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Guidelines for "Winning" should explain how to avoid multiple wins

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Yirg

As you know I find the site guidelines a cause for celebration, but one thing is still missing - the subject of multiple wins. I think it should be straightforward to cover the the issue, explain how to avoid it and provide some tips about what to do after winning a giveaway. Something along the lines of:

If you win the same game multiple times, do the following to avoid becoming a rule breaker:

  1. Activate the first win, and (assuming success) mark as Received
  2. Add a comment in the second win: "I won this game from another giveaway. Please request a new winner. Thanks!"
  3. Important: Do not mark the second giveaway as Received or as Not Received. After requesting the giveaway creator to reroll, your part is done. Just forget about it, and of course do not activate or re-gift the key. For all intent it's not yours to use and should be assigned a new winner.
  4. To reduce the chances of multiple wins in general, after winning, resync your account, go over your entries to other giveaways of the game you just won and remove them manually.

Old text: If you win the same game multiple times, only activate one key, and contact the other giveaway creators to ask them to request a new winner. To reduce the chances of this happening, after winning, resync your account, go over your entries to other giveaways of the game and remove them manually.

No poll this time, but here are a couple of L4+ giveaways to make you happy or not

http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/7EhHL/guardians-of-middle-earth
http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/etsgE/guardians-of-middle-earth-smaugs-treasure

9 years ago*

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fubarnocaps

I do agree that the FAQ/guidelines need revision, but I think that cg is really working on keeping the length short. I can just imagine it to end up as a tl;dr type of thing. The people who are careful enough to realize that they probably shouldn't win a game twice would could probably assume that because they can't redeem the same game twice, and that they should ask for a reroll. They would probably be proactive enough to contact support about it at least. As for the willfully ignorant and the malicious, no amount of writing in the FAQ would help them follow rules.

9 years ago
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Yirg

If it's too long, then they'd better trim out some of the less important stuff. Multiple wins of the same game is one of the 2 main things people check before sending a key to winners (the other being unactivated wins), it's also requested by Support. If it's so important, it should at least be mentioned in the guidelines. I have to wonder how many otherwise-good users who actually read the rules did the wrong thing and ended up on blacklists because this thing isn't explained...

9 years ago
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fubarnocaps

What do you think is the less important stuff?

Won gifts should be activated to the Steam account used during registration, and they should not be regifted, traded, or sold.

I think that covers winning multiple games, because what would you do with the extra copy? You cannot activate it, and it would just be sitting in your inventory (since you can't regift, trade, etc).

9 years ago
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Yirg

I'm sure for many that's what happened. They just marked as Received because they did receive the game, but didn't regift, trade, or sell the key because it's against the rules. The point about what to do next, is missing and it's not fair to people to rely on them coming to this conclusion themeslves. Some of them start a thread in the forum asking for advise, but relying on people to start a thread, or even use the forum, is not going to solve this problem.

9 years ago
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fubarnocaps

They marked it as "received" but they didn't activate the game on their account because you can't activate a second copy of the game to your Steam account. Also, once they get suspended, they can return that gift and get it rerolled to get it off their record.

I see your point, but I'm debating for the sake of debating

9 years ago
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talgaby

Winning guidelines need to tell how to avoid Guardians of Middle-earth? o_O I know it's not a good MOBA, but surely it isn't that bad.

9 years ago
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Yirg

I added it to the title to get to 5 entries, but I agree, it's apparently so bad that SG Guidelines should warn against it :'D

9 years ago
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whitywind

I'm thinking on adding some texts to my giveaway descriptions. It's one of the specific rules that is different from other giveaway sites. Other sites such as indiegala giveaways don't care about the proper usage of their keys. New members from such sites will possibly miss these rules at the first sight.

9 years ago
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Yirg

Have you added this text? If so, please share. Others may want to use it too.

9 years ago
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whitywind

XD
Shamefully, I've forgot what I said until your very late reply.
What I'm doing at my giveaways is just checking winners by sgtools, request rerolls for the certain winners. And I warn the winner if he/she is about to break the rule when I could find it luckily.
Recently I found many of them don't read English sufficiently, replying in broken English or don't understand what I said. Let alone the long guidelines I guess. I think it's one of the major problems that prevent them from knowing the rule..

9 years ago
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Yirg

Since it's not in the FAQ yet, hopefully some newcomers will notice this thread....

8 years ago
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Yirg

Closing thread, as this is obviously not going to be added. Posted as a more a explicit tips thread here.

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Closed 8 years ago by Yirg.