Bug: False Bundle Tag for Game (DGU: Death God University)

It was on sale on DIG for 20-25c so i guess +95% sale = bundled

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Since when do wholesalers matter? Do I assume right that this is actually only a guess of yours (just like you worded your comment)?

6 years ago

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It's a guess, but i'm pretty sure If you check the image they do say in the FAQ "if the game is highly discounted" I think that number is between 90-95% OFF retail sale, for example, heard multiple times people that bought steam gifts that were 90% off on steam, and they got added to the bundle list because in Russia it was 95% off ..

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As far as I know the game was never discounted that much - as stated in the original post (if you may follow my link). If it was reduced by 90-95%, that would explain it. And 1st November was the last day of the Halloween sale, but according to ITAD its lowest price on Steam was 3,39€ instead of 9,99€ - which indeed was first during said Halloween sale but is far from 95%.

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Like i said above it was on DIG for 0.20€-0.25€, it's not only steam sales, all legitimed bundle sites count, humble sales, DIG, Indiegala etc.. Heck even steamgrounds counts

http://prntscr.com/ib5es0 It's 10c now, so it's explained why it's added into the bundled list, and it's not a bug

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"bundle sites" - DIG does bundles, didn't they stop doing that some months back?
Again, since when does wholesale prices matter? And shouldn't be DIGs complete catalog be tagged as bundled then if it does?

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Bundle sites as in every site that sells keys from devs
Wholesale prices matter else people abuse cv, DIGs bundled or not bundled don't need to match the bundle on steamgifts, it's not bundled the game, they don't need to say that it doesn't give cv out here

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I'm sorry, I didn't get the second sentence. Would you mind rephrasing it, please?

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dingbat

plain english:

if a game is ever available from a legitimate retailer for 95% less than the U.S. retail price, it gets added to the bundle list.

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Ok, in this case, again: Shouldn't DIG's complete catalog (also G2A's, Kinguin's,... I don't know all their names) be tagged as bundled then if that's how it works? And how to decide on to when date it as retroactively bundled? The latter would seem quite arbitrary, wouldn't it.

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dingbat

King yin and G2A aren’t legitimate retailers
The retroactive date is the date that the game went on sale for such a low price. It actually isn’t arbitrary at all

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If you consider only shops as legitimate where prices are tracked on ITAD, then DIG isn't legitimate either. So if they aren't, why is DIG as GodFeelling is suggesting? Apart from that, I don't know about G2A but Kinguin seems pretty legitimate to me.
The question is how to pick a date if you don't know when the sale started? If the reason to make this a bundled game was indeed DIG, then how would you want to track the date when it's not listed on ITAD?

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Sorry that didn't made any sense now that i see it, oops
I meant that not all dig catalogue is bundled here because some 1$ games are 0.25$ they aren't actually at 90% sale, so it's considered unbundled here

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No problem. Sure, you're right. Let me be more specific then and say '(...) the complete catalog for games where this rule applies'. Because I'm quite sure that this is not really what is done. And as I've scrutinized in my reply to dingbat, how to decide which date to put in if games are added to the bundled list when you don't actually know when it was first sold for that reduced price.
My feeling tells me that it should be the date the game was added to the list, not some random date in the past which seems to be what happened in this case (...that's if there wasn't some yet to me unknown one day bundle or discount past November 1st).

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Loupou22

if you put games to be considered bundled at the time they were added to the list - then everyone would abuse the CV system and rush to get games given away before the mods notice that they have been bundled - so it is done retroactively to the point at which the game itself was bundled; this is as is should be, as that is when the game became bundled.
Also, there are thousands of games, and thousands of shops, so it is impossible to be able to keep up with every game that becomes bundled at the point that it was bundled - which is another reason the games are added to the list with the date that they became bundled.
You are not losing out on any CV here, as the date that is put in the bundled list is the date that the game became discounted enough to be considered bundled - and all of us are bound by this list to prevent any potential abuse.
There is not arbitrary nature to it - it is simply the date it was bundled at :)
hope that helps a little - but as an after thought, if you are giving games away solely for CV purposes, then you will always come up against these issues - sorry about that

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Thanks for the extensive explanation and I completely agree with the reasoning. This only covers the actually bundled games though which wasn't really up for discussion at this point since a google search reveals the actual bundle date and also because that's what is stated in the rules in the first place (or FAQ). 'Part of a bundle' though seems not to be the case for this game as far as I can tell and also according to GodFeelling's reasoning from over an hour ago.
So I was mainly talking about games that received shop discounts. If you include a game to the bundled list because it was highly discounted and you don't know when it was actually discountent - and if it's a shop that isn't tracked by ITAD - where would you know the date from and how to set one? This is what I meant by saying picking a random date is arbitrary when you choose a date that is three months and a few days in the past.
Also, I appreciate the afterthought though that's nothing I'm generally worried about or feel addressed by since typically I'm not even (at least not noticeably) affected by games suddenly being retroactively listed as bundled. And this time I only noticed because I actually dropped to the previous level. Hence me scrutinizing the before mentioned.

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Loupou22

every game that gets a discount above a certain threshold becomes "bundled" - it does not need to be in a bundle - so don't get hung up on the word and its association with actual bundles.
ITAD is fallible, like our mods, and does not contain all information - for instance if a discount of a game gets above 95% in the russian stores, when compared with US price, then it is considered bundled - as it is so cheap that it will undoubtedly appear in droves on shops like DIG and also in later actual bundles
hope that helps

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