Have you been waiting for this?
anyone can lists which dlcs are including in these and which are missing?
I would only buy them in bundle if they have all
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Just a note before buying: Check historical pricing of DLCs if you care about them. It's usually cheaper to buy bundles on Steam or in bundled deals on Fanatical rather than getting them separately
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I don't own 6 of them and I bought 5 of them which include just deluxe edition dlc(which is essentially no in-game related stuff and I don't really want it). Leaving out Megadimension Neptunia VII to buy separately as complete package because of how many dlcs it has.
Total cost of these 5 games is ~120 euro for me so it's like buying them with 90% off.
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Just to be sure :P. The games you bought in this bundle had the deluxe dlc ? If it's the case can you tell me which games you bought please.
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Add me as another one really interested if these do offer base+deluxe rather than just base... Which were those then?
(Or do you mean you bought games that only have deluxe DLC purchasable, like the Re;Births?)
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That's what he meant sadly :P. Just bought 5 games in the bundle and it's just the base game.
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Indeed I meant that. I don't care for the deluxe dlcs so just the base game is enough for me.
I already bought rebirth 1,2 and 3 long ago along with fiery fencer f. Now I bought MegaTagmension Blanc + Neptune VS Zombies, Cyberdimension Neptunia: 4 Goddesses Online, Fairy Fencer F Advent Dark Force, Monster Monpiece, Moero Chronicle.
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Since the bundle lasts for a week, I'll probably wait to see what Steam and some of the other stores have to offer for their winter sales first.
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I would have bitten if they aren't all base games and completion (deluxe) would end up more expensive then I save. I'll wait for good bundle sales like Hyperneptunia VII + Deluxe in Humble not too long ago.
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If you're after DLC, you want to wait for "Complete". "Deluxe" is just an artbook and maybe soundtrack.
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Yeah, that's what I want, since most other DLC is just cheat-items and I could do without those.
But from what I can tell these Deluxe are expensive (5 bucks) and rarely go on sale and if so low discounts so I rather catch a bundle than having to buy them seperate.
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And those don't give better bonusses than vanilla clothing?
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No, but you get to see the AIs shaped like pre-teen girls in swimsuits and lingerie...
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Aren't all clothes purely cosmetic and those DLC just add recipes and ingredients for them to grind 10x the normal amount to get. So only bonus would be in our pants.
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Well, I'm playing Re;Birth 3 now and the "DLC" clothing that comes with it has stats, while others from the shop don't but some dropped by special enemies also do. I don't know how that works with VII yet though, hence the question.
I would have to double-check again for Fairy Fencer F Advent Dark, it's been a while there.
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Ah, I guess I haven't paid too much attention so could be wrong as well. I just buy all DLC to support, if they somehow make the game worse by being too cheaty, you can disable the DLC.
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Disabling the DLC can make your savegame refuse to load, so ignoring would be the best route if so :)
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Isn't that only if you started with DLC and disabled mid-game. Another urgent scientific study requires my attention now to see what kind of bonuses they bring.
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Maybe but I am not sure if steam sales will better it. Have to have a think about this one!
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I'm tempted to buy some of these, but does anyone have any idea which ones need the least dlc for a full experience?
To clarify, I don't care about artbooks, soundtracks, extra costumes, or packs that load you up with free starting items. I only really care about dlc that adds characters, levels, story, etc.
So, which have the least of the latter type to buy?
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4GO, Blanc vs Zeds and Action U are the only NepNep games without at least 1-2 DLCs I feel that are needed. (Bloody Stella dungeon DLCs for Rebirths 2/3 tbh. No DLC leads to insane wait times. You can get them on Steam for like a dollar or so though. Also, Rebirth 3 only has that as DLC so you can guess it's probs the most value of those with any needed DLC. Action U DLCs are just meh. Might help with grind if you are crazy about achievements.) Monster Monpiece and Moero Chronicles as well, but I don't have them so no clue about how good are they. Hakuoki are otome novels, so no real interest since lack of yuri.
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I appreciate the insights you've provided; thank you.
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- Hyperdimension Neptunia U: Action Unleashed: You would want to buy both DLCs. Hard Level would spice the too-easy game up, and the other pack is required to unlock all equipment without grinding forever.
- Cyberdimension Neptunia: 4 Goddesses Online: Only Deluxe
- Dark Rose Valkyrie: You would want to buy Dark Rose Valkyrie: Special Enlistment [Miyako Osatani] Addition Pack. Others are Deluxe, costume and boost packs.
- MegaTagmension Blanc + Neptune VS Zombies: Only Deluxe
- Monster Monpiece: Only Deluxe
- Moero Chronicle: Only Deluxe
- Hyperdevotion Noire: Goddess Black Heart: All DLCs are strongest equipment for all characters.
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I appreciate you giving me that breakdown, it's really helpful. Thank you.
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I don't get why you guys are saying that 2.55e is too high for 5 games, even without DLC... I don't see how you get a better deal for these games anywhere else.
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I agree with that ;). It's a great opportunity to take 4 goddesses online.
Just wished it had the deluxe dlc because i really like to have soundtracks and concept arts.
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Well yeah they are games that are DLC-heavy and it's a good addition, but it's not mandatory.
Still the best prices for all of the games in the list...
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They live in countries where that's an average salary, based on earlier threads wondering such things.
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Heh I doubt that's the reason, keeping in mind my own country and salary. :X
I'd rather imply that they might be a bit too much entitled.
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People place different value on different things.
I'd imagine after all your spamming in the female game character thread, that you value this sort of game more highly than others.
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People place different value on different things.
Yeah true, albeit you're way off the mark if you think that is relevant to this topic.
Some people are just over-entitled. Haven't ya noticed the regular complaints about the Humble Monthly?
If you go by the comment sections on Steamgifts, every damn bundle ever is trash with games that no one wants to play...
"How dare they charge more than $1 for quality games that give 50+ hours of content?!?"
I'd imagine after all your spamming in the female game character thread
You thought you added 1+1 together, but things are not always as they seem. I've never played any of these games, I don't play games because of "waifus"/fapbait and I don't like that type of anime culture. Also: https://i.imgur.com/bDSjh3w.png
that you value this sort of game more highly than others.
Yeah the people that came to this thread to explicitly talk about this specific bundle for these specific games don't value them. ;D
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You're right. If someone doesn't feel something is worth the money, it has to be entitlement. It couldn't possibly be that the games don't carry the same value from person to person.
Some people are just entitled.
That I agree with, at least, but it doesn't describe everyone who doesn't like the price of these games.
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You're right. If someone doesn't feel something is worth the money, it has to be entitlement. It couldn't possibly be that the games don't carry the same value from person to person.
Not sure what the sarcasm is about or why you're being conflictive...
I explained to you that yes some people just don't value the games as much as others - you're right on that - it's just that from my observation a huge amount of users here and gamers in general are extremely over-entitled.
The reason why I dismissed what you said in relation to this specific Bundle is exactly what I said there at the end: if they don't care and don't value these games, why are they discussing the bundle and voting on it?!?
Most of the people I know don't care for this Bundle; they don't value the games.
Those that are in this thread obviously are the opposite, otherwise they wouldn't be here...
And if you don't care about these games and are just here to discuss a random Bundle, how the hell can you say that 2.55e for a new-ish game with dozens and dozens of hours of gameplay is "a bad deal"?
To summarize, there are only two reasons why someone would say that "this is a bad deal": they are over-entitled and spoiled OR they dislike anime games of this style... And you guessed it, in both cases the opinions are completely dismissable and hold 0 value (ironically).
Otherwise, if you're objective you'll say that this is a pretty good deal; if you like the games/genre you'll say that this is a pretty good deal.
Not a crazy good deal, but a very good one and objectively the best one available in the market, ever.
What other reason can there be? Someone that is poor as heck saying that this is a bad deal? Sorry that they're poor, I can 100% relate to that due to my life from a few years ago, but that doesn't change that price for the content is objectively low for some "average" gamer.
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Not sure what the sarcasm is about or why you're being conflictive...
Actually, you started with that with "Yeah true, albeit you're way off the mark if you think that is relevant to this topic." What I said was perfectly relevant and in general is more apt than "they're entitled."
if they don't care and don't value these games, why are they discussing the bundle and voting on it?!?
Because some people check all the bundle threads and vote/speak their opinion about it. That's how it works. It isn't just the people interested in a particular bundle who comment. Often, people who aren't interested will comment (check any bundle thread). Edit: In point of fact, you have said you're not interested in this type of game, and here you are.
To summarize, there are only two reasons why someone would say that "this is a bad deal": they are over-entitled and spoiled OR they dislike anime games of this style
Incorrect. They may also feel these games are overpriced. For instance, the only game I want from this bundle (the dungeon crawler) is cheaper on Steam right now than it would be for me to buy the game alone with this "bundle." And that's just one example.
Otherwise, if you're objective you'll say that this is a pretty good deal
There's no such thing as "objective" in this case, due to the wide and varied circumstances and opinions of different people. That's the point of what I said -- and you're failing to see from any perspective but your own. Whether or not this bundle is a "good deal" is entirely subjective.
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Actually, you started with that with "Yeah true, albeit you're way off the mark if you think that is relevant to this topic."
I'll concede that, I responded like that because you're reply felt aggressive.
What I said was perfectly relevant and in general is more apt than "they're entitled."
How would we determine that? I am firmly of the belief that the average gamer is over-entitled and that that is the main crux of the problem with people complaining about Bundles.
Because some people check all the bundle threads and vote/speak their opinion about it. That's how it works. It isn't just the people interested in a particular bundle who comment. Often, people who aren't interested will comment (check any bundle thread).
What can I say in response to that? That's just silly; not that you're saying that, but that it is true. I'm sure some people that do that care about the market/industry and partake in the discussion for such reasons but otherwise I fail to see logic in that.
Incorrect. They may also feel these games are overpriced.
It's not incorrect; if the game is being sold at $20 or $30 retail and people happily buy it and leave positive reviews, the same game being sold at $4.5 or $2.55 or w/e is a ridiculous bargain. Again, if you have even a passing interest in the genre the price in this Bundle can't be "bad". Furthermore, the metric for comparison can only be retail price and past discounts...
For instance, the only game I want from this bundle (the dungeon crawler) is cheaper on Steam right now than it would be for me to buy the game alone with this "bundle." And that's just one example.
That's fine and a specific example, but one that is not relevant; the Bundle is obviously aimed at people that wish to buy 3 or 5 games, that's the entire point of "pick and choose" Bundles. You can't judge the value of a bundle where you can choose up to 5 games out of like 12 by how much you want 1 game. But even then most of the games are cheaper in the 3/5 format versus you buying them elsewhere.
There's no such thing as "objective" in this case, due to the wide and varied circumstances and opinions of different people. That's the point of what I said -- and you're failing to see from any perspective but your own. Whether or not this bundle is a "good deal" is entirely subjective.
Why of course there is. Objectively the games cost "n" amount across all stores at standard times and here you can get 5 of them at "n-1" or better said "n-A LOT". If you have any interest in the games this is a good deal. If not, it's still a good deal, just not one for you. If you try to push that it is a bad deal due to that, you're not doing anything useful and are just wasting space with your irrelevant subjective opinion.
Do I care about the current Humble Fortnite eBook bundle? No I do not. Is it a good deal? I've got no idea, but whether or not it is a good deal doesn't depend on me and my opinion on it is irrelevant; it's either a cost-effective way to get a bunch of eBooks or it isn't.
All in all, this Bundle is NOT intended for people that want 1 game, it is NOT intended for people that don't like anime-style games, it is NOT intended for poor-as-heck people that can't spend $5 on a video game once per month.
You know what other demographic it is not intended for? People that don't play video-games at all.
I mean, their opinion doesn't matter at the slightest, but based off of your logic we should include their irrelevant subjective opinion because "all opinions are subjective".
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I am firmly of the belief that the average gamer is over-entitled
Then there's no point in discussing other possible perspectives with you. Have a nice day.
I'm perfectly okay with being called "entitled" because I don't see the same value in this bundle as you apparently do. That's how "perceived value" works.
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You don't wish me a nice day, so don't say that... Disingenuous. At least I imagine so. You're being rude and argumentative due to not getting another perspective. You're taking personal insult and dishing out the same for no reason. I made a statement about how gamers nowadays are generally over-entitled and spoilt, not you - and I'd like to see an actual argument against that.
And the reason why I am now accusing you of being narrow-minded is not because I'm doing "I know what you are but what am I?", but because you're conveniently ignoring my actual arguments just to "win" a discussion.
What about my Fortnite eBook example? What about me mentioning the demographic of people that don't play video games and how they would value the Bundle, so as to better illustrate the type of PoV I disagree with? Or simply me talking about the practical aspect of standard price vs prior discounts vs Bundle value and intended demographics?
Literally all I am doing is advocating a) people not talking crap about things that don't concern them and thus b) being practical about discussions about value.
I'm not saying that opinions don't exist nor that my opinion is some objective truth; you're right, all opinions are subjective. I'm just saying that some opinions are not relevant to certain subject matters due to various objective facts.
All I wanted to do was illustrate how there are some objective facts here and how some opinions simply aren't applicable to said facts.
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You don't wish me a nice day, so don't say that... Disingenuous. At least I imagine so.
Again, incorrect. I do actually wish you a nice day.
You're being rude and argumentative due to not getting another perspective. You're taking personal insult and dishing out the same for no reason.
I merely pointed out that you're so firmly set in your stance that further discussion of it seems pointless. Believe it or not, I actually do understand your perspective. I simply disagree with you because I believe there are more factors involved in perceived value than simply the price of something.
And the reason why I am now accusing you of being narrow-minded is not because I'm doing "I know what you are but what am I?", but because you're conveniently ignoring my actual arguments just to "win" a discussion.
I understand opinions vary and don't expect anyone to agree with mine, therefore there is no "winning" this discussion. I would say it's more narrow-minded, though, calling people entitled who don't agree this is a "good deal." But again, I'm fine being called "narrow-minded" for stating a dissenting opinion. If that's the worst that happens today, I'm okay with it.
All I wanted to do was illustrate how there are some objective facts here and how some opinions simply aren't applicable to said facts.
And all I did was point out that opinion isn't fact. Value is subjective.
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If you have time, read, I promise it's not mean or ranting.
Again, incorrect. I do actually wish you a nice day.
Great. Thank you. I'd rather be honest than lie, it's not that I do not wish you a good day/wish you a bad day but your baffling (not bad, just difficult for me to grasp) stance is making me hard to wish you a good day, lol. That's poor on my part, so sorry about that above all else.
I merely pointed out that you're so firmly set in your stance that further discussion of it seems pointless.
Because my stance seems infallible. We're talking about prices of things, it's really black/white, cut and try, practical matters. I've changed my opinions numerous times through my life and been given good reason to do so... This topic is so simple and thus I am confused and frustrated at your approach/argument. Again, the Fortnite eBook Bundle example (along with pointing out how what you're saying is a slippery slope by bringing up non-gamers and what their opinion would be like) is the "argument killer" in my eyes and yet you obviously disagree?!? How?!?
To me it sounds like you're argument can be metaphorized as this: If Bob is deciding between the Green Car and the Red Car and chooses the Red Car despite it being objectively worse and having a worse price-to-(practical)value ratio, all just because he really likes it more for intangible, human reasons, that is his pejorative - and he is not "wrong" for doing so, as the Red Car has more value in his mind, making him happier.
Well... NO! Bad Bob, bad human! That is the wrong way to go about things! Be practical and logical!
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Maybe I'm Vulcan or something.
So I do get what you're saying it's just that... It's wroooooooooooooong. Aaaaah. >.<
Believe it or not, I actually do understand your perspective. I simply disagree with you because I believe there are more factors involved in perceived value than simply the price of something.
I am not even disagreeing with that, I'm just saying that this Bundle and the games wherein are aimed at a certain demographic of consumers. If we aren't talking about Price but instead just "various miscellaneous factors that differ between individuals", then surely the only subjective opinions that matter are that of the target demographic, while that of others shouldn't carry much if any weight? So if people that like/are interested in these games say that the value is bad, sure, maybe we have something to talk about - but others, I mean, really shouldn't as the obvious input will be "nah bad value".
On the other hand, if we are talking about Price, again, that is an objective factor of practical value... Which is what I've been championing, given that I am neither a weeb/anime/JRPG fan nor that cute grills are enough motivate me to play games.
I understand opinions vary and don't expect anyone to agree with mine, therefore there is no "winning" this discussion. I would say it's more narrow-minded, though, calling people entitled who don't agree this is a "good deal." But again, I'm fine being called "narrow-minded" for stating a dissenting opinion.
Well I was wrong I guess as you don't even have a different opinion per say and apparently get where I am coming from.
Again, my base was that a general issue with modern gaming is that people whine about prices all the time, for everything... Again, completely unrelated to this Bundle, surely we can agree that every single Bundle in recent memory being called "bad" is a result of people being over-entitled and spoilt? No? It's one thing for one person to say "I don't like MGSV, Cities Skylines or any of these games and thus the Bundle is a bad deal" (though again I'd disagree with that conclusion or rather voicing it in such a way), but if everyone is saying that... Surely something else is afoot.
If that's the worst that happens today, I'm okay with it.
True that. All of this is irrelevant in the grander scheme, to say the least...
And all I did was point out that opinion isn't fact.
Correct, but prices are...
But as we've covered, the crux of the disagreement is in how we approach:
Value is subjective.
:triggered:
Have a good day/happy holidays!
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You still live in Europe, even if a poorer part, but still not comparable to war-torn African or Middle Eastern countries. Meanwhile I earn more just sitting on my ass in a rich country than some people do working full days so I don't have any problems buying some Nep-Neps to give away.
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As I responded to the other person, although you are 100% correct and context matters, I feel like it is barely applicable to this... It's just a sense of entitlement that has been building up slowly but surely within the PC gaming community at large, as well as with youth in general.
A few years ago a bundle or two and solid discounts on Steam twice a year made people excited.
Nowadays you get ridiculously good Humble Monthly bundles every month for $12 and people bitch and moan about it.
war-torn African or Middle Eastern countries.
I sincerely doubt a Somalian bricklayer on the brink of starvation or a South East Asian slave "working" in Jeddah are logging onto Steamgifts to cast a vote in this thread.
The most I can give you is exactly SEA people with comparatively lower disposable income; but, again, I'm willing to bet it's mostly just over-entitled people, particularly of the younger variety.
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Sure, they have to be better off than most in those countries to even have a PC or internet. Kids are another matter, do you buy bag of candy or a game to give away, that's a hard question. I agree with you about people being too entitled like we have seen with all the -1 raging, but some have made kind of valid points why they can't afford to pay $2. Of course that doesn't apply to most, rest are just greedy and want profitz. Can't resell something on black market if it's not cheap enough.
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That's exactly what I mean... Like... Even if you're poor and spending $10 on games is a big deal for you, objectively speaking this is still a pretty good deal for the given games and objectively the best one yet.
So, I understand and feel for the poor peeps, but if they are saying that this is a bad deal just due to a lack of money, their opinion is irrelevant and "incorrect".
At the end of the day, if you have even a passing interest in these games, getting 5 games (albeit without DLC) for $12 is still a very fair deal.
Back in the day the best you could do is get one for $12 in used condition or something like that... And yeah the market is different Today but you should still be fair.
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Bundle rereleased 1 game for Β£3.89, 3 for Β£7.79 or 5 for Β£11.69 on fanatical.
Remember, if you still have the 10 or 15% discount code sent to your email, it still applies to this bundle...
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no dlcs?
not really interesting for me then i try to get them when theirs something with all of them
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Idea Factory Pick-and-Mix
17 Dec 2018 - 24 Dec 2018
27 May 2019 - 10 Jun 2019
View this bundle on: ITAD - Barter.vg - Lestrades
May 27, 2019: Added: Amnesia: Memories & Megadimension Neptunia VIIR
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Choose any 1 for $4.99 / β¬4.25 / Β£3.89
Choose any 3 for $9.99 / β¬8.49 / Β£7.79
Choose any 5 for $14.99 / β¬12.79 / Β£11.69
Are you interested in knowing other ongoing bundles? Feel free to check out the new master thread!
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