Are you in the mood to P-A-R-T-Y?
This is slightly above "shovelware bundle" and under "greenlight early access bundle" quality.
Even if i wanted a party game, why would i buy one about american trivia and pop culture?
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It's specifically United States trivia, in the older games, not american :P
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Humble "Lets copy Fanatical" Bundle.
I mean, those other guys have had this on regular rotation for a few years now..
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these games are great, but i'm just missing the older you don't know jacks (also this bundle leaves out party pack 4). if you don't have any of these but you do have friends with smartphones and the ability to show a steam game on your tv this is well worth it.
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If i would be:
1) native English
2) have ppl to play this on parties
i would consider. As both answers are no it is not for me:).
It is niche bundle = for some ppl it will be great for most ppl it is useless.
BTW: lowest average was 5,39 for me (edit: actually it means BTA price was 5,40, as it is beat average by one cent :) ).
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I've been looking for some local multiplayer quiz/party games for a while. I would even take those, but they're all in English only, which makes them useless for local multiplayer. Don't get me wrong, I usually install all my games in English only, but for local multiplayer I would find nobody to play along, because my friends/family etc. wouldn't understand the questions very well. I heard there used to be a German translation for some of the older parts of YDKJ, just not on Steam.
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What is the secondary language they teach at schools in Germany?
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English, but you need to take further things into account like: age, origin (in Eastern Germany Russian was the first foreign school language) and education level. If you rarely need English at work or for a specific hobby, you aren't fluent enough to have fun with these games.
Besides, YDKJ on Steam isn't only English, but the questions in it are focused on the US. Though we already know much about the US pop culture, things like TV shows or not worldwide famous celebs are hard to guess.
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Interesting, what language they used to teach in Eastern Germany? I understand what you said, even tough my country is next to the US I am clueless about most of the questions in this game.
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No, they didn't only learn German. Their first foreign language was Russian. It's also not true they didn't learn English at all, they could pick it as an optional second foreign language later on. But yeah, there wasn't a very strong focus on learning English.
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They used to teach Russian as the first foreign language. That's quite a while a ago, though. But even in West Germany the amount of English taught depends on which state you live in and your personal choices. Here in Bavaria I started off with English as my first foreign language in 5th grade and picked French later on. There also was (and still is) the option to start with Latin, then pick English later or (crazy as that is) pick ancient Greek instead and never have English in school at all.
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I like that they give you the option of learning no practical/business focused languages. Here is usually all English or Chinese. Like, Latin is mainly used for biological nomenclature and I cannot recall any modern usage of ancient Greek. I wish our education system was more like that (we do not even have philosophy in the standard curriculum!)
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I like that they give you the option of learning no practical/business focused languages.
I'm not so sure, if it's wise to give people the option to skip on English entirely. Like it or not, it's the most important language for international communication, so everyone should at least have basic skills. Also, we're talking about school education here, so it's often the parents who decide for their kids and they often make their decision based on what they were taught in school themselves, even though the world's changing.
A good example's a colleague of mine, who chose that her kid should start off with Latin as first foreign language and only learn English later as a second foreign language. So while that's still better than skipping on English altogether, that kid's still missing out on like 3-4 years extra experience learning English, so he really sucks at English (and hates the language as a consequence). He wants to study agricultural engineering later, so it'll help him a lot to know all about grammar and cases in Latin - as you correctly pointed out, Latin is mainly used for biological nomenclature, which might even have some use for agriculture, but school education in Latin is mostly about grammar. The reason why many parents still pick Latin for their kids as first foreign language here, is because they did have it in school themselves and because it's supposed to make learning West European languages easier (as they're all based on Latin). I suspect the contrary is true, as the kids miss out on those very important years to learn a practical use foreign language early on. As for picking Latin and ancient Greek (the so called "humanist" branch of our school system), that's even worse. There's literally no practical use for ancient Greek, unless you love reading ancient texts and want to study ancient history later on. You can't even have a simple chat with someone from Greece, because it's very different to modern Greek.
Here is usually all English or Chinese.
May I ask, where is "here"? Where you're from?
we do not even have philosophy in the standard curriculum!
Neither did we.That's only taught in university/college here.
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Mexico. I understand your perspective, English is important because many valuable information is only available in that language, but I am not fond of a "for business only" education system, mainly for ideological reasons. I also think philosophy must be taught earlier, but not in the common boring way, it should be focused on teaching a student "how to learn", and to cultivate a reflective and analytical mindset. You already get a bit of abstract thinking out of math and physics, so the former is what, in my opinion, our educational system sorely lacks.
Lastly, with the developments of AI and machine learning, language learning will gradually become "obsolete" and more of a niche thing. We will become dependent on real time translation devices which already exist but they are not yet 100% functional and accurate. Kinda sad, but change is unstoppable.
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but I am not fond of a "for business only" education system
Just because a language has its practical uses, does not mean it's for "for business only". For me, learning a language is not so much about valuable information becoming available. First and foremost it's about being able to communicate with people. Also about learning more about a foreign country and culture. Back in school I really hated learning French, until I could participate in a school exchange with our partner school in France. It was great to experience first hand that I could actually talk with my guest family, even with my rather poor skills in French. Now, if someone loves reading ancient texts or is generally interested in old languages, that's fine, I'm just not convinced that we should dedicate an entire branch of the school system for that. I feel that those things should be optional. You may be right about philosophy, though.
Also, I don't think learning languages will ever become obsolete. I took enough translation classes and know enough about computers and technology to understand that context is really hard grasp even for the most advanced AI, as are concepts like irony or sarcasm. And any translation is always an interpretation, there is never only "one" accurate translation. Every translation also carries a touch of its translator and may be different according to its purpose. I really wouldn't want all the information I get to be interpreted by some tech company like Google. For that reason I don't believe language skills will ever become obsolete, to experience things firsthand. That doesn't mean technology will not assist.
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English in grade 5, then we could choose French or Latin in grade 7 (I picked French) and then in grade 9 we would have gotten whichever we didn't pick before. But we moved and the new school I went to only had Spanish as third language option XD
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Not latin as far I can tell (well nowadays)
EDIT: It is a bit more difficult, depending on timeframe, state and type of school ... the usual second language is latin,french,old greek, english or russian ... nowaday usually english ... maybe french ... haven't seen latin for a long time.
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Be sure to let me know how well this mod/translation works for you. I might reconsider and grab this bundle or parts of it after all. But as others already pointed out, it's not just a simple matter of translation. Some of the questions would probably need to be replaced with ones that are more suited to an international audience.
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Okay, that's what I feared. I guess, I'll pass on that bundle. It's just no fun playing all by myself. And I won't find anyone to play along with anything short of a fully localized version. It's kinda ironical, usually I couldn't care less about localization, I have Win and all my other games installed in English and wouldn't want it any other way. It's also strange that the whole local multiplayer quiz game genre pretty much died out with online multiplayer games. I remember back in the C64/Amiga days my friends used to have so many quiz games. On Steam I can't even think of anything else besides the YDKJ franchise and those aren't exactly brand new either.
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And it seems that those games are all about American culture. I just clicked in the middle of a walkthrough on Youtube, and the questions are like :
"In the episode where the Brady family races across King's Island to get Mr. Brady his blueprints, which of these BEST resembles the method they use ?" (A : Paul Revere's Ride. B : The Running of the Bulls. C : The Pony Express. D : The Cannonball Run).
"There was a nationalist who was really arrogant..." (A : ...and Dingo was his name-o. B : ...and Jingo was his name-o. C : ...and Stingo was his name-o. D : ...and Frango was his name-o)
I'm clueless.
Sad, I would have been happy with a quiz game, but YDKJ for a non-American seems harder than a multiple-choice questionnaire about quantum physics.
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Thanks for the information. I am so skipping this one.
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Quite nice bundle for me personally although I can easily understand someone could be unhappy with it too. I was even thinking about buying tier 2 but not for this price. And then I recalled about their dupe keys policy and I was like 'meh, not worth it' :P But it's not bad bundle, as I already said.
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Damn I will start to actually play more of my backlog or what, thanks HB to be dead :)
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Humble Jackbox Party Bundle
3 tiers, 10 games
14 August 2018 - 28 August 2018
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