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http://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/Gppn4/

The other GA (w/ 5 copies) will start after the GA above ends

haha i forgot the group...no problemo :)

My pleasure! ^-^

I'm confused. I only excluded posting them in this thread earlier, so as to bundle them with the next two (for your convenience), and because I was waiting for the third one to clear from the first set that I posted earlier* (for the same reason).

I followed your instructions to the letter-
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a) it was created after this thread opened
b) this event is mentioned in the description, together with a link to this thread. "

There isn't a single thing in the rules about when they need to be posted to this thread..

*http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/6ffZH/midsummer-madness-updated-gas-2310-gmt2-giveaway-trains-colored/search?page=6#4rVv6pj

If you don't mind and have some free time - please don't hesitate to explain what exactly your concerns are, and why you think it might leave a negative remark. Thank you in advance!

To be honest, my first paragraph—which mentioned my concerns—was left over from my first draft of the post. I hadn't revised it yet, so it still expressed concerns I had which were based on a misunderstanding of the event. I had misinterpreted the rules and description of this event as granting membership to two groups as a reward, one of which was only given to the highest contributors and which catered only to a limited few who earned the most points.

This caused me concern because I was worried that this higher group would encourage users to form exclusive, invite-only giveaway groups which only give away among themselves. Thus, my concern that it would leave a negative mark on the site was based on the misunderstanding that this event promoted exclusive, invite-only giveaway groups. I now understand that the event only provides a single group as an incentive for participation, and the purpose of this group is only to reward participants by granting them access to exclusive giveaways. I apologize for the confusion.

I do admit, however, that these concerns also apply to the first group: Is membership permanent? How many members are allowed in? Is there a cap to ensure better odds, or is membership unlimited? Once this event ends, will the group continue to serve as access to exclusive giveaways? During the next event (if there is one), will the group be disbanded or will members have to leave (or be kicked) and earn their membership again? Or will a new group be created while the original group continues to receive exclusive giveaways? These are all questions I have about the first group. If group membership is permanent and the group remains active as a source of exclusive, private giveaways, it may turn into one of those groups which do not contribute to SteamGifts and only to themselves. This would be due to the behaviors of its members and not of its administrator (you).

There isn't anything wrong per se with an exclusive group that only gives away among its own members. Unfortunately, however, a lot of these groups breed a sense of elitism which undermines the site. Additionally, if the group's members only create giveaways for their groups, but enter into public giveaways, this could be seen a leeching behavior. For these reasons, if you do plan on keeping this group active indefinitely, I would recommend making sure there is active moderation to keep it a healthy community and to promote users to give away both publicly and within the group. We are a giveaway site, after all.

Of course, it's entirely your decision with how to run the group and what to do with it after this event. These are just my opinions and suggestions; you have no obligation to follow them. This is just friendly advice, if anything.

Reducing the points a giveaway gets base on the level restrictions? No thank you. Firstly, that would again require an immense amount of time to do. Secondly, i never announced anything like that and changing the system now is not fair to anyone.

I'm aware of the problems with implementing it now, and I agree that it would be unfair to impose these changes on those who have already participated. It may be that many of those users would not have placed level restrictions on their giveaways had they known of this. My suggestion was more to modify your next event like this, if you have one, or to serve as a suggestion for if someone else hosts one similar to this in the future. I'm sorry, I should have been more clear there.

About next years possible event - im not saying anything about it. Wether i will be active on SG next year isnt allready certain, since 1000 different things might happen so i leave... why should i plan anything this far in advance?

No need. I was just making some suggestions for your next event, if you planned on hosting another. If not, then no problem. Maybe my suggestions will inspire someone else, or help another during their planned event. It's your choice to plan in advance, just as it is with your group.

However! I / we will undoubtly learn from this event and make sure, that any comparable event hold by me / us here will definitly improve.

That's all I wanted to help accomplish. Thanks for the event!

Thanks. Entered some of you giveaways and bumped your post. And good luck to you on winning that giveaway!