So I'm sure nobody even realized this because maybe 5 people bought the game, but the creator of Ball2D/Ball3D had his games pulled from steam because he was offering in game currency that you normally buy for people who give good reviews on his games(apparently that's against Steam's ToS but whatever).

So Ball2D came out on September 8th. I bought one copy for myself and one copy for my friend. Then I bought 20 copies to giveaway on steamgifts. The game was on sale for $0.95, and I wouldn't bother if it were just the two copies. BUT I bought 22 copies of a game, less than a month ago, of a game that the developer is saying is going to be free from now on. I contacted the developer and he said he can't refund my money, nor will steam do refunds(from what he said). I put in a refund request on steam, even though it says purchases after 14 days don't normally get refunded.

Personally I think it's BS to buy a game on the release day, and less than a month later it's going free to play on his own personal site while this guy walks off with peoples money.

wat do

also i know $20 isn't much but to me it is so. :)

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should i be able to get a refund on this game?

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I agree that's stupid to sell a game for 0,95$ and let it go free to play not even a month later.
You should get a refund but I doubt you will get one :(

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If you have already given away the games, I'd highly doubt it. Perhaps if it was still in your inventory (when you could do that) steam support would be willing to refund you, as they have refunded me past the 14 day deadline in the past (I was on vacation during a sale, and made purchases using my phone app and didn't return home until it was past 14 days).

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I voted no. As far as I can see, you bought a game that provides what was advertised.
Any developer/publisher is free to change the price of their game or make it available for free.
Is it a decent move to do so within a month? - No.
Will it get the developer negative PR? -Probably no, game seems to be too small.

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It's the same argument of buying a game on release versus waiting for it to go on sale. At the current time you thought you are getting your money's worth, so you bought it. If you are unhappy with this decision then those $20 are a lesson for you in the future to think twice before spending them.

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Buying 22 copies on releasedate then it becomes free 1 month later vs buying a game for full price then in the future it will be on sale. How is that even same comparison?

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It's a deal either way, a price being cut, or are you under the impression if a game goes free to play, it loses all value?

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I mean if people bought Skyrim the day it was released then it went free to play a month later there would be massive blow back on the developer. But since it's a $1 poorly made indie game that maybe 5 people bought, who cares.

It's not about the money, it's about the moral ethics that these two bit developers think they can get away with anything without taking a hit to their wallets.

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A similar thing happened to me with King's Quest Episode 1. At first it was like $10, then during a Steam Summer Sale (or Xmas sale don't remember exactly any more) it was on sale for $1, which I thought was good opportunity to give away a few copies to see what others thought about it and maybe eventually get the whole game (all episodes) for myself at some point. Then, after a while (probably not within a month, but I don't think it was more than 2 months), they made the whole first episode free, basically making my giveaways almost worthless except that my winners got it a bit earlier than everyone else. It's not nice for someone who buys stuff, but I guess it happens. Then again, I did not buy 20 copies, so it's not that much of a big deal either.

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With the exception of episodic games which end up having their development stall after the first episode or two, or indie games with only a two or three total episodes, it seems like every episodic game released post-Grimm has eventually moved to a free-first-episode approach. Life is Strange, Capcom, Sierra, Telltale.. by this point, it's generally pretty safe to assume that the initial episode of any game is likely to go free after a short time.

Not that you (or anyone else) could have been expected to have had much awareness of that back then, but it does seems to be the consideration that we should keep in mind moving forward.

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Good point. Certainly something to keep in mind. Just because you mentioned Telltale: I don't think there's any Telltale episodic game free on Steam indefinitely, e.g. "The Walking Dead" was free for some time, but does have a price on Steam now. Are there any that have gone free indefinitely? Also, if it was free for some time, but does have a price on Steam now, shouldn't folks who've given it away before it became free still retain their CV according to the current Steam value? Just like bundle games given away before they were bundled count as non bundled for CV?

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Oh, I suppose you're right, Telltale doesn't qualify if we're talking Steam games;
The first episode of most of their games are indefinitely free on mobile platforms, and I ended up mentally transitioning that to a more universal thing. Whoops. :P

And yeah, that should be how they work on SG.

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As much as I'd like to agree with you, no. You shouldn't get a refund, because it was your responsibility to purchase the game when you did. It's an extremely shitty situation and dev, but that's just how things are in the gaming industry. You don't get refunds when a game you pre-ordered goes on sale a few months later, so you probably can't get refunded when a game goes free to play.

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I think it's illegal to change price in the first 30 days and Steam has to follow those laws too. Sooo... you have a couple of days to see what to do. Like, 7 days.

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apparently that's against Steam's ToS but whatever

apparently ? whatever ? are you serious ?

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to bribe reviewers? makes sense

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No.

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