Did I just get scammed?
You sacrificed(your money) for the greater good, OP! O7
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You did not trade with him,so maybe you can ask support to delete that trade feedback?
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I wasn't sure which winner was the douchebag but thanks to that negative rep, he just put more and more attention to his idiotic activities. ;)
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Thanks for all your feedback everyone. I feel a lot better about the situation now, and have taken the steps with support to clear my negative trade feedback, and a user report. I appreciate all the comments! I wish I could keep this alive all night, but I gots to go to bed! lol
Peace,
Loco
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Happened to me too. I rolled a winner, he said that he just noticed that he already have the game but I was 100% sure that he had it not so I re-rolled and new winner told me that the key is already activated.
Now I'm waiting for my ticket to get approved or something, I owe a key to the second winner and I don't have one which sucks for both me and a guy that was re-rolled.
I'm also a new user on SG and I absolutely love the community :)
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Wait.... one of my friend is your winner, and I found out below from activity window.
스팀기프트에서 Outlast당첨됬는데 기프트생성자가 Never Alone키를 줬네요. 따질까하다가 번들게임 하나때문에 말도 안통하는 영어로 메일주고받는거도 성가셔서 그냥 험블 16 1달러짜리 사서 직접 Outlast 등록했습니다.
그래서 Never Alone키가 남게됬네요.
What he said is,
"I won Outlast from Steamgifts, but the creator gave me Never Alone. I wanted to talk to the creator, but I'm not good at English, so I bought Humble Bundle Tier 1 and activated Outlast from it. I made a giveaway of Never Alone with spare key."
I believe he has no need to lie...
It seems you made mistakes with two gift links, and my friend activated the link first. So your second winner could not activate it.
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now things are getting interesting
/grabs popcorns
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yeah and based on this latest piece of evidence provided, i have changed my vote to No. We need more jury members to do the same though. We need more people to lobby for (possibly) wrongfully banned guy ! :o
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Well he got banned for misusing trade feedback so its not actually wrongful ban
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yeah i guess you are right :P but still feel a bit sorry for him. I mean it looks like he was innocent afterall, so i can see how could one lose his temper there :x
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It's a pity the second winner used not messaging system but trade feedback. It's suspension from ignorance, I guess.
But he/she was innocent. (shrug)
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Wow Turns out the guy is innocent?(maybe) but a massive douche as well
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Though he wasn't cussing at the negative rep, just being confused... weird situation. I wouldn't call him a douche at this point, there's still chance that it's just a mistake - OP sending both winner the same key (I also mixed up keys already two times) and winner-guy not knowing that he shouldn't leave a "message" on the trade feedback
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Ugh my emotions just keep getting pulled one way and the other here. He's a big ole bag of D, and rightfully suspended, but still, it could have been a mistake. Maybe we need a Steamgifts Redemption.
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it really looks like it was a mistake but you cant really blame OP either because when Outlast game winner marked it as received (without saying anything about it) OP probably thought its all good :p
dam this is getting too complicated for my tiny brain. i give up (:
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Now I'm actually feel sorry for that guy....I hope more people see this post and know that he's no scammer.
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Now that is what I call a coincidence...
He simply posted that? Like, "Hey, let me just update my status with this funny story of a someone giving me the wrong game...".
It could be true, but its extremely odd.
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No, it was not simple status. He made a GA of Never Alone(Invite Only) for friends with explaining the circumstance.
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This thread is 3 hours old. The giveaway ended 5 hours ago. He created the "Never Alone giveaway" (its probably the invite one), 2 hours ago.
I'm not trying to witch hunt or anything... I will withdraw my 100% conclusion of guilt, but not convinced of innocence either.
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I guess we'll have to wait for OP the re-check the link he gifted, then we wiil know if it's a mistake.
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There is no private giveaway link on this person's profile and there has been none earlier.
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http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/FJbEf/never-alone-kisima-ingitchuna
deleted 5 minutes ago, after I told him this mess.
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Why would he do it, if it wasn't true though? He doesn't seem to be connected to the other winner in any way.
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Wow, you should tell your friend he should have tried to contact the creator anyway, even using google translate, if he has nobody who could have helped. It wasn't nice of him to redeem the other win in the first place (unless this one was a key, not a link) and to make a giveaway with it, imo. All this mess could have been avoided :S
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Yes, I told him already. But I cannot guarantee that he would listen my advice and make an appearance here or the GA. (facepalm)
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I don't believe him.
- First of all he pulled the same trick not even a week ago.
- Second: OP also gave Outlast and the winner marked it as received.
- Third and last: the person in question does not have a Never Alone giveaway running.
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the person in question does not have a Never Alone giveaway running.
How can you tell? It's invite only... O.o
EDIT: oh, it seems it was deleted.
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Huh? But ... there is no invite only giveaway ... am I checking the wrong person's profile? I'm looking at OP's Never Alone winner...?!
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It was the Outlast's winner, but he just deleted it: http://www.steamgifts.com/archive/deleted (the Outlast's winner is Hirano)
I see no reason for him to lie.
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Uhm, the first point is there, but the 2nd and 3rd are not very clear, Hirano won Outlast but got the key for Never Alone, so he bought HB T1 to get Outlast and marked as recieved (that's what im understanding), then he make a GA for Never Alone (theorycally the invite only ga that is running)
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I also don't see a private giveaway running at Hirano's profile. I'm confused.
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Yes, that's right, but he deleted the Invite Only GA, though I don't know why.
It becomes more complicated.
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Well, CypherLoco could give the Outlast link to a friend and check if its used or not to clear this mess :p
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I have a report from almost 1 month ago in HB because i created a link and redeemed myself and i cant see the key anywhere -.-
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I think he can't do that since he already owned that game?
cmiiw..
We better stop assuming things and, as EsE said, wait for CipherLoco to come and clarify whether the Outlast code has been used or not.. :D
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Wasn't it a gift link? If so, it should say if it was claimed or not.
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Ah, I see..
So for Humble's gift link we can check whether it has been claimed or not by ourselves?
Sorry, I never bought from Humble's nor try the gift link yet.. :)
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Yes, but you're not able to know who claimed it though.
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If it has been used, it will redirect you to a page which says "Gift key already used!", if not, to a page where you input your mail to claim the key link. The creator can also check the gift link's adresses to figure out what he sent to the outlast's winner.
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He could have deleted it because in a way it could be considered regifting although you can't really regift a game you haven't officially won.
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I thought it won't be considered re-gifting if you have activated the won game and later decided to buy another copy and make a giveaway with that..
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It isn't. As long as you activated your win your win it's completly fine to give away different copies of the same game (for example because you liked it a lot and would like to share).
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I think it's not against the rules, but it is morally questionable... given the outcome (I mean in this specific case).
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Reporting a won key as duplicated (check the "not received" win).
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I think your wording is confusing XD
I don't believe him.
The post in the screenshot is from Outlast's winner, so I guess that means you don't believe him.
First of all he pulled the same trick not even a week ago.
Reporting a key as duplicated was done by the Never Alone's winner. So that's a different he :P
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I see that now. Didn't realize it's about two different people. This is a weird case.
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this is a trick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFtmBs6-Woc
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its not hman language, you just made that up
but seriously, is there a korean? site like this where i can enter not knowing korean ??
ppl not knowing basic english, not reading the rules - i must be too old for this
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What? =ㅅ=
Are you saying I'm a liar? Can you say the reason why?
The Language is Korean. And please know that not everyone who can read and understand English can write or speak well.
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sarcasm, irony, joke, call it as you like (''but seriously'' - it could be a hint what i meant)
why so serious ? hope i didnt miss your joke there
About english. Agree, im an example of what you said. Im far from comfortable when communicating english when it comes to more complicated things.
And its really sad when there are trouble because of communication problems. If ''you'' can understand english ok, when thers a problem make a thread and ask for a help person who speaks both languages better.
i know, its probably hard to read and its a mess :)
cheers
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As a tip for any future GAs you make, if it's a humble gift link you are sending and you've put it in the key field when creating the GA, then click on the link just before you send it to the winner so you can confirm it isn't used. Until you press send, the link is not visible to them. I always check my gift links just before I send them so if someone comes back saying it was used I will know they are trying to scam me.
If you want to play it really safe you could also create evidence each time, showing a gift link is not used just in case this sort of thing happens, but I feel it's not worth the hassle personally. Just checking the link is enough for me.
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And that is why I'm planning to do a puzzle giveaway :D
if only I had the game to giveaway, or the money...
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He has done it before saying is a duplicate, can support check this guy and ban him?
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All of it?, oh man, I just want to go and see Friends
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Just from here:
http://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/5eokKuI
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As more and more evidence surfaces things become even more unclear. Either several people here are lying or this was one huge clusterfuck of miscommunication.
I hope OP can clear things up a bit when he comes back online by checking if there was actually a mix-up with the Never Alone and the Outlast gift links.
Until then no Blacklists for anyone. Meeting adjourned.
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+1 - I'm glad I read through the whole topic, because so far the guy doesn't look like blacklist material, at least not until things are cleared up. I also messed up keys during trains, things can happen. And, to be honest, these are only 1$ tier games. Good games, and paid for it, but no major harm done
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this was one huge clusterfuck of miscommunication.
This. It's rather clear now, frankly, just involves a two-way miscommunication and a silent third who didn't know he could have cleared it up.
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On the downside you lost a key which you can possibly have revoked anyway. On the upside the person in question is now on a bunch of blacklists and you are on a bunch of whitelists for being a decent human being. Welcome to steamgifts.
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Hmmm, shouldn't your profile library at humblebundle show with which steam account all your purchases were claimed?
If there's any other username besides yours and said winner, wouldn't that be proof that he gave the link away to someone
else and pretended it's duped?
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Indie Gala shows what email claimed the gift link, but Humble does not.
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May I ask what do you mean when you say you checked the gift link before posting the GA? What exactly did you do?
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Can you write to HB and ask to revoke the first key ?
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Read here: http://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/5eokKuI :P
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That's why now when i do giveaway, i will check on winner and his contribution ratio. Hope you are feeling better now.
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I'm not good at English.I'm Using google translator
I don't know why should i be called as fraud. There was no malice. i just got the wrong serial key and just used it, because i didn't know it's the wrong key. so after that i bought game from humble bundle and posted remained key on the steamgift.I just wanted to handle things quietly.
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You misunderstood. This thread was about the Never Alone winner, not you. Since you used the gift link meant for him, he got an already used link and said so to the giveaway creator. The giveaway creator, however, had trouble believing him, since you said nothing about it and activated Outlast on your account despite not having received it (so he had no reason to think he sent you the wrong link), the winner has reported another already duplicated key this week and the link was unused when he sent it.
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Phaeon won Never Alone, and said it's activated.OP said it is legit, good, and thought that the winner gave it to a friend, and then asked for another key.
You did nothing wrong -but if you next time get a wrong key, please message the creator, so he knows about it, and won't think about Never Alone's winner that he lied.
Also, it seems that google translator is good if you (and me) use short, simple sentences. Just message people if there is a problem. They are patient with people who want to do good, google translate is not a problem.
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If it is English, Google Translator can be decent. You are correct though: you have to use short sentences. And simple words and sentence structures.
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But it's worse. He received a gift link, not a Steam key. After redeeming to email it shows you what game the key is for.
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Totally forgot about that! So when the winner claimed the gift link, it will show the game is Never Alone and not outlast, but the winner of outlast still clicked redeem to get the key, this is so wierd...
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Exactly. It's a train/combo of mistakes here. First CipherLoco made a mistake by sending the wrong link to Hirano, then Hirano didn't read for which game the key is & used it before PhaeOne. And finally, PhaeOne made a mistake by giving CipherLoco a negative feedback.
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No way on earth you can tell me that, you win wrong game, and then you go and buy it yourself and mark it as recived.
Sorry mate, but Im not biting that.
- what he wrote translator cant translate it that way.
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But why would he lie? People don't do things without a reason.
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Just remember there are cultural and behavioural differences. Some people just don't like to make a fuss about anything. Even when they're in the right or the law is on their side.
How do you think real-life scammers (i.e not internet-based scams) are so successful?
Or firms that don't pay minimum wages or pay when someone is on sick-leave? That how Germany's slave labout trade is so successful.
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why not? Yeah, i get it, you wouldnt have done it, but that doesnt mean you should assume how everyone else would do the same thing though.
also, the guy in question did actually win a game, so its not like he got a key that doesnt work. Yeah he was a different game, but he did win something, and you can get Outlast for $1 together with 2 other games so i can see how someone could sacrifice a ... dollar
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But with humble links, I thought it shows you what game the key is for? When it said the wrong game couldn't you have contacted the GA creator to alert him to the mistake?
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yeah but it wasnt this fun though. i mean we had a bad guy and everyone was like omg kill the bad guy but now as other evidence unfolds...
dam, this $%( is awesome >:<
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I'm not sure 100% that you have scammed, that's happened to me before and i provide the winner with new key to move on, later i discovered that i was wrong and the first key was bad ,, anyway welcome to my WL.
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Use the appropriate avenues for support. If you have an issue with another user, submit a ticket with a user report, rather than calling them out within the community or on the forum.
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Hello,
I'm basically brand new to SteamGifts, and I fear I have just been a victim of a scammer. I bought Humble's latest indie bundle, and gifted one of the games. I provided the gift link in the GA itself, and I know the link was good as I checked it before I posted the GA. Well, after the GA was over, the winner claimed it was already claimed.
Am I being to quick to assume that the winner gave the link to a friend and then came right back here to tell me it was no good? Regardless, I bought another bundle and provided him with another gift link and he "apparently" was able to claim it this time. Great, gift received, let's move on!
Should I have just said tough luck to the winner, or did I do the right thing and provide another gift link?
Thanks,
CipherLoco
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