Agree?
Not to mention everyone can say afterwards "oh it was a mistake" let winner agree with a deletion, and move on.
Others that found some "loopholes" as in stuff that isn't added to a list, in the meantime still think they will level up from it and continue to give free stuff, and there are plenty of those.
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I actually prefer the current solution. Not going to bother checking up if the game was free or not - i paid once for them, i don't need em, i don't care about points, i just give them away.
Currently i assume your main point is the spam after free giveaways, but that will sooner or later end when "those people" realize that they can not gain any points with these giveaways, no?
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Your situation is what it should be for, and no it will never end, because some games aren't added to a list, especially new stuff that is giving away, that will never end, and there will always be new people that don't know about it and try it too.
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Wich is why i think about warning. or someting.
I imagine a bunch of people don't even realize they will lose cv for this kinda of GA later on- still lots more enter then unaware they're being given away for free elsewhere. Further im sure some don't realize afterwards even, ive seen in the foruns every once in awhile people not noticing or understanding much simpler things.
No warnings mean they will keep doing it. People unaware will keep entering... so on and so forth.
Its impossible to stop. THere will always be newcomers doing it but if we can slow down those who repeatedly do so... i think its worth a shot. Not sure but worth a shot on my view.
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Yep, i can see your point. As replied to Vincer, a cap limit on such giveaways might be a solution that doesn't come with any downside for the staff.
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Im with you. Im glad now i can GA keys that don't worth CV anymore since i always hated dropping keys on topics - because im certain there are bots scripts and the like catching some of those.
But the spam is terrible. Ive won a free game once, entered a whole bunch of gas for it and later found the source- still kicking.
But many people never realize they're not gaining anything with it or are savvy and hope that title will be ignored from the list. The first ones would learn with warning and the latter ones wouldn't risk second warnings and so forth- currently theres nothing to loose for trying.
Imagine yourself in their place: 'chances are this will be added to the list and give me no cv... but theres a chance it will slip'
Theres no cost for keeping doing it.
But if you were warned then things would change- now doing it again would have an risk.
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That was exactly my "problem" as well.
But if they don't get CV in the first place, does it really matter? Even if the source of the free keys is still online, let them give it away - at least this way we got a centralized GA site for all of them, and we don't have to look them up all the time - if you're into collecting / +1'ing / whatever.
I dunno, chances are the majority of keys won't give any CV, so in the end they're doing the site a service.
Your suggestion towards moderation of such things comes with quite some excessive man hours, for basically no good return.
May i suggest something else?
Cap limit for free giveaways of a certain game, this way the spam gets reduced, and there's no additional moderation and what not required.
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Hm... cap, that could work.
Of course if that means man-hours then its a no-go - all of this is on the assumption that it would be easy to mass warm, but idn how is the cms and usability on the moderators/owners side. Technically an query (title of gas on such day) then some sort of 'select all', send warning. Im note code savvy enought to script it myself but if the admin tools don't have this kind of usability it could be made into a simple code- looking at all the stuff that goes on the site whoever made this all work certainly know how to automate this kind of process.
Warning one by one would be insane and unfeasible.
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The thing is the act of removing a game from the giveaway list while it is still actively free actually just makes things worse because users who are either ignorant or just don't care about the proper guidelines will often make a giveaway for the wrong game and then pass it off as that (and it often incorrectly get marked as received by the winner to boot). Yeah, they are not doing the right thing but it was also the conscious decision on the part of the staff to remove the game that indirectly leads to this. I mean if these games don't yield any contributor value or affect point generation anymore and are going to be re-added soon thereafter anyway, then what's the point of removing them in the first place?? If it's over concern of the site being flooded with said free game(s) well we have the option to hide games for a reason. As I said elsewhere, it opens up a can of worms and makes the users of site who want to enter legitimate giveaways with their limited points have to tiptoe through an often muddled and ambiguous minefield.
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I may have entered half a dozen GAs of a game (wishlisted btw) before ive found out it was being given away for free.
Not the first time this happens- and now with the new generation of points it was even worse.
(Ps: btw i won one such game once, if im not mistaken).
I don't know what are the rules regarding this- i imagine they're cancelled eventually, idn what happens to the points... but that ain't my point here.
The thing is it baffles me how many users so cheaply do that.
Im guessing theres no warning or suspension from doing so otherwise it wouldn't happen every single time with every single mass free giveaway.
Makes me wonder if warning followed by suspension (and maybe worse further) wouldn't be a good move. Do it once warning, twice suspension, once again longer suspension warning of incoming ban... something like that?
What pisses me is the soon to end GAs one doesn't enter because of the fake GAs - and how morally wrong and disrespectful to the sites idea it is.
For me its bad and nonsense having to suspect of any GAs and checking foruns just to be sure. Im against any and all dodgy maneuvers to try to game the site (making gas for packages of higher value and 'non bundled' is another example).
Of course if its already that way disregard all this.
If not we should consider a heavier hand.
Obviously warning and suspensions would come after the fact, i imagine it can be easy to list all gas of a title made on a particular day and such.
Ps: im one of the defenders of allowing to GA games that don't give CV and glad its now a option - but oviously the flood of free games given away when they're being given away is no sharing/gifting spirit.
Obviously cases of limited offers and gas after the offer isn't available anymore shouldn't count.
Am i wrong? Anyone agree?
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