Hello. Two days ago I bought Skyrim from them and wanted to give it to my friend from India, but he got region lock message. I'm from Estonia (EU) and there wasn't anything about region lock written there. Now when I want my money back, ROW key or any help, they just send me copy-paste messages. When I started using GMG, it was best CD-Key selling site. Now it isn't, in my opinion.

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As a lawyer with 20 years working with it, I assure that is a HUGE and THICK grey line here. I have thousand of complaints about GMG so i'm not advocating in favour of them, but it's something that I already passed through and unfortunately they are right because of the following points.

I bought two keys in the past that I had troubles (I Live in Brazil and in US): One of them was for my personal use and another one to be gifted. I had a great answer from them about the game i bought to myself (Murderer) but had the same situation with the same game (Skyrim) when I tried to gift.

Facts:
1) Your GMG account is personal and the games purchased there are for personal use. The only exception is when you buy n-packs from them. They can't ban you for buying keys to gift to other people, but they don't need to offer support to it because;
2) Above GMG there are steam rules (you're buying a key to activate there) and publisher rules, which often have several restrictions between countries. Betsheda is great for having the most draconian rules about it (even worse than Square). You're right when you say they should say about restriction to activate the key, but they are not infringing any EU law with it because;
3) When you purchase a key and give to other person, you're already infringing the personal contract with them which says that you're buying for yourself. When you purchase in one country to give to another, you're not covered anymore by EU law because;
4) International laws are above EU laws. When you share the key with someone in another country, you're not covered anymore by it.

In the end, it isn't GMG fault as much I would like to accept. In fact, it's SYSTEM's fault that create all these layers of rules and you need to know where you lie to know how to complain (don't know why, just remembered Shrek and the onion).

IMO you should open a customer request to complaing, but I really doubt that it's something they can solve to you since youre not buying it to your personal use.

regards

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Oh, okay. I'll try to complain, complain and complain :)

10 years ago
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As I said, i'm not defending GMG... I really hope you find a refund quick :)

10 years ago
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Don't be quick to count out your representative, either. While international law trumps local law in the western hemisphere, the EU has been proving itself to be a much different kettle of fish.

Plus, if you never plan to do any business with GMG again, you can try to issue a charge back. Once again, EU companies tend to be quite helpful in that regard, especially if you were never even offered store credit.

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As I stated below, the EU law protects EU interests and, in this case, the consumer didn't respected the TOS from the vendor. If he bought the copy to himself (buy to gift to others isn't to himself) it would be true but unfortunately that's not the case.

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Whether he can sue them due to international laws or not is irrelevant. The fact is, as you stated, that EU law states you have to inform about region restriction. Someone from EU can buy the same copy and complain they didn't tell him about the region restriction. And it doesn't matter if he is just curios, or he's a region-restriction-freak, or only wanna buy games that have no region restriction, it really doesn't matter. As long as they do not provide you with that info, GMG are breaking the law. It's not gray at all.

10 years ago
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You're wrong about it, truly. What you stated can be reversed against you in ANY EU court as misrepresentation. The EU law, by TFEU article 35, forces the vendor to states restriction ONLY between member states. The law is more to protect local economy (like russian area, who have prices way low than other member states) than to regulate what they do around the world.

So, your last argument about complaining they didn't said because you want to know... You just need to ask them before. It is wrong? Not by law, but it may be wrong for you.

10 years ago
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I dont know if its legal or not but you can use a vpn program to redeem it.

10 years ago
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It's illegal and normally can have you suspended or banned from steam. Several people here already got banned, just search the forum. I would not risk my account with it :P

10 years ago
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hue

Research before buying.

10 years ago
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Your link has tag as (RU)

this one ?

Read before posting.

10 years ago
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hi dumbass, he is from estonia. Which is part of the RU region lock.

10 years ago
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No, it isn't. When I buy Skyrim or Skyrim LE from Steam, I get ROW gift. If I buy any Bethesda game I'll still get ROW gift. Estonians can't activate RU-CIS gifts/keys because we aren't part of their region lock. That's why some of my Estonian frieds use VPN (I shouldn't risk with it). As far as I know only Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Republic of, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine and Russian Federation are in RU-CIS region lock. The SteamDB sais that we can buy RU Skyrim. No, we can't.

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onlyallowrunincountries:
RU Russian Federation
AM Armenia
AZ Azerbaijan
BY Belarus
EE Estonia

ok, I believe you

10 years ago
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I was talking about buying, not running.

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Same shit as PurchaseRestrictedCountries
AM Armenia
AZ Azerbaijan
BY Belarus
EE Estonia

and I was talking about cd-keys not steam store game purchases. Unless valve can't properly detect your region because estonia is still part of the RU region lock for steam store purchases

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Ummm... okay. Just Estonia isn't in RU-CIS region.

10 years ago
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too bad, Bethesda classified your country to be included in RU. Cry to them

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So what...? GMG was the one who didn't inform me about it so I want my money back.

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Your fault, you should have know that AAA publishers do region locks. Ignorance is not an excuse.

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Yeah, i know cleaver tiny brain.

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Surprised by some of the responses. The vendor has a responsibility to tell you if the game is region locked before purchase. End of story.

10 years ago
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No, he doesn't. The vendor doesn't region lock the game so he doesn't have any legal obligation to provide this kind of information. The vendor have the legal obligation to provide a working key for your account, and that's not the case.

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Didn't say the vendor is legally obligated. It is irresponsible to leave out critical details about the product you are selling.

10 years ago
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This is what happens when people register on a website without reading the TOS.

Next time read the TOS(yes I know it's long and all, but even I make an effort to read it) or do some research onthe game(ESPECIALLY if it's a Bethesda game). BTW I live in Europe too, and GMG is not infringing any laws afaik. However if you are polite to them and a bit lucky you might get a refun. Good luck!! :)

10 years ago
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As if it was hard to activate game via VPN, lol.

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You may be banned for that :P

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I did also buy Skyrim there when it was 75% off, hoping there won't be regional lock. I am from CIS and I am planning to move to EU soon, so this is the reason why I didn't want to buy it from Steam, even though it would be cheaper for me to do so. Nevertheless, I got the (RU) key from GMG. And lol'd at myself.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't read the ToS as well.

10 years ago
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Log into friends account and activate it, pretty sure thats the safe loop hole, VPN might get him banned, try to get a refund first if you can....

10 years ago
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I think its only allowed to be ran in CIS countries so I think hes out of luck on both options.

10 years ago
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Damn, bummer....

10 years ago
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I stopped buy from them when tjhey deicded to place a 10€ limit to voucher. i can live without them

10 years ago
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its the same with the points I got about 2.54 Pounds worth but i cant do anything with it cause im not in the UK.

i just leave it but your case is bad. id want a refund if i were you

10 years ago
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Chargeback. I used this tactic once and won. Of course I wasn't abusing it - it was for a very specific case where the seller didn't want to return my money despite the goods weren't in a condition we agreed upon.

I simply said to my credit card issuer (local bank) "if you didn't help, I wouldn't pay".

10 years ago
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Maybe you self entitled babies should find out this stuff before you purchase something in one country to give to someone in another country. Use your powers of common sense and forward thinking.

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Stop being such elite prick , no one would think of researching that stuff when games like skyrim go on sales, The guy tried to do a favor to his friend by purchasing the game for him.
GMG should have clearly mentioned in their store page that the cd key provided for the game would be region restricted.
I think a charge back would force gmg to act either by refunding or suspending your account for doing it be careful.

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Sarsbaby is just butt hurt he has no friends who buy him skyrim.

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Lol

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Finally, I got a ticket that isn't copy-paste. If you wish to read it, then here it is:

Hi CARLEST,

My name is *****, I manage Customer Services here at Green Man Gaming. Your ticket has been escalated to me for response.

I have reviewed your account and email history with Green Man Gaming and I can confirm that we have given you a key appropriate for your account and region of purchase. The purchase is not refundable.

We will not respond to any further updates on this ticket or tickets from you relating to the same query.

Please refrain from swearing when communicating with us.

Kind regards,


Green Man Gaming & Playfire
Customer Service

Please refrain from swearing when communicating with us. Oh, sorry, I said What the f(Beep)ck once. Really, swearing would be when I would call everyone of them assholes. So yea, I think that I'll stop using GMG ._.

EDIT: I said the f word 2 times. I'm swearing a lot in their opinion.

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Good lord mate you swore in a customer support request post ?:O yeah that just nullified any remote chance you had

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Once I said What the f... and next time I said Is it f...ing hard to write one message and don't use copy-paste ones

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Dude thing is its written on their terms and policies page that its for personal use, so when you buy it in one country and they send it to a user of another country, that country might be region locked and so will your key be wasted, its not their fault tbh.

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Judging from the link you provided, you bought it from GMG's Eastern Europe shop (EE). Eastern Europe is almost always associated with RU/CIS, which means it'll almost always be locked heavily to only Eastern Europe.

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Well, then that's bad.

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