Overpriced?
Not surprised the season pass is so expensive if it includes all the extra costumes. The Japanese really like charching ridiculous amount of money for those.
It's also the main reason why Street Fighter V's DLC totals at over $300 & Onechanbara Z2's DLC is 1.5 times the cost of the base game for example.
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On one hand: Yes, it is expensive.
On the other hand: would you rather get that like 100 skins through 2-dollar lootboxes where you are most likely paying 500 dollars to finally get all of them?
Games are not 60 dollars, not for many years. Paying 110 dollars for a game is a fairly decent price nowadays. I have to admit though, 170+ feels quite ridiculous, but fighting games are a niché genre and those knds of genres often have people who are willing to invest 3-5 times the normal prices for a good product.
Emphasis on "good".
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Sorry for the late answer, was quite busy on the weekend...
would you rather get that like 100 skins through 2-dollar lootboxes where you are most likely paying 500 dollars to finally get all of them?
No, but since when do we justify one bad thing with another bad thing? Also, so far these two additional characters are not available for single purchase. So for someone (like me) who would be interested in having all the fighters, but doesn't care at all about skins, that would mean investing 90€ for just two new guys. That's a problem. It reminds me of how Life is Strange Before the Storm tied the bonus episode to the artbook and whatnot, just so they could get 10€ for an additional hour of gameplay. Only this is ten times worse.
Games are not 60 dollars, not for many years.
I have to disagree with that. I know this is a popular narrative nowadays. But it's just wrong on so many levels.
There are plenty of games that cost 50-60€ in their complete state. If I google recent games, I see stuff like Metro Exodus, God of War, Hitman 1+2, Wreckfest, Dirt Rally and many more. The general statement that games do not cost 60€ anymore is simply wrong. There are more than enough examples.
And even the games that are critizied for microtransactions usually offer a full experience for 60 bucks. For instance Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Yes, they offer all sorts of skins, weapons, even XP boosters. You can sink a lot of money in that game. But does that mean you don't get a full game for your money? No, it does not. I played through the campaign. It was so unbelievably full of content. Took me 70 hours to finish the game, and I skipped so many quests. I could easily have spent 100+ hours in that game. It doesn't even matter how much extra content they sell or might sell in the future, I got a full game for my 60€.
There are of course examples where it's the other way around. No doubt. We all know of at least a few games that sold day-one DLC that could easily have been in the base game. But in general most games offer decent value in their base state. Season passes offer additional content, and that is what we should treat it as - additional content. I don't care if Metro Exodus get's some DLC later on. I got a complete game for my money today. How does additional content they sell tomorrow invalidate that?
Not all form of additional content is automatically bad. Back in the day we used to call that expansions. And people loved it. Think of Starcraft Brood War, for instance. Nobody thought their original Starcraft purchase was incomplete, just because BW came out later. Additional content can be a nice thing, as long as it's meaningful and decently priced.
Sadly, that doesn't happen too often nowadays. DoA 6 is a perfect example. I consider a 90€ season pass with just two new characters (that could have been in the base game) nor meaningful neither decently priced. And I take issue with it, because it's so far off the norm. Because games usually cost 60 bucks and I am not used to paying more than that.
The only thing we can do is either do not buy the game at all, or to just buy the base game. Which I am always advocating for. Way too often I read here and elsewhere how people want to buy the Deluxe Edition, or the Gold Edition with Season Pass (that doesn't even have any content yet on release). Just stick to the base game, guys. I also find it sad to see so many people fall for this "complete experience" narrative and go for "Complete Editions" a year after release. They think they make a good deal. What they are actually doing is further encouraging the publishers' behaviour. Buying a complete edition later for half the price may seem like a good deal to many. But the reality is that at that point in time you are usually still way overpaying compared to the base game, which at that point is usually way cheaper than the complete edition. You are still paying an absurd extra percentage for often questionable content. If everybody just sticked to the base game, we wouldn't be in this mess.
(sorry for the wall of text... ^^)
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Uhm, Metro Exodus has a season pass, so no, it is not a 60-dollar game either, it is a 85-dollar game.
AssCreed Odyssey 60-dollar edition misses a ton of armour, even launchday story missions that were paywalled behind the Gold, Ultimate, Spartan, Medusa, or Pantheon editions. Even further from full game.
Hitman 2 has a 40-dollar Expansion Pass full of missions, maps, weapons.
Dirt Rally 2.0 has TWO season passes with cars and tracks, plus a Deluxe Upgrade pack that has its own exclusive cars. ANother 30 bucks on the 60 starting price.
God of War is one of the few actual exceptions, since Sony could afford it. Some of its other sponsored/developed exclusives also have this benefit, this is why everyone and their mother mentioned this regarding the Spider-Man game. It has become so rare.
The age of expansion packs is over. We are lucky if we get a 30-50 dollar season pass that has expansion pack grade content. The age of free skin unlocks and patches is also over, there is maybe a game per year that still does that. I do not like it either, but unlike lootbox gambling, there is next to zero chance for this model to go away. The only thing that would make it go away is the system Nvidia is working on to sell to publishers, pay-per-view type subscription in cloud services. Of course, it would make playing games expensive as fuck, but it could make DLCs a free content again.
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Uhm, Metro Exodus has a season pass, so no, it is not a 60-dollar game either, it is a 85-dollar game.
The fact that there is additional content planned does not mean the base game is not a complete game. That is my point. Metro is not a 85 dollar game. It's a 60 dollar game that offers a complete campaign of 20 or 30 hours. The fact that they develop more content for the game does not invalidate the base game. If DLC wasn't a thing, you would not get that additional content at all. That's the main difference to games like DoA.
AssCreed Odyssey 60-dollar edition misses a ton of armour, even launchday story missions that were paywalled behind the Gold, Ultimate, Spartan, Medusa, or Pantheon editions. Even further from full game.
That game was more of a full game than most games. This is exactly what I mean. Don't let them fool you into thinking you don't get a full game if you don't buy any of the more expensive versions. What do you actually get extra? A few skins and weapons, and some stupid boosters. Is the game incomplete with that? No. I see this as some additionally developed in order to get you to pay a little more. But it doesn't hurt your experience in the slightest if you don't have it. The base game has more weapons and armor than you'll ever need. I do not see anything about launchday missions on the store page. Was that a pre-order thing? You don't get any extra missions with the Deluxe Edition or the other ones, as far as I can see. Aynway, doesn't matter. The game has hundreds of missions. The amount of content you get is comparable to RPGs like Witcher 3. If you write all you get on a piece of paper and show this to people, everyone will say this seems to be a full game with more than enough content. All you need to do is ignore all the extra stuff they do in order to trick you into paying more. If you really think stuff like the Kronos Pack in the Deluxe Edition adds anything of value to the game, then you are in my opinion mistaken. If you buy the Deluxe Edition or later on a Complete Edition, thinking that only then you get the "complete experience", then you are part of the problem.
Hitman 2 has a 40-dollar Expansion Pass full of missions, maps, weapons.
As far as I know Hitman 2 offers the same amount of content as the first one. The expansion pass is for additional content. The base game gives you 6 very long missions, just like the first one. You didn't mention the first one. I assume since it has almost no additional content and no season pass, you consider it a full game. Then it's only logical that Hitman 2, since it offers the same amount of contect, also has to be considered a full game, no matter how much additional content they sell later on.
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I'm less concerned with the price, and more so that the rigs and animation still look mostly the same as back on Dreamcast nearly 20 years ago. I'd rather see them work on that then design a million outfits so people can play dress up.
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I was thinking about whether I should dare to put this into the deals category. ;)
Well, this is just silly. Not only is the base game way too expensive with 70€ in Europe. But the season pass is actually 89.99€. I don't believe I have ever seen such an expensive SP. And what's in it, you ask? Well, mainly two characters. Two! A ton of costumes as well, sure. But only two additional characters. This beats everything else, if you ask me. 50€ CoD or Battlefield season passes? Bad enough. But not as bad as this. Not even close.
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