Scammed:never alone game was removed from my libray

I feel bad for the guy (who got his account stolen)

this is so not true. the guy who claims to have been hacked during the last 2 weeks, redeemed all the games he traded for on his account and he also crafted tons of badges during that time.
and he used his steamgifts name to register at carding forums.

do you need any more evidence? it's obvious that he's talking bullshit!

sometimes people post names without being 100% sure of what happened, and everyone jumps on the bandwagon.

because a ot of scammers are impersonators, and a lot of users, especially new to trading, cannot tell the difference between scammer and real account. They got scammed and call out on innocent person. It's just like in court, nnocent until proven guilty.

It starts witch hunts, occasionally for someone who did nothing wrong, either because the person doing the scam was an impersonator, or because the person making the accusation is a scammer themselves that shouldn't be trusted.

Look into you own feedback from a week ago. He's quite easy to spot. :P

A lot of those positive feedback were left by legitimate traders who got the game from this person. Most of them are the same ones who have changed their feedback to negative now that the game got revoked.

randomperson321 at least saved some asses from scam.

Again, you always suppose:

• first, that I should have read that thread, when in fact I trade w/ him before that
• second, that the trade wasn't fair: you don't even know what I gave him for it.

If someone has no negative rep and more than 30 positive, sure I'll trust him. I also checked his reputation.

"It's easy playing the innocent victim" I think I won't bother to reply to this

Didn't know that one

you need to say that while strike a epic pose for full effect

It's risky indeed, not because things like this happen a lot but because you need some info on where the key might have originated from.
Once you've kept track of deals for a while you tend to know the source of keys on the market when you see the price tag most traders put on it, for instance if you'd say you have a COH2, alien isolation or a thief key i'd assume it originated from one of the AMD promo deals, if it has a rather high price tag i'd assume it comes from a retailer like Amazon or GMG and going by that information you can eliminate obvious credit card fraud cases like this one, where a game is being sold in key form yet no retailer or bundle site has sold the game for a price even close to the one being asked by the scammer.

Honestly, if you come across a deal like this it doesn't automatically mean you have to avoid it, but the choice is either running a risk of getting the game revoked or taking a few minutes of time to check price history on steamprices/isthereanydeal and comparing it with what prices other traders have it for or alternatively ask the seller directly and see how he deals with that question. (who knows, maybe the trader got lucky and got a copy dirt cheap from a pricing error, CS:GO was $1 on newegg a few months ago for instance, so those keys are out there dirt cheap yet legit)

There is a 30-day wait period to trade your game through the trade window. You can, however, still gift it to someone. Right now, if you wan to trade during sales you have to send your payment first then the trader gift the game to you. By doing that, Valve ensures that if the game later gets revoked they don't have to return anything to you since you traded outside the safety of the trade window.

So, either you wait 30 days (and can't get sale's price anymore) or you take a gamble and "trade" in 2 steps with someone you hopefully trust.

I would say that the line should be drawn when a service helps to facilitate a scammer too take advantage of members. With little to nothing being done to the said scammer or the process that helped to facilitate it all from ever even occurring. That is where the line gets drawn. But it is whatever, I don't trade, but if I did, I would only trade for items in a traders inventory that can be legitimately traded. And that is how I would run my service that helped people to find others looking to trade as such. I find it to be unethical to do it any other way. Since Steam has their system setup the way they do, I would follow suit and require the same rules be followed.

It was a key and no, I did not.