I tried to give the first one a chance, mostly because I never felt any deep affinity for TOS (I grew up on TNG) but I just couldn't find the things I always appreciated about Roddenberry's Trek.I say that being a huge fan of DS9 which he had nothing to do with, so it's not just that.
Granted, the bar for sci-fi movies is set pretty low, considering how awful most of them are. I'm not very fond of Christopher Pine, but I thought Zachary Quinto did a great job as spock, I'm a big fan of Simon Pegg, and I thought the special effects and set design were very well done. For a reboot, it really wasn't a bad movie.
The second one was much better, though. Since they didn't have to waste time establishing these actors as characters that you already know, they could spend a lot more time crafting an interesting story. Of course, it will be nice when they make a new Star Trek movie that's completely independent of the old universe stuff, but I doubt that will ever happen. Movie studios are terrified of having sequels that don't make fan-service references as much as possible.
See, the presence of Pegg, Quinto(loved him in Heroes), and Karl Urban as McCoy made me give the first one a chance. I thought Zoe Saldana did a nice job as Uhura but I was also realizing how little they gave Nichelle Nicols to do in the old movies anyhow, so maybe that's one place where they improved on the old formula.
I really like Cumberbatch but I just couldn't see him as Khan. Not to mention I don't like Hollywood "whitewashing" when it happens, unless there's a purpose behind the action.
I wish they hadn't bothered redoing Khan, but Cumberbatch made an excellent bad guy. But there's really no replacing Ricardo Montalban, especially since The Wrath of Khan still holds up quite well.
Still, you should give the second one a shot sometime when you're bored. If nothing else, just pretend its not a Star Trek movie and enjoy it as a actiony Sci-Fi movie.
Thanks, love the aesthetics of this one:)
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Its mine, you can't have it! :)
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But I have Captain Janeway and a puppy on my side.
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I see your Captain Janeway with a puppy, and raise you Captain Kirk with a unicorn dog:
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I give you Captain Sisko and LT Dax with...tribbles.
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Unrelated, but I just re-watched Wrath of Khan and remembered why I liked Kirk. Well the real Kirk, not Abrams pretty-boy imitation.
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I really enjoyed Abrams' Star Trek movies, but the classic ones still hold up pretty well. They were always kind of hammy, so it works.
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I tried to give the first one a chance, mostly because I never felt any deep affinity for TOS (I grew up on TNG) but I just couldn't find the things I always appreciated about Roddenberry's Trek.I say that being a huge fan of DS9 which he had nothing to do with, so it's not just that.
What did you enjoy about them?
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Granted, the bar for sci-fi movies is set pretty low, considering how awful most of them are. I'm not very fond of Christopher Pine, but I thought Zachary Quinto did a great job as spock, I'm a big fan of Simon Pegg, and I thought the special effects and set design were very well done. For a reboot, it really wasn't a bad movie.
The second one was much better, though. Since they didn't have to waste time establishing these actors as characters that you already know, they could spend a lot more time crafting an interesting story. Of course, it will be nice when they make a new Star Trek movie that's completely independent of the old universe stuff, but I doubt that will ever happen. Movie studios are terrified of having sequels that don't make fan-service references as much as possible.
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See, the presence of Pegg, Quinto(loved him in Heroes), and Karl Urban as McCoy made me give the first one a chance. I thought Zoe Saldana did a nice job as Uhura but I was also realizing how little they gave Nichelle Nicols to do in the old movies anyhow, so maybe that's one place where they improved on the old formula.
I really like Cumberbatch but I just couldn't see him as Khan. Not to mention I don't like Hollywood "whitewashing" when it happens, unless there's a purpose behind the action.
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I wish they hadn't bothered redoing Khan, but Cumberbatch made an excellent bad guy. But there's really no replacing Ricardo Montalban, especially since The Wrath of Khan still holds up quite well.
Still, you should give the second one a shot sometime when you're bored. If nothing else, just pretend its not a Star Trek movie and enjoy it as a actiony Sci-Fi movie.
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I think WoK and The Undiscovered Country are my two favorite classic Trek movies. First Contact is my favorite overall, though.
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Thank you very much for the gift!
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You're welcome. Enjoy it :)
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