I've chatted in/started threads more this week than I have in the years since 2011 that I've been here. Ah, the life of a lurker who finally isn't too shy to speak up.

But yeah, I havent had a good night's sleep since around 2007. I either A.) wake up every two hours or B.) have really intense nightmares that leave me more exhausted when I wake up than when I go to sleep. And the rare case where both happens. I at least have a theory as to what has started/continued this habit: stress. Not wanting to go to much into my backstory (I may not be shy around yall anymore, but I'm not THAT comfortable yet), I've been hit with major losses and major changes left and right ever since 2007. Stress can muck up a sleep cycle, I've read.

But anyway, I'd like to hear your sleeping tips. I've tried melatonin or however its spelled (its a pill that's supposed to work with your natural sleep cycle, but it didn't ever really make a difference) and reading before bed (has helped a bit more). You'd think in nine years, I'd have tried more stuff, but nope. :-/

Since we're talking about sleep, Dream Tale giveaway

EDIT: a lot of folks have mentioned therapists/psychologists/psychiatrists, and I've been seeing some (prob shouldve mentioned that when i first made the thread, whoops). they've actually helped out a LOT with the things that have happened since then, at least while i'm awake and conscious. But I don't think I've ever mentioned the sleep thing to my psychologist (I have to my psychiatrist, she suggested melatonin and regular exercise). Should probably do that. Also, would explaining what the stress in question is help? I'm hesitant to do so, because I'm kind of afraid that it'll sound like I'm fishing for pity (which I'm not, its just that a LOT has snowballed since then, but in my mind a long list of "this happened to me" = "im a big crybaby who cant fight her own battles") but I don't know.

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Should I go back to lurking?

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Yeah, you're pretty obnoxious and you keep giving out bundle games wtf
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Do you seriously think anyone will answer this poll seriously? Honestly, nobody's going to outright vote "yeah piss off" unless they're mean but SteamGifts is a chill place soooo
Kumquat is a funny word
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Why not? I've been on benzos for a while, had to switch... now on Ativan(lorazepam), they still work for now. Taking pills is the only way to get an almost full night of sleep for me (still tired as heck when I get up tho). Without pills... I'd be a total wreck. shrugs

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Didn't say they were all great. ;) But I've found something that works for me. For the moment. I know I'll have to switch to something else eventually, as benzos are highly addictive and you can build up a tolerance quickly. But for me, and for now, there's nothing else that can make me sleep, sadly. How did you manage to find sleep?

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Defo, seen so many people that said Benzos fucked them up.

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Do you have any other issues atm? Visit your general practioner, I think s/he will be more of help than we ever can.

Some tips:
-Avoid strenuous activity 1-2 hours before bed.
-Avoid using your TV/PC/mobile 1 hour (if it's possible, the earlier, the better) before bed. Artificial lightning affects our body more than you think.
-Do relaxing activities before bed. A nice bath, a good read, some tea.
-Sleep regularly, around the same time everyday if possible, so your sleep patterns won't be messed up.
-Your room temperature shouldn't be too warm, it's better to sleep in a cooler room (15c to 19c).
-Block out any noise - use ear plugs if needed.

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Haven't heard of flux before, handy, thanks.

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Like Zareh said above, some activities before bed should be nice... like do some push-ups and take a shower, thats should help a bit =)

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masturbate

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^this

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yes that gif could help

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Now this is what I call a proper reply from the Support team! 11/10.

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Play games till you pass out, take a shot of bourbon or what ever you like (it can relax you) and FAP AWAY,

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Chloroform?

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Either you get a headache, or you die. Trust me, I'm a chemist (in training)

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I see, good to know. Not that I was... planning on using it or anything. cough

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Eating chocolate a while before sleeping can help.

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chocolate contains caffeine

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It also reduces anxiety levels, which help sleep.

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Chocolate before bed can cause vivid nightmares, I'd avoid it.

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go see a psychiatrist or at least a trusted doctor, pills are the easiest way butt...

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Easiest, but you don't want to go down that road.

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you dont but... no proper sleep in 9 years, jezuz.

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butt?

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Ohh, I agree with you there about nightmares. I always find them very interesting, as I believe dreams have meaning and are able to reflect our subconsciousness.

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I do like my nightmares, once I've woken up and started analyzing them. But when they're happening, the adrenaline and panic kicks in and then I'm worn out. From sleeping.

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If it is a fear/adrenaline rush you can subdue it by lowering your blood oxygen level, do some mild exercise while taking very slow deep breaths, don't over do it, working in low oxygen isn't good for your heart, just burn off the adrenaline and take the edge off

also slowing your breathing while trying to fall asleep can help

if it's paranoia it might just be your hearing, people use non-serious references to murder and mayhem in casual conversation and they speak louder when they do so, so if you work around others you (and your subconscious) are constantly being bombarded with negative stuff that wouldn't me so negative if you knew the context of the conversation, but you can't ask people what they were talking bout because it is rude to listen in so you only get the negative part.

btw, rinse out your eyes when you shower, that sandy stuff that accumulates in the corners of your eyes can also form microscopic crystals on your eyes while you stare at a screen, the irritation can lead to headaches and difficulty sleeping if you don't rinse the stuff off occasionally.

if it is guilt about something you can try to mitigate whatever the issue is, or you could volunteer or give blood to help others, prayer helps some people as a coping mechanism

darkness can help if you are comfortable with darkness, in addition to the color and black and white vision cells in our eyes there are also a few that see a specific blue color even through out eyelids, it's supposed to trigger a wake up signal in our brain just before sun up but a lot of our artificial lights, LED's and monitors use that color and could interfere with sleep.

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I usually just close my eyes and go to sleep. But it's true that your psychology can affect your sleep. Maybe some chamomile could help you? Getting rid of the problems that affect you, that could help too. ;)

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By the way, you should try some kumquat liquor. It's awesome. Got it from Corfu island. I'm saying it because you referred to kumquat. :P

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Play DDR for 4 hours straight (on a hard difficulty). Then you'll fall asleep.

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Yeah. My sleep always ends being screwed when I go to bed angry, so stress is definitely a factor. I don't know what else to say though. Maybe if you wait until you get really sleepy, this 2 hours thing you mentioned won't be a problem. Or, maybe even if you wake up, you'll be able to sleep again. I myself wake up at least twice each night to go to the bathroom, but it's always possible to sleep after, even if it takes a while.

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  • take some pills and sleep.
  • work out till you are tired.
  • count sheep.
  • drink beer till you drop unconscious. not recommended
  • watch this gif and do the same :3
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Running last thing at night is my thing now but I've tried allsorts in the past and really anything that breaks your rhythm and lets your mind drift at the end of the day helps. If its still buzzing as I collapse into bed I'll slap the headphones on and listen to talk podcasts/radio full of sensible people being sensible, if you're genuinely tired there's only so long you can focus on grey people chatting politics or whatever. And if nothings working laying there getting stressed about it is never helpful, just get up for a few and then try laying down somewhere else, even if it's just the couch.

Just my tuppence :)

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Try to avoid blue light exposure close to bedtime.
Check with a doctor if you suffer of Sleep apnea, if your sleep quality is not good.
Here a link with other suggestions

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I spent a year sleeping around 4 hours/day because of my little girl. I feel you, man.

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start swimming... since I did, I feel like I was hit by a truck when I get home.
you may want to choose something like me, something that leaves you no option but sleep... even if you want to stay awake.

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yawn and yawn...

psyche your mind into being sleepy

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I started yawning just after reading this post, it works.

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Apart from the physical aspects which many have given you good advice about, I'd also second the recommendation to either see a therapist or to approach the issue from more of a proactive, long-term solution to your issues with stress. Continuously elevated levels of stress can really deteriorate ones physical health in so many ways, and it is largely a psychologically self-inflicted state. You've identified that it is a likely significant factor in your sleep troubles, but it is also likely wrecking havoc on you in both mental and physical ways you may not even be consciously aware of yet.

If therapy is prohibitively expensive or you feel awkward about it, then maybe look at self-help ways to reduce stress, maybe watch some TED talks, read a few books on the topic, etc.

I wish you well, and hope you can both find a way to reduce your stress levels as well as manage a way to get a good night's sleep!

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In addition to what others have said, stop or at least decrease caffeine intake. Not just coffee, it can also be in tea (green/black/white) and soft drinks--check the labels. I definitely sleep better when I take a break from caffeine.

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yoga- melatolin.

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