Is that only me?

This is the internet, best get used to it.

for every 10 nice users, you will always find a bitter idiot. that's how things work.

unfortunately it takes time to ban them. -.-

some of them are ungrateful

A vocal minority does not a majority make. There are plenty of us that don't care about ratios, or at the very least, have pretty low standards. It's my personal belief that it's a silly thing to worry about. This is indeed Steamgifts. If everyone had a 1-1 ratio here, it would be Steam-random-trading instead. I always chuckle when I see the occasional group starting out that has a rule that their in-group ratios must be higher than 1-1.

I think there are some terrible people here, but given that it's on the internet, that's expected. As someone with a ton more sent than won, I know that someone has to win those gifts I've sent and therefore someone has to have more won than sent (okay, it's a bit more complicated, but I'm too rushed at the moment to articulate better) but some people are especially terrible (rulebreakers, people who attack others for no reason, etc.). Overall, though, this community is great.

just like in r34l life, some people are jerks, some people are cool, some people fell entitled to opinions over others, some are chill, personally i learn trough life that is better just not to bother with the people you dont "like", to give it a simple term, care about the good ones and move on. You'll live longer, in the end this is a site about generosity, its very hard to find a*holes here :P

Unfortunately you probably gonna get blacklisted by some peeps for postings things like these, peeps dont like to hear that their pointy personality might unnerve a fellow human being, if they even consider you one.

Good luck.

True that. There are good users too, but yeah, there are bitter people too.

That is why I do most of my gifting directly. Levels and CV doesn't matter to me much. It has become the proverbial carrot to a lot of users.

Edit: Sent you a friend request. I have a small something from your wishlist. Just a random "because I can" moment.

Nice quote, i like it.

Well some people feel that way, not much we can do :p

Giving games to people who give games is not what steamgifts supposed to be like. Not talking about high-lvl appreciation.

I've never blacklisted because of ratio, but I can see why some people are annoyed by people who never say anything on the forum or interact with the community, and who just sits back and tries to win games. But I do understand that not everyone can give a lot of games (heck, I grew up poor (by Swedish standards), I know full well how it is to not have enough money to buy games or other nice things for myself), but showing that you're willing to at least make a bit of an effort to give something back, even if it's just some bundle leftovers, does go a long way to show that you're not just here to leech.

And there is actually a very easy way to exclude people who don't give: Increase the level of your giveaways
And if you want to prevent people with "bad" ratios (whatever you think bad is), you can just use SGtools So no need to blacklist over these kinds of things.

edit one group of "bad ratio people" that does rub me the wrong way though are people who own a lot of expensive games, and who have won a lot of games, yet have never given anything back

This is one of the reasons why i gave up on this community (you can see on my profile that i quit giving away and literally started leeching instead). It will just keep getting worst in the years to come, trust me. I've been overall active throughout the years, despite not commenting much like some other people. I do lurk the forums from time to time now, and comment mostly on topics like this. Because it's sad really... The purpose of this website seems to be lost in the void now.

Last time i commented something like this, i noticed i got blacklisted by at least 4 users that replied to me acting like they know me, they probably think i care about their bundle giveaways, let me tell you this (to the people who will blacklist me for this comment and to the ones who did previously), the amount of care i have for your giveaways is non existant. There will always be bundle giveaways on this website, there will always be wins for bundled games, i really don't care if you blacklist me to prevent me from winning said bundled games, i can buy them myself if i wanted to, which i don't since i don't have the need to.

Now i'll be waiting on the cyber police comments to show up. There are way too many users here that worry about my life more than theirs, to the point of making (deep) investigations and assuming people for what they see without knowing any of the background. This reminds me of those old ladies that stare at you in the streets and start commenting things as you pass by, it's exactly the samething here!

Btw, this topic of yours will most likely get you blacklisted by someone. I can guarantee you this. And that person isn't me obviously. Just a heads up!

If people want to determine who they give their games to, that's totally fine with me. Nobody should expect a random stranger to be obligated to include them in their giveaways. If you buy a game, it's totally fair that you get to decide what to do with it, and I would be ashamed to make a thread like this complaining about it.

it can't be perfect, it gets into balance once u find the people that fits more your personality, we have a lot of people so u will tend to find some people that u dont like and u will find some people that u think are awesome and worth your time, u have to deal with "abnoxious people " from time to time but in general we have an awesome community once u meet the really awesome and kind people in here :3 ~

I understand your point perfectly and so far i can tell you that just be patient and learn how to deal with everything around here and u just will be in comfort in no time :D

All I got out of that was You.

On a more serious note, unfortunately those "ungrateful" people are mostly users who don't give away any games or only very few; at least that's something I personally have noticed. I think I don't understand your problem 100% though; I have never seen anyone "show off" with their ratio, at least I can't recall seeing someone like that around here..

Ok, let's go point by point by what you say, as you said quite a lot.:

some of them are ungrateful

there are hundreds of thousands of registered users on SG. At least 10+ thousands visiting daily. Ofc in such a pool you will find some ungrateful users as well as some very generous users. Some smart, some stupid. Pointing that "some" users out of thousands are XYZ is pointless. Ofc you will find whatever trait you want, positive or negative in thousands of random people...

 I also heard today that I shouldn't expect to win anything because I didn't give enough

From your topic, vast maajority, like almost everyone, were not talking what you imply here. They were saying you shouldn't expect to win a lot since you don't give away enough, not that you shouldn't win anything. That makes a pretty big difference over agenda you try to push in your post. You post like they were attacking you, they simply told you, you say nothing, they say not a lot. See the difference? It's pretty normal in any gamified system that people who participate and support the system a lot benefit more.

 I've seen people blacklisting others [...]

Anyone can blacklist anyone for whatever reason they feel like. Someone can blacklist you because they don't like your avatar - and you know what? It's fine. Because in the end it's their own hard earned money they buy games for their giveaways with. If they pay the money they have every right to choose who they want and who they don't want to enter their GiveAways. They want to make puzzle? They want to whitelist someone? They want to blacklist someone? It's their choice. Guess what would happen if people were not able to choose? Would they gladly give their games, their own money to people they don't like, just because you say so? No - they would stop giving, switch to WhiteList GAs only etc. You got blacklisted? Happens - this person doesn't want to give his games to you and he has every right to do so, as well as you have the right to choose who you don't want your money to go to.

Seen a guy who won 41 games and gave nothing.

Honestly, in today world unless you live in country that is blocked by everything like Syria for example there is no excuse to give nothing to the community other than just being a cheap arsehole. Period. To join SG you need 100$ non-bundled games. To be a PC gamer you need at least hundreds of dollars worth hardware. not to mention that we basically get free steam money with cards, can farm games for free at tremor, can trade our bundle leftovers or just give them away, can earn free store credit in stores like GMG or GG and so on and on. If someone cannot give 1$ back over the course of years - it's not because he cannot. It's because he doesn't want to. It's fine - it's not against the site rules. But there's also nothing wrong with someone pointing it to/about them, because that is simply the fact.

Seen people who behave like they are kings and masters of this world because all they do in their lives is buying bundles and giving them away.

And now you're again overexaggerating - vast majority of response you got may not have been the responses you expected, but surely were far far away from what you indicate here.

Isn't that site about giving?

If I would like to be a cheap bastard I would ask you now - if you say so why don't you give more away yourself? This site is as much about giving as about winning, about being a part of the community and about whole community aka every user himself. And every user can have his own opinion - for example he may believe that someone with 100 wins, 1 GA ever and 0 comments is a leecher the same way you believe that someone is attacking you because you didn't give away enough. Why is that so that your opinion should be ok, because this site is about giving, but his opinion is not okay, because if he say so he is to quote you " behaving like he is kings and masters of this world"

You all want respect and You want respect even when You hurt someone else?

Most of commenter on your thread treated you with respect. You mistake not agreeing with you for not being respectful.

I think You don't understand that when You give and then You behave like that You simply look like an a**.

And now you show us exactly how respectful you are calling other people a** ;)

I kinda have enough of this community

If you cannot stand the community just on the basis that not everyone agree with you, bow you or heck, treat you like a queen, who is forcing you to stay? You shown nothing but a negative attitude here - so heck, the community itself will not be hurt but you missing it. You act entitled, yet you have no basis to act this way. You act offensive yet claim that you're the one being offended. You quote Mother Teresa to refer to your position - and to this I don't even have an answer, because this is way above even the biggest level of entitlement.

Over and Out.

For your issue, unless there's a thread I missed and didn't read, it seems like there's a private issue you're talking about and are venting out. No problem about that since this is a place where everyone can talk about the community (even though I feel that what you're talking about is a small subsect in it).

I don't know if you're referring to a specific thread, but I've only ever seen this behaviour in threads of people complaining that they never win, even though they've won like 3 public GAs with low chances in their first weeks (maybe haven't even played the games) and given nothing yet, and usually it's more about them opening a thread and whining instead of accepting that it takes time and your chances are better with higher level GAs (it's not really about "you have to give more if want to win anything", but "you should give something if you want better chances at winning something").
It may be a bit heightened because most active forum users give more than they win, or at least close to that, and it feels like every other day someone new complains (to them) about not winning enough. And sometimes this essentially comes across as begging ("Please make more GAs so I can win more").

I sometimes make low level forum GAs, but I've mostly been disappointed with the lower level users who won - either rule breakers I had to re-roll, rule-breakers I couldn't re-roll because it was too long ago, or people with terrible, terrible ratios (like 200 won, 0 given) - I don't blacklist for ratios, but I've since started to restrict my GAs for higher-value games (= non-bundles, bought specifically to give away), especially if I still want to keep them open to lower levels.

Generally, I think it's okay to just enter/win and not give anything if you can't afford to, but at a certain point it seems even to those users it's more about winning than actually getting some games they wanted and couldn't afford - did that user with 200 wins and 0 giveaways really want and play all 200 games? Do they really need more? And can they really not afford/do they not want to give anything back to the community that provided them with hundreds, possibly thousands of hours of free entertainment? (there are ways to do that basically for free, there's a thread somewhere).

It's late, I'm kind of tired, sorry for the wall of text and maybe getting off-topic (and by now, probably repeating what others already wrote)

When someone has 40 wins over the past year, and only ever played 1 of them, I don't want to gift to them.

I want at least the illusion that my gifts will get played someday.
Wasteland 2 . . . ;_; ;_;

The community is what you make of it. There's nothing more to say.

Why does it always seem like I miss the drama :/.

Mother Theresa, really?, not a fan of her.

If you have a thin skin, you won't make it long here.
Toughen up some. Also, insulting the community won't get you anywhere good.
There are some bad eggs, for sure, but most of us aren't that bad. ;)

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Give what you can.
Win a few games.
Have fun.
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