1/1000 fall for it it out of millions users base... it gets thousands of users falling into it. Most of computer virus infections comes from people falling into such scenarios... or scammy advertisements.
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I would have thought it was easy enough to get items on the game he mostly plays and therein could get enough money from the market without having to dupe. Never came across a scammer aside from email types but i'm going to bet he's just in this to get your stuff.
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Guys, there's a new virus circling around the internet, be careful!
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It's a get-rich-quick scheme. That term's used casually, but as a technical term, it's a class of con game with different variations and patterns. The illicit inventions a common one, especially if you count a betting system or fictional financial tricks as inventions.
A hundred years ago, Victor Lustig was selling "money printing machines" that were more convincing than this. While he was a counterfeiter at times, as well, he would stuff real $100s in his printing machine to let people turn out some samples. It ran slowly, taking hours to turn out one bill, and he said he needed money fast, and was willing to part with the machine for a lump sum. That gave him a reason to involve a third party, the mark, while the digital dupe scam just glosses over that part. When the machine turned out its last bill, the jig was up, but Lustig was long gone. Lustig's most famous for having sold the Eiffel Tower (twice).
Perpetual motion machines and cars that run on salt water don't have the air of counterfeiting around them, but still catch people who want to believe in noble inventors being the victim of conspiracies. If we lived in more agrarian times, it might have been a goose that laid golden eggs rather than a digital item duping scam.
Confidence scammers use greed in two ways, first as an appeal, obviously, but they also use it defensively. Victims blame themselves for being greedy, others see it as a punishment for their greed and take the crime less seriously, and the criminals rationalize their crimes as punishments - everyone tells themselves what they want to hear.
Not being greedy is good advice, but it's not sure protection against scammers who'll offer you a reasonably good deal and still take advantage of you - in fact, a more realistic deal can make you less wary. On the flip side, there are now scammers who make their scams more obvious: there's such a wealth of marks, given the volume of people who can be reached by email, that scammers want to hear from the more gullible ones, rather than to waste their time following-up with a smarter person who will see through the scam later.
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I wonder how many people will actually fall for this... because if people wouldn't fall for it, they'd stop doing it. People fall for quick money, knowing something more about sb else... or access to some picturec, movies and other stuff even not released yet xD
If anybody could duplicate items, he would farm some cheap %^&* and then more and more expensive one. As in any economy game :)
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Ask him to send you an item (or items) of double the value that he is asking from you as insurgence which he can have back when he returns your item + the "duped" item. Which shouldn't be any problem since he can dupe as many items as he wants apparently.
Check and mate Mr. Scammer.
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And then again he could dupe the double value item first so it's free insurence... but then again why to dupe half value stuff? :)
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Duping high value, rare items too many times would actually draw too much suspicion. Duping mid to low range items where the increase isn't very noticeable is much safer. Duping several items would also draw less suspicion than selling a single item or a limited amount of items.
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False? Duping anything triggers similar security measures. Most of checks are automated, if they pass certain level (count, price, frequency) it's queued for manual check or blocked. high value items may trigger check because of price... but low value item may cause check because of number of transactions.
Still if user has double value item, he may sell it, buy two cheap items double them, sell new ones and out of incomes rebuy old item :)
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I was speaking hypothetically, I'm not sure if duping is even possible in Steam (I'd assume not) or what countermeasure Valve has (I'd assume very few, knowing them). My point was it's much more noticeable if you have a large increase in rare items all of the sudden than if you have a large increase in common items where there are already a lot of. There are obviously better ways to profit without involving other people, as others have mentioned as well, if he in fact could dupe items (which I'm fairly certain he could not).
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Well, everything is possible once you find exploit (way to get in... bug in HTTP server, website script, some system controller...), in system and then can prepare proper payload (basically some code, program or action to give you something you want). Metasploit framework is built upon such principle (sets of exploits and payloads to be used/tested).
For human - yes, it's easier to notice. But generally people don't monitor every transaction and for computer... well, those are just numbers. They (computers) can add, divide, multiply, substract, compare... and so on and so on. Even game you play, music you listen, movie you watch - those are just sets of numbers. Somebody needs to set proper filters/rules to monitor transactions (in this case) using computer. Generally those filters on numbers tend to monitor number of transaction (in period of time), value (summary of period and per transaction)... also changes in general behavior (for example last month you made 10 transactions, this month you made 10 000 transactions). It's just extracting data from database based on proper query. Same goes for banks, police, taxes, ...
Without knowing those queries you don't know how to trigger them. To prevent scammers, cheaters (VAC bans) and other malicious users to know how those queries works: bans, reverts in history, cancellations etc. aren't applied once problems are noticed but from time to time (they don't know which action in last days, weeks, months triggered admin actions). Well, banks tends to act faster :)
Edit: but yeah, it was 100% scam in this case :)
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One of my favourite videos, ever ^.^
This guy has earned my eternal love ❤
Not exactly fitting for your case, but I guess you could find it quite entertaining >3 And there's even a second video :D
This is what happens when you reply to spam email
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Came across this Harry dude on Steam, having added me on steam. In the first place, his name history has [OPSKINS] Bot #0050, which is already highly suspicious, but whatever.
He went on saying he could dupe Steam items (clearly violating the Steam's TOS), then proceeds to show me 2 examples (with cheap skins, though). They could possibly be bought off the steam market, or traded from an alt account, but I didn't pry.
Proceeds to desperately ask me to give him Steam items so he could dupe them, so both him and I could make some money. (Apparently he'll dupe the item twice, then send me my original one, 1 week after the trade hold he'll send the duped one to me as well).
In the first place, if you had such a programme, wouldn't you just rush to buy a Dragon Lore and start duping it once or twice?
Plus, there are multiple flaws in his conversation, but I'm not going into that :P
Here's the chat link if you want (it's on Pastebin): HERE
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