I recently bought a gift copy of Magicka in preparation to give it to my giveaway group. However, when I was about to create the giveaway, it said it was listed as a bundle game.

I researched it, and found out it was from a bundle in January.

At what point are games no longer considered bundle games? At this point I would assume it's just people who purchased a gift copy for the purpose of giveaways, and CV should be proper for that.

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Once it gets bundled, it never unbundles.

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Not true, some games got removed!

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Hate to break it to you

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Bunlded4Eva

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Once you go Bundle you never go back, for better or worse. (Better)

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First three answers = Best three answers.

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It is just some people are lingering with hundreds of keys from bundles and waiting for the miracle of unbundling to happen...

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Not so much that, but traders that bought dozens of old bundles and don't feel like waiting to offload them anymore. Just go to steamtrades and look how many people are advertising old bundles for sale.

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It doesn't need to be thousands, or even hundreds. Ten bundles would net someone an easy $500 - $1000 CV.

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I literally have over 1000 bundle keys. I yearn for the Unbundling Times.
When my CV once again strides the Earth, as the Titans of old once did.

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It doesn't work that way just about every keys from indie bundles are only good for a few months as best that why Steam gift need to change it.

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generally not the case.

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I've used keys around a year after I bought the bundle. So that's false.

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Wrong I give away a few keys that going bad even Desura keys to

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Sounds like bad keys. That happens sometimes, especially with Indie Gala. Game keys themselves do not expire. At least for Steam... idk how it is for Desura.

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Wrong. Most bundle keys do not expire. It is VERY RARE exceptions that do.

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Tomorrow

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The day after that.

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And the day after that

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28 weeks later

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The day after tomorrow.

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28 months later

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Give away more non-bundle games and then you won't have to worry about bundle games affecting your contribution value. I mean, if you're concerned about that.

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there must be a difference between gift copy and key thats all i gotta say

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that would be awesome..

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If let's say gift copy gave full contribution, people would choose that even if they had the game as a key. You can't rely on people being honest enough to not do that.

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^This.

It would also be a nightmare for support trying to police the system. People just need to accept that this happens, and suck it in.

Just because a game won't net you any CV is a pretty lame reason not to give it away. FFS. Remind me of the site's name...

Is it Steamgiftsor Steamobsessingandwhiningovercontributorvalue?

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Pretty much this. It would be nice, especially with games that have 3 or 4 packs, but the trouble far, far outweighs how much benefit it would bring.

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Weird, apparently I have the SO&WOCV+ addon.

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Strange. A lot of people seem to be using this add-on, despite it coming with a mandatory -NOJOY command line switch...

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They should just make all the bundles one steam key instead of all the individual game keys

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That would be annoying, since I want to give the keys for games I already have, to my friends.

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And you're willing to check every single inventory?

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I assume the computer would handle that job while you'd lean back and sip some tea.

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If you can figure out a program that would do it, then go right ahead, but as far as I know, there's no easy way to automate checking. And you can't have it rely on the honor of the giver and recipient for a number of reasons. there would need to be a third party checking.

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Very much so. There are a rump of Steamgifters have shown themselves to be about as honourable as a pack of jackals at a meat raffle, and any system has to be completely watertight. One in which a gifter can keep a tradeable copy in his/her inventory while passing off a succession of bundle keys as giftable copies would not pass muster.

The best solution is to simply give stuff because you want to give it, or aren't going to use it yourself. Wasn't that the original aim of the site, rather than becoming a tooth-and-nail battle to accumulate as much personal reward as possible, using giveaways as a primary means to scale up a greasy CV pole?

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If we use something like PB's bot system, that could work. Except it would increase the amount required to keep this site up.

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well you have to activate it in your library so it makes no difference

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it does make difference :) u paid more for the gift and less for the key

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for the winner i don't think they care if its a code or gift as long as they get it.

and why did you reply to my 3 month old post xDD

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lol idk :D i just did :D

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For the contributor it mean, at least they do paid more and hope to get more contributor value.
Gameminer had a system with handle Gifts as SteamGifts is the best among all, surely it can come out something.

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2042

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What you need to understand is that if you give away enough non-bundled games, you get full credit for your bundled giveaways. Don't be discouraged from giving just because you're not getting the full value now.

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The things is you get no contributor value for other then I believe it was some like $30 only and I think the min need $1 per-game from bundled games other then DLC which I think should go with game from that bundled.

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........What? Just follow yupignome's advice, it was understandable..

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Bundled games can only contribute a maximum of 20% to your CV. Give away $80 of unbundled games, and $20 worth of bundled games count as $20. Give away $40 of unbundled, and $20 "worth" of bundled games count as only $10. (first $30 is exempt, which is why you see a lot of giveaways with a contributor requirement of $30.01).

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The problem is a lot of people judge you based on your CV ._.

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don't care about what others think

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Huh? They can judge me all they want - who gives a damn?

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Yeah but really unless you go out of your way to buy a lot of non-bundle games most people are probably never going to get their non-bundle value anywhere near high enough to get the full value. If you give away a bundle game you just have to accept you will probably never really gain CV from it.

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Another issue is that when people attempt to register, bundle games aren't taken into consideration toward their account value. If someone created a bunch of alts with cheap, older bundles, and they were removed from the bundle list, they would then be able to register those accounts.

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really? my gf made an account a couple months ago and at the time I think she only had bundled games (I know she definitely didn't have $100 worth of non bundled games). I understand how that could be a problem tho.

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hmm if I remember right my non bundle value was ~$35 when i registered(I believe my non bundles were portal, terraria, and one other game) .. I had the humble indie bundle 4 filling up my value then which barely pushed me high enough to join

was that change for registering fairly recent?

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Recent change. It used to give you a reduced value for bundle games. Now it gives none.

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Is there any way for registered users to see what the non-bundle value of their account is? I'm just curious. I've looked at some other Steam profile calculators and I'd like to know the difference. I know my little brother's account is stuck at about $29.

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Nope

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If you really need it, you can calculate it yourself or use spreadsheets.

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Nah, I was just curious. So many things have been bundled, that I'm not sure I'd even hit the $100 mark any more. I think I have just enough low value, older, non-bundled games that I'd be safe.

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Wouldn't it be better to at least give 20 cents value per bundle game? That's pretty much what they are worth in the actual bundles anyway.

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Closed 1 decade ago by itssawyeryall.