Now I gotta learn how to use ArchiBoT. help please :(
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It's not hard, I was able to figure it out while less than sober lol
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+1 ASF is not difficult at all if you have a text editor and can follow directions. If you have just one account, it's easy as pie.
Edit: It's actually ASF: Archi's Steam Farm.
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Just our new lord and master who'll soon rule the entire planet. It's advised to join its followers now, so you may get a better position in the new world order.
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ASF also does both the farming AND mobile auth.
All people really need is a phone that can get texts, hell technically all they NEED it for is a phone that can get ONE text to activate the mobile auth, after that do it all via whatever you want too on your computer.
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i read the whole thing wrong, i thought it was the OP saying he was going to stop using IdleMaster because of no phone.
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Are you saying it can be used on bar phone ?
Or do you mean that desktop version authenicator for the pc that's on github?
I have a pc and 3g dongle for internet .
I also have a bar phone but i didn't think you could use that for the steam authentication.
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I like that he's going out with class. There's no big rant about the changes like so many are doing. It's about security. Sure a few people aren't gonna make it, but given how big the current issues are in Steam with account stealing and such, they really had to do something.
That and the number of people without a phone that can get texts, and the ability to run any of the several ways to get the auth codes on your desktop, is Very small.
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What I don't understand is how in this day and age people don't have a smart phone with any sim in .... But they have internet and a gaming PC ? Any one explain please ? Do free Sims and junk smart phones not exist globally ?
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For people with a small budget a smartphone is an after thought. Priorities man, a smartphone doesn't replace a PC or a gaming PC, or internet. And yes, I'm one of those individuals who can't afford to buy one yet.
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Fair enough. At least your account is safer ,.....:(
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There is no such thing as a free sim here, the only way to have a working sim is to buy one and associate it with a pricy plan.
As far as smartphones go, not everyone can afford or even wants one. Then there are the people who chose to purchase Windows phones where the activator is not even available.
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Sure I understand that, hell my smart phone I don't even want. I know people should not need one to trade but I see this weird logic ... Same with justifying pirating games that it's unaffordable to them yet to use steam they have a gaming PC + 100s of games + internet etc (very expensive in my country compared to most of the world) ??
As far as utility they say 95% are now using mobile authentification ...... To stop most of the 77k accounts hacks a month seems a small price.
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Just because you have a PC doesn't mean you have money left to afford a smartphone. (Especially if you're a younger person who had the PC purchased by a parent.) There's also those who simply refuse to own one for whatever reason or who chose the "wrong" brand/system.
And choosing not to own a specific piece of technology is hardly the same as software theft. For me it's mostly an annoyance since I have a smartphone and the authenticator, but I understand how much of a pain it can be for someone who doesn't meet the requirements for it.
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Do you appreciate the utility for the 95% ? Most steam users don't trade or give two pennies for cards as well.
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I've stayed away from smart phones as i spend enough time staring at a computer screen .
Though in time they'll probably be the only phones you can buy.
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Trade and market holds increased to 15 days to "provide a way to continue to exchange items" for "users who have yet to transition to the Steam Guard Mobile Authenticator"... Yeah right
Fuck you Valve
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To be fair, something people seem to be skipping when they read/post about it..
Valve says UP TO 15 days. Not that it WILL be 15 days. Which means it might end up being 15 days for high value/rare items, where as cheap cards and such might be far less. Lot of people jumping the gun imho.
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No, "up to" will be 15 days every time. That's just PR lingo.
It's "up to three days" right now and that means 72 hours on the spot every single time for every trade.
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Like how trade holds were "up to" 72 hours, yet mysteriously 100% of the ones that were not between long-time friends somehow managed to have this upper "limit"? :)
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Up to 15 days means:
- If you've been friends for > 1 year: 1 day
- Else: 15 days
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Pretty sure it will be similar system to one now, where you have 1 day escrow for 1-year friends and 3 days for rest.
So, week for long-friends and 15 days for others.
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Trade hold duration will be increased to 15 days (for long-time Steam friends the duration will remain 1 day)
Listing on the Steam Community Market will have a hold of 15 days before an item can be sold
So we'll be adjusting the system to accommodate the majority of customers by increasing trade holds to 15 days.
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A delay to catch and stop item theft
If a user trading away or selling items hasn't had their account protected by a Mobile Authenticator for the past 7 days:
Trades: item delivery from completed trades will be delayed by Steam for up to 3 days
Market: starting March 9th, sell listings will be held by Steam before they are posted, for up to 15 days
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I'm getting mine from the popup on the Market page : http://steamcommunity.com/market/ :p
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I saw it. Looks like others are right; It doesn't mention the required time for friends so it should be that way. ^^.
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I can definitely see the day coming when non-mobile-authentication users won't be able to trade or use the market at all. I'm sure that's the long-term plan here, and they are doing it in increments so that everyone doesn't totally freak out instantly.
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I'm waiting for the day when people without the app won't be able to start Valve games. Then the Steam client. Then they get a hundred million or so from the vast cash reserve of Apple and discontinue the Android version.
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And then subscription to have access to your account. Of course they will justify it by "we will at last hire people to ask your support tickets!"
D:
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Well, if MS and Sony can ask you to pay monthly just to play the games you purchased, why wouldn't Valve? Just imagine: if they put a pay-to-play model on CS:GO, Russia would either go bankrupt or the player base would drop below a quarter. :D
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They can also ban all non-english native speakers, as people won't be able to read properly their TL;DR messages AND they fucked up some volountary translations teams (I'm in Polish one, just few suggestion made by me were approved in February, they are all pending. Nothing is on time and quere of untranslated tokens is growing. I don't even want to go there at this point knowing that nothing is pushed further at this point). Spanish translation team is non-existent at this point.
So that way they could effectively ban all russian CS:GO players, by means of protecting american users from non native speaking trolls D:
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Joking aside, they'd never do it. That would pretty much remove most sellers from the CS:GO item market, and we all know that this is where a good part of their income comes from.
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Since when does Sony/Microsoft charge to play games??
They charge for online services,you know the downloading of updates and so forth.
Anyhow you do not have to pay anything to play games on Play Station/Xbox as long as you do not want to play online.So please do not pass wrong info and make it seem like you have to pay to play any game.
It cost money to host and run servers..of course they have to pay,but in no way are you being forced to pay to just play a game only if you want to go online.
Most steam games are p2p because well it cost nothing to host or use.The down side though is you get more drops and lag because the host or others playing have bad internet or are to far away.I rather pay a fee so much a year to get dedicated servers then deal with P2P crap in some games like GTA V,or pretty much any pvp online game.
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And in some cases the online part is the game. Like how you need to have this premium service to have access to the raid missions in Destiny (or at least this was the setup when they unlocked the raids). Or heck, when games ask for this service to just play a PvP match in case of a tournament fighter like the newer Godzilla games (you cannot play with your buddy sitting next to you without Gold/Plus). Valve could do the same: you can play CS:GO/TF2 as much as you want offline against bots, but if you want to go online, you need a monthly "Steam Elite" subscription. After all, nobody ever said that you must play CS only online.
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It will be brand new feature in Steam!
"Due to more and more complains from users that got VAC banned while their account have been used by someone else, we have improved the security and now you will need to confirm every laiunch of the game that is VAC-secured. You will never get VAC-banned while not being able to access your acclount!"
Oh, tell me it won't happen...
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So people that don't own a mobile phone get shafted due to the idiots that (by being stupid, greedy, or both) allow their accounts to be hijacked. Lovely.
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You can use Steam Desktop Authenticator.
That is what I did when it became clear that Valve can't be arsed to make a WinPhone version of the authenticator.
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If only people were shits and were scamming people this wouldn't be happening
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You're gonna let Archi gain more power. I pray for sg.
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And I thought the 72 hours trade hold was much. GabeN can be really evil at times.
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Sad to see it go. Jshackles did a great thing for us. Thanks for the info bearbear
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Uhm ... 15 days before I can list my cards? Are they serious?? Now I'm getting punished for not owning a smartphone?!?!?
This should clearly be optional. I don't want and I don't need that kind of protection. :(
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Yes, 15 days before the cards you put up on the market actually become visible for the buyers. Change the price because you overshot it? Next 15 days. Price went up to double after the initial rush but you had it listed for half? Well, you made someone super happy while you lost potential profits.
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It's 2016 and from our viewpoint in the Sillicon Valley everyone and their mother now owns a smartphone!
– some guy in Valve.
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Yep, I have 5000+ cards in my inventory, all useless now without the authenticator.
116th in the USA for # games owned on Steam, but to Valve I'm a 3rd-class citizen.
/facepalm
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How do you get that ranking (116th) is there a site for it?
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https://github.com/Jessecar96/SteamDesktopAuthenticator
Community provides.
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This is really sad day especially in steam history...
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so whats now ? is there another app to farm cards easy to use like idle master ?
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how to use that ?!! i tried last time but didnt understand nothing :/
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Well, yeah. I mean, I just open a game I want to "unlock achievements" and then simply never close the window. As far as I know, as long as you have a online connection and you have the game "open" on SAM. It'll mine cards out of it.
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i didnt know that and it takes long to drop cards ?
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Same as other ways (IM, Archie).
Difference is, with SAM you have to manually change games.
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I don't like "same" word here.
IM and SAM use simulating-game method, which launches some process, then hooks it to steam with steamworks DLL, and tells steam that it's legit game.
ASF is independent mini steam-client which logs in to your account and farms it. It's like you'd ask your brother/sister to turn on second PC and farm your steam cards while you're not playing.
Objective is similar, but the way how all of those programs achieve their goal is totally different. And because ASF is independent of steam client, I have full control how it behaves, which includes some anti-fuckup code that will e.g. restart farming when steam goes down.
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So does this mean because you don't simulate that all games I want to idle have to be downloaded and installed?
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Well, it was "same [long]" as "using one or another will not get you cards faster".
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Actually that's not true, ASF farms a little faster.
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Any program that fakes you playing games can. You can farm cards with the ancient steam_appid.txt change trick where you fake a game's appID on another one and idle it in the background.
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i'm not really cleaver when it comes to change txt and stuff XD
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I don't want to sound crazy, but it's like there's a global conspiracy. They are forcing us to have smartphones, so they can spy on us!
EDIT:
I'm not joking here...
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I think that cat has had enough of his owners bs. xD
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psst.. you know the tinfoil just helps boost the CIA's reception right? :p
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Yep. And it also acts as a signal booster, so you even helped them to spy on others.
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They can listen to what you say as well and target you with ads .
Try it and see.
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And I wondered where all the "single girls near you" ads are coming from.
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Is your smartphone listening to you? - BBC News
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35639549
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I bet he's stalking me, waiting for the perfect moment to take me out of the picture, so he can steal my identity.
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Damn. ;/ Hopefully someone will take over or it'll continue working.
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Steam Desktop Authenticator + ASF
The spice ( i mean the cards) must flow...
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Now you can start the countdown until your users demand a GUI…
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Personally, I'm rather happy with it being command line only, it's light and it's simple, just read the instructions, they're very good.
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ASF allows multiple accounts and don't require the client to be active
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The sooner you switch from discontinued software, the less disappointed and angry you'll be when it stops working.
Yes, I'd say that Valve can (and probably will) break outdated IM at some point, but I can't predict the future.
If you ask me, better now than later.
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The source code for IM is freely available, somebody will most likely take it over IMO. Its popularity is just too great for this not to happen.
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Thank you for all the hard work that you have put into this program! And best of luck to you in all the future endeavours!
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When Origin hit the scene Valve finally woke up and improved Steam... a bit. Now that they're secure in their position Valve once again sits back and stops giving a fuck about user convenience.
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I hate GUIs. Maybe I create one that will just manage config for bots.
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http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/30miO/idle-master-discontinued#JKlLfcP - so, around 9 minutes
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RIP, steam is fucking everything up... i will sell my account and buy everything aganin in gog and the pirate bay, auction starts at 1 trillion rubles and fifty canadian cents
or best offer
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ill like to offer you 0.51$ canadien but we are not allow trading in that part of forum
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It's gonna to work to the point Valve won't change something important to prevent it from working. So it's not "I won't develop it anymore, it won't work from now on".
I'm using Enchanced Steam even when support was dropped year ago. I just don't get new functions, the ones that interests me are still working.
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http://steamcommunity.com/groups/idlemastery#announcements/detail/666902171288054077
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