here is the correct version

link to private ga inside for solvers ;)

have fun

edit: i hat a little error in the second one (forgot to divide by sqrt(5)), puzzle link updated to correct version

hints:

Q1

  • it is a division scheme, i just saw there are some other notations, so just compare wikipedia articles german and english to get the right notation (which is the german one)

  • try to narrow down the possible numbers for each line by using the structure of the scheme, it can be solved analytically with pen and paper

  • another digit is only "pulled down", if the current number is smaller than the divisor, so in every line of the scheme the number is smaller than 10 times the divisor

  • there is an (almost) correct solution i consider as correct enough to be accepted as a solution, you may enter it here to get the correct one

Q2

  • try not to calculate the actual fibonacci number (you would need about 500 petabytes of memory just to store it / more than all paper on the world to write it down)

  • you need sqrt(5) somewhere in the calculations

  • wiki article might help

  • all calculations can be done with http://www.wolframalpha.com

solution_Q2

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This one doesn't look easy :D

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7 solvers, 2 entries by now; updated

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bump

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bump, cmon, its not that hard :)

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updated

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updated again

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1 week left

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more solvers please

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updated

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updated

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it's too hard :(

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Math is not supposed to be easy :)

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it can be done with school math, pen, paper and a scientific calculator

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Darn.. I'm not going to buy a scientific calculator to solve this :|

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try www.wolframalpha.com ;) far more powerful than the calculator

10 years ago
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please don't give hints too soon. It seems I am close to breaking the 1st part :)

Edit: 1st part done

10 years ago
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ok, grats on solution of first part

if no one gets both, i split the puzzle, so every one who gets one can enter :)

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Bump for solved

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grats :)

sorry for setting the time for the ga so long, but i did't expect solutions that quick ;)

i created another giveaway for fast solvers :)

10 years ago
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it looks like a great puzzle but i need a paper, a pencil and some free time to solve this.
well, i got free time.
looks around for paper and pencil
meh

10 years ago
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hm. Are you sure that you set the 2nd answer right?

10 years ago
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i'll check it again....

you're right, i forgot to divide by sqrt(5)

use the updated link

10 years ago
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I have already solved in a wrong way :) Btw sqrt(5)is a good hint for those who are still trying.

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i did a extra ga for fast ones, be sure to not miss it :) link

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Thanks

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borisu solved it and i double-cheked, corrected the error in the second one, so everything should be fine now ;)

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hint: there are no leading 0s in the first part

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there is a solution which is almost correct, but does produce 2 additional lines of 0s, if you very strictly apply the rules.

i accept this (almost) correct solution, just enter it here to get the correct one

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Overflow for q2 :((((

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since i am a computer scientist, i did choose appropriate numbers to prevent solutions by simple programs ;)

do not try to calculate the 12345678901234567890th fibonacci number unless you have the ~500 petabytes of memory to store it ;) - you only need the first 10 digits for the solution ;)

the first part can be done with pure paper+pencil - or with the computer

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I did the first part analytically, mostly.
As for fibonacci, I'm looking for a good approach.
Edit: found!

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grats :)

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I will be back for this, I have an extreme urge to solve this...

10 years ago
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i set the ga to 4 weeks, so you have plenty of time :)

10 years ago
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Bump for solved, even the incorrect one :P. Nice puzzle!

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I think this puzzle need a little bump :)

10 years ago
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Can you give more detailed instructions for the first question? Is the colon supposed to be an operator (division maybe)? And is going down supposed to be subtraction? What is the relationship between the numbers supposed to be? And are there any rules about repeating digits within each number?

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its a division scheme, just as you lear in school in 3rd grade or so. going down you have subtractions.
i just saw, the "long division" is a bit different.
just compare wikipedia articles german and english to get the right notation

ill give an example:

5043:41=123

41

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94

82

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123

123

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no rules about repeating digits.
there are no leading 0s.

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WHAT IS THIS SATAN

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such great things as fibonacci numbers are from heaven, not hell ;)

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2 and 3 are too easy, not sure about 1 yet, may come back later.

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i considered 1 to be the easier one

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Bump for solved :D

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Well, I solved question number 3 but that's it, haha. This puzzle definitely is nothing for me.

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then you lied at Q3 ;)

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Well, I never said I was speaking the truth :b

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is it too hard?

shall i split the 2 questions, so you can enter if you solve one?

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Can't say if really too hard, didn't start solving yet - not enough free time (good it's 3 weeks long, as it is nice puzzle). After quick glance, it looks that with hints shouldn't be that hard (I didn't know there are different notations for Q1). I'll definitely give it a go - i like math :)

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ok, then i'll wait until there is one week left. if there are less than 5 entries then, i do the split - if there are more then i wont spoil their good winning chances by letting too many competitors in ;)

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Now you have 10 solvers )

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Tried to calculate Fibonacci number using online calculators. One of them returned the answer: "Fibo(12345678901234567890) has about 2580094300852962300 decimals. Have fun computing that." :D :D :D

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jup...about 500 petabytes of memory just to store it ;) - but you only need the first 10 digits, so forget about the rest of the numbers and do a good approximation ;)

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well... you make honor to your nickname. have a bump, not even gonna try.

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Solved Q2 and Q3, but it won't accept my answer for Q1.

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did you use the correct format? 1234567:123=123456

sure you got the correct solution?

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Yeah, I used the correct format. I also checked my solution and it works.

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no leading 0s?

as far as i know the is only one solution.

solution fits scheme in every line?

if you want, you can add me in steam and post your solution via steam chat, so i can check it and give you the link if there really is a second solution fitting the scheme correctly

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I guess I'll do that then.

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Bump for solved :)

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My calc is dying in second one. All I get as answer is infinity :)

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first hint of Q2:

try not to calculate the actual fibonacci number (you would need about 500 petabytes of memory just to store it / more than all paper on the world to write it down)

since i am a computer scientist, i did choose the numbers to prevent such solution attemts ;)

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bump

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Have a bump :)

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thx :)

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I had problem in second part,it was fun.

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Closed 10 years ago by bolzano.