They are mad that they don't know how to read the FAQ section. Don't let it bother you too much. Thanks for the giveaways. :)
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Don't let it bother you too much
Nowadays I don't really get bothered too much by the Internet, especially after seeing enough dramas, I wasn't even remotely surprised by what he posted there. There are lots of more important things for me to worry about, life has to go on.
Good luck.
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It's always the few who ruin it for the many... don't hold a grudge, in every society there are those who struggle to show decency, to put it mildly. But it's the majority of the people that treat each other well that counts ^^
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as this is an invite only giveaway... you might want to add if its ok to join through that link or not...
else... nice trap if its done with sgtools...
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The giveaway in question already ended over 1 week ago, and cannot be reached through the link.
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Thanks for the ride :)
That's a new one. I do plenty of re-rolls (sorry support) and all I got was blacklists.
Have a nice day nonetheless & enjoy the view of a star cluster:
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(sorry support too, I do a lot of re-roll requests, almost half of which declined)
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You get the occasional ones from time to time. The best are the ones who are offended if you tell them you rerolled because they broke a rule. Still, altogether, there seem to be less jackasses now, or they just win less with the crackdown on the autojoin scripts.
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just win less with the crackdown on the autojoin scripts.
that would really be a blessing
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It takes all sorts, and some folk can't admit when they've made a mistake or ignored a rule. Don't let it get to you.
Bump!
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poor stupid useless leech missed a win.
at least he will get free blacklists now
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I don't get it, "yellow dog"?
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Not sure why anybody would use it as an insult
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Dogs are beautiful, their fur has a large diversity of colors. :P
Ehm... Like you know, don't let this bother you! And thanks for the giveaways!
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^^
No insult taken for that!
Thanks for the giveaways!
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I think it was a racial thing or something...but that doesn't really make sense
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Nope. Perhaps somebody skipped classes at Insult School and is paying for it now in later life?
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Yellow, meaning cowardly, is actually an abbreviation of yellow dog, an American insult that first appeared in the nineteenth century to describe a cowardly or worthless person.
In the early twentieth century, when employers were fighting trade unions, they insisted that new employees sign a pledge never to join a union.
This pledge was called a “yellow dog” contract by union members with the implication that anyone signing it was “yellow.”
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I guess thanks are in order for informations you have provided. Yes :P
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Interesting. I don't see how the OP is a "yellow dog" though.
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Interacting with authority [in this case, SG staff, in more general cases management, school staff, or police] is often deemed cowardly by less educated groups (and namely bullies within those groups).
This stands true for such individuals even if the interaction is expected, sensible, and reasonable: Since appealing to authority undermines the ability of the bully to retain their power, they're naturally opposed to it and view anyone that engages in behavior that respects authority (in a manner contradictory to the desires of the bully) as a threat.
Moreover, the core meaning of Yellow Dog actually refers to someone contemptible [though the expectation of meaning is that they're contemptible because they're cowardly (namely, due to submitting to pressure from those in a position of power)], so there's a definitive insult of character being made.
I've personally seen the phrase used (as a reference to cowardice) both in relation to someone who gives in to authority rather than maintain [a strike or similar defiance of business control], as well as in relation to someone abandoning their post (namely, in battle). The first has its origins in unions, the latter, I believe, in civil war era slang.
In more general usage, it can refer to anyone of contemptible nature, and in politics was used in the past to refer to politicians who were corrupt [and in the case of "Yellow Dog Democrats", those who would willingly vote for corrupt members of their party of choice rather than consider voting for another party].
Yellow-belly: from 1842, a Texian term for Mexican soldiers. Origin obscure, but possibly from traditional association of yellow with treachery or the yellow sashes that were part of a soldado’s uniform. Yellow became slang for “cowardly” c. 1856, but yellow-belly didn’t become synonymous with coward until 1924.
Yellow dog: contemptible person. First recorded use 1881, based on earlier meaning “mongrel”
yaller dog. A coward, perhaps redundantly so, as both “yellow” and “dog” are associated with cowardice.
Yaller dogs, porch dogs, or just plain yellow dogs are usually thought to be your basic mongrel, mutt, or cur.
While there are subtle distinctions and regional differences among these, they also may be used interchangeably. “Yaller dog,” having its derivations in the American South, has a rich history and derives from the name given to an aboriginal dog of the Carolinas . Dogs of this breed are also known as Carolina Dogs, Dixie Dingoes, Porch Dogs, Indian's Dogs, and Southern Aboriginal Dogs.reference 1 I. Lehr Brisbin, Jr. of the Savannah River Ecology Lab in Aiken , South Carolina gives the following description: “...it would seem to be just a scrawny, medium-sized mongrel with a reddish-yellow coat, upright ears and a whiplash tail curling up over its back, what rural Southerners have long called a 'yaller' dog.”reference 2 Turns out to be a breed apart with an interesting history revealed by DNA testing and such.
In The South Talkin' Dictionary, the term is defined as an “abusive noun. (1) A cowardly person, (2) In Confederate-era slang, a yaller dog was a staff officer or courier in the Confederate army.”
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So… the guy writing that comment is some Southern hick?
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I see. I kind of figured that "yellow dog" must be synonymous with cowardice or contempt. However, I'm unconvinced that the one who insulted the OP used the term correctly.
If you're calling the OP a "yellow dog", that implies you know why the OP decided to re-roll the giveaway. Did the OP act according to the rules of SG, or did he/she feel that the winner didn't claim their game in a reasonable amount of time? Or both?
It may sound more like philosophy than anything else, but I think if you're going to insult someone, you should at least use the correct insult.
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However, I'm unconvinced that the one who insulted the OP used the term correctly.
I can't argue that the attribution is irrational- but I think the intended sentiment comes across remarkably well: It seems pretty reasonable to interpret it as holding a "You ran to staff rather than confront me directly? You're despicable." meaning.
If you're calling the OP a "yellow dog", that implies you know why the OP decided to re-roll the giveaway. Did the OP act according to the rules of SG, or did he/she feel that the winner didn't claim their game in a reasonable amount of time? Or both?
Keep in mind, if the OP was able to reroll the giveaway for any reason other than [partial content already owned from a package], then that would almost certainly also indicate that the person being rerolled on got suspended as well (at which point staff would have informed them of the reason for their suspension) [also supported by the fact that the OP indicates a one week delay in response- a Non-Activation suspension is 5 days long.]
I'm pretty sure that is the main reason the ex-winner was upset. To them, the fact that the process was in line with site rules and expectations and non-hostile [We can inferr from the fact that the ex-winner was able to even post the comment in question that the OP didn't blacklist the rerolled individual, so the non-hostility is a pretty clear assumption as well] is pretty irrelevant: To them, it no doubt felt like someone going behind their back (or rather, over their head) rather than dealing with them directly.
While their expectations are clearly irrational, their basic sentiment [or rather, the sentiment I'm assuming of them] seems quite reasonable, if their belief is that respectfulness is based in interactions being handled personally prior to calling on authority to resolve a matter.
Of course, the fact that they felt the need to respond with an oblique insult heavily implies that their previous misconduct was due to similar lack of respectability, and that they would have responded poorly even if they had been interacted with prior to involving staff.
At the least, that's overwhelmingly been my own experience with that mentality. :/
In other words, the assumption is what I started my previous comment with: That they're upset that their inappropriate position was undermined, and that they're lashing out because of it.
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You make a compelling argument.
Also, I had no idea that a reroll results in suspension.
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It's the reverse- a suspension results in a reroll.
Or more precisely, the reasons you can reroll are:
- The user is currently suspended
- The user already owns the game
- The user owns more of a package than you feel is appropriate
- The user excessively harassed you during the giveaway or following its end.
- The user (due to circumstances such as delayed bundle-listing) no longer meets the required level to enter the giveaway
In the case of a Non-Activation suspension, staff suspends them and then rerolls your giveaway [because they're suspended]. You can also get a reroll if they've been suspended for Non-Activation within the past month.
As noted, there are reasons other than a Non-Act Suspension that could explain why the OP managed a reroll- but given the OP's phrasing, the timing of the ex-winner's response, the ex-winner being upset and the nature of their insult, and general SG patterns.. it does seem the likeliest scenario. :/
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What I meant to say is, I had no idea that a non-activation reroll results in suspension. Sorry about the confusion.
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If you scroll to the bottom of this page (normally accessed by clicking 'Member' on the top-left of your account page), you can see all the reasons for suspension.
Since you can only get a Non-Activation reroll if they're suspended for the Non-Activation, it's just a continuation of any suspension allowing you to reroll, rather than something specific to Non-Activation suspensions [though they are the only one that offers a one month probation period for continued rerolls].
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If knowledge is power.. and knowing is half the battle..
Then power is half the battle!
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Unless you're Sherlock, in which case it's the entire battle :P
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Wow, it really takes a lot of reading up to understand that insult. Not sure if the insult serves its purpose if barely anyone understands it.
Btw, can we have a poll for who understood the insult without the explanation? That would be fun to see!
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Honestly, I pretty much only ever encountered it through period fiction, certain history references, civil war reenactment, etc.
Even saw a few older video games that used it for those that ran away from a battle to try and suggest an "old-timey" atmosphere.
I know one game even asked you if you WERE a yellow dog when you attempted to close the game, in that weird way some games accuse you of leaving due to cowardice when you try and exit them. :P
I mean, I grew up in the south, and I know at least a few others down there knew the meaning, but it's definitely not something I'd have expected anyone to say with any seriousness behind it.
Still, it does have a rather precise meaning, so if the individual in question was familiar with the word in their everyday usage [for some odd reason :P], then it may have felt appropriate for them.
Or, y'know, perhaps they were relying on the obscurity of the meaning to try and mitigate the harshness of it: That is, get their insult in, but try and avoid any repercussions.
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I need some kind of "Sooth list of Q&A", as I don't recently have time to browse forums thoughtfully, but informations like this are super informative D:
I just thought that "yellow dog" is some kind of police notion. (like bad people here say "dogs" on police here)
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Dog as an insult is typically based in [mongrel- in this case, it's synonymous with cur: inferior or undesirable; despicable or cowardly] or in [Doggedly hounding something: To pursue something fervently and mindlessly.]. In the case of the use of the word to refer to those that mindlessly pursue sex, both meanings apply :P
While it could apply to cops, I'm far more familiar with them being referenced to as pigs [Related to the insult 'swine', meaning 'brutish and contemptible'. Also has the implication of being disgusting, lazy, or wallowing in filth (ie, being corrupt).].
Pig is the only insult I'm aware of with a strong police association [with Swine being the more generalized form of the insult, eg "you english swine"].
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Thinking along the line of "dogs" made me read "were fighting trade unicorns".
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Well that settles it.
The re-rolled winner is a time-traveling, 19th century union boss.
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I imagine that the Yellow Dog is Clifford the Big Red Dog's younger and smaller cousin.
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I will step on thin ice and say: "Don't worry about it too much, try again" ;)
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Yikes. Sorry to hear that this happened to you =/ Thank you for making more GAs regardless of this bad experience!
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I'll re roll and give my bump to someone else
Oh, wait a minute.... darn!
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what's the meaning of yellow dog?..i can't find the giveaway :p.
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He called you a Golden Retriever? ;_;
On a serious note, don't let the stupid in the world bother you too much. There's a lot of it, and you'll be bothered all your life if you let it get to you. ;)
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I think that yellow dogs are beautiful
Just dont let people ruin your fun being mad
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damn, went again thorugh the celebration topic train again and didn't found this, must be blind.
but found the other two you had concerns...the other, to whom you sent the key...I had similiar case, and I did not sent it, sitting on one not sent cause of that
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its not easy to ignore all the stupid comments on the internet all we can do is try!
and of course thank you for the giveaways.
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I guess he thinks you're brave, intelligent, and resourceful: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113028/
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Around a week ago I was able to re-roll a giveaway. And this is what the old winner posted on the giveaway today.
Awesome, just awesome.
Disclaimer: the screenshot has the user's information masked to avoid calling out. However, please do not link or hint the comment or user, even if you may find them out easily.
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