Or at least according to this reddit post. The claim is that devs/publishers need to contact Valve in order to remove the lock from their game, since there's no option to do it themselves. If this is true, we'll probably see less and less non locked games.

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So if I understand right, if a russian trader buys a gift from the store, the trader will be unable to trade that gift with someone who is not from the RU region.

What if the receiving party used a VPN to make it look like he's from the RU region, will the trader be able to gift the game to that person? The gift would be added to the inventory immediately after the trade still using the VPN from the browse.

Do you think more people will start using VPN software? Is it worth the risk?

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Does it work? Yes. Worth the risk? Fuck no.

It's something the SSA explicitly forbids, and you could lose your account for it. Not just restricted, but lose entirely.

It's trivial to detect. I don't think they do this yet, but Steam could automate VPN detection.

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Valve are very clear on their policy regarding VPN usage. Personally I wouldn't jeopardise my account just for the sake of a few dollars. It's digital Russian roulette...

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I wonder if Kalingrad is in RU region. I could be taking drives there...

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you will need VPN also while playing. No way

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inb4 "who is this 4chan" gif

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Pretty old news. This has been happening for about 2 months now.

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Well, if things get too bad.

I went from Piratebay to legit a long time ago, but if they start getting too annoying or expensive, I can always go back.

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1) Wait few months after release
2) Wait till steam sale
3) ???
4) "Profit"

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+1, most of the well-known game that not available here are made/published by KONAMI. Some games that come to mind: PES 2014, PES 2015, MGR, RE 5, Castlevania LOS 2, etc.

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If it comes with regional prices, it should come with regional locks. It's only reasonable.
Automated locks, however, needs more exploration and a public statement, otherwise I'm going to assume someone messed up some comunication.

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Isn't there an exploit that lets you buy ROW copies of region locked games? Valve should also fix that if they want this thing to work.

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That might be fixed, I think?

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I hope it's true, it will make trading much more viable for people outside of 3rd world countries. :) lol

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I'm sure publishers are tired of losing money in their opinion on Russians, Brazilians, etc...trading their games for half price. I'm kind of surprised Valve allowed to to begin with. I can buy COD AW on steam for 60 or get it from someone from another country for 11 keys. lol That's an easy choice.

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That's an easy choice.
Could i pay 11 keys for cod aw ? maybe (probably not cause is a cod game)
Could i pay 60€ for cod aw ? lel nope.

I applied the same concept to a lot of games i have in my library, cause to be honest there are a lot of games that are totally not worth the full price.

e.g. i've just finished tomb raider, not bad, i would buy it for 3-4keys without thinking, but i'm pretty sure that if it was region-locked I wouldn't have taken it.

another example: Goat simulator is in my "next-thing-to-buy" but i'll never pay more for 4€ for that game, cause i think i'll try it, i'll play for 3-5h and then i'll quit.

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I am pretty sure that at least 80% of the customers on Steam don`t have a clue about trading games for TF2 keys.

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They will loose more money then anything,as a lot of people can not afford to buy a lot of games,and trading this way allows them to play more.

I know some people will have an opinion of if you can not afford to buy full price you should not be gaming,the fact is it will only make those buy less and only purchase more at Summer sales and other big sales.

I could care less either way if they restrict all games ot each Region and i am surprised it has not been done by now,but that just means that i will spend less over all so everyone will make less over all.

Is it better to make some money on several games,or make one decent sum on one game??

I buy very few games at full price as i see most of them not worth the asking price,but that does not mean i do not buy non at full price,just most i do not.

I can always fall back to my console as i get rent,borrow to play games that i may pass on the P.C. because price is too high. Call Of Duty games are the worse for pricing imo as even Black Ops is still 49.99 after all these years for making millions by now they should at least be 30

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This will increase piracy. People not going to pay 50-90 euros for a game, but they're not going to stop playing games.

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just move to gog.com...

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I think Russian, Brazilian, Indonesian traders will teach people how use VPN to activate games

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you will need vpn also while playing, good luck

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Most of the games with the new acrossregiontrading lock games don't have the "onlyallowrunin" locks. So no VPN needed for playing

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Are you sure? I thought that every new region locked game is locked also after activating.
Either way, it is not worth of problems

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I noticed some new released games dont have the region lock. Actually quite a few.
The Witcher adventure, Disney Mega Pack, The Old City, Joe Dever's, Wings of Vi. Just a few I checked.

Policy changes or did the devs change it themselves?

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It's up to publishers. Some think they can profit from it, some just don't care...

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You'd need to check when those games were added to steamdb - default region lock starts for products added in around last month.

Or maybe they already ask Valve to unlock it?

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Most of them are games from the "recently released" list. So those devs removed the locks themselves. I hope more of them will do that ;)

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I don't know which AppID number is a start of region locks, it's 3xxxxx. So Joe Dever and Old City would need to request region lock, as they were added to Steam before default locking started (they have 2xxxxx AppIDs).

No idea about rest, through - they might be still pre-default adds, or devs do unlock games...

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Few years back there was no trading and guess what, everything was OK.
People just like to exploit everything and are greedy motherfuckers. It is really so hard to wait few months until sale if I am not willing to spend full price? No, it is not, unless you are...

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Few years back Steam had 1/10th of the users it has now. Or even less. And then they introduced trading and gifting.

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And at least we paid in US dollars, not euros.

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1/10? Lol.
Steam trading was introduced in the end of 2011. Yes, there was less people than now, but it was circa 4milions (online) vs 7 milions now.
And steam has more people mainly because of F2P market and indie bundles, not because of trading.

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100 million users 3 months ago. 25 million of which were created since January 2014. You can imagine how much users did it gain since winter sale 2011, which attracted people to Steam like moths to a flame (and guess by what - by adding trading!).

EDIT: Ok, I've overblown it with 10%, here's a NeoGAF post citing 35 million account. So yeah, Steam has grown only 3 times in the past 3 years :P

Back to original matter - if "everything was ok" without trading, that means you're not into trading. How does this affect you? Looks like - in no way. Then what are you grumbling about?

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Yes, I was buying cheaper games too, but if there will be no trading, I have no problem to buy games like before, for my own currency.
Dont be greedy, look at console players. They have no sales, if they could buy some games for 5€, they would be the happiest people on the planet.
At least you will think before you buy something rather than buy everything and never play it.

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What do console players have to do with anything? And why would I care about their issues? Let's not forget that they DO have a trade system, it's just based on physical copies instead on digital ones.

How exactly am I being greedy?

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Because 75% sale is not enough for you (and many people in this thread), you clearly need also another 50% down on top of that. That's what I call greedy

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And you base that conclusion on...? Me sharing info about a change in the system? Or me replying to your ridiculous remark that "everything was ok before trading"?

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Few years back I was pirating. Now I don't.

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you dumbass do you realize, some people live in fucking poor countries, but games prices are the same like in Norway or Germany, its why they buying them cheaper, better then pirating huh?

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I am not from rich country too, so what? Thats pretty lame excuse if you ask me. If you have hundreds of euros for gaming PC, you also have 5€ on game from time to time. And next time keep those vulgarity for your mother, thank you.

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