With this attitude you will never with. Get to 2500 entries and then just buy a game.
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250 is not "many" entries. The average number of entries was a 300 minimum before winning and that was before the site went public.
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Dizzy Gillespie - Salt Peanuts
...and then, there's this
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why does nobody get elementary probability problems, seriously
Okay, I'll run the numbers for you. For the sake of simplicity, let's assume you entered 250 giveaways, giving away 1 copy, with 1000 entries each.
The probability of winning is 1/1000, so the probability of not winning is 999/1000. Repeat that 250 times, and the chances of you not winning a single giveaway are:
(999/1000)^250
now quit your whining
(Fun fact: Given the above assumptions, your chances of winning anything at all approach 50% around the 700 mark. Of course, now that SG is public, those odds are just going to get worse and worse.)
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The chances of winning a giveaway ever, though, increase if you enter often. Both of you are correct. It's illogical, I know.
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My logic is flawless. Go away.
I'm calculating the odds of an x-long losing streak here. Of course losing a lot of them is less likely than a single loss.
If I enter my 300th giveaway and lose, the events "I lost that one giveaway" and "shit, I lost 300 giveaways in a row" have separate probabilities.
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We aren't talking about the Gambler's Fallacy here. Simply about 'where in the statistical distribution' you fall. You're answering the wrong question. The question is
What is the probability of you not having one a single auction after 250 entries.
The idea being you take a whole bunch of people, have them enter 250 times, then how many of them would have not won anything. If you repeat this with 700 entries, about 50% of them would have one at least one auction during that time. You can look up Bayes Theorem on Wikipedia which outlines how this works. This also outlines a lot of other strange things like how a 99% accurate and specific test can somehow lead to a 50% false positive rate! (Note 'accuracy' means it catches positive results correctly, and 'specific' means it catches negative results correctly, these can actually be quite different depending on the test)
The answer to 'why haven't I won anything yet' is 'because it's statistically normal for you not to have won something'
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I suppose using mean statistics, i can see what you're getting at. However, like Whazze bluntly put, gambler's fallacy, friend. With each entry, the probability is reset.
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"With each entry, the probability is reset."
I don't see how he implied otherwise. His point, I believe, is that statistically the odds of winning are so low that one should consider themselves "lucky" to win anything even after 700 entries, not that the odds start getting better at that point. Thus, this is hardly "fail logic" nor even a case of the gambler's fallacy, though I guess it superficially looks like the latter.
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Like I said, lunboks isn't saying that you should expect your chances of winning to increase with each entry (e.g. "Clearly, this is the time when I'll win my 1000-entry giveaway!). He's saying that, if one were to enter that amount of giveaways, that is the chance of them losing. It's the difference between asking, "The coin was flipped five times and landed on heads, so what is the chance of the next flip being heads?" to "What are the chances that, when a coin is flipped six times, they are all heads?" You are correct, too, however.
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To the next person who makes a thread like this:
I will come to your house, break in through your window, kill you, slice you into small pieces, pack up the pieces into boxes and sell them to the nearest restaurant labeled as "chicken". Then I'll invite your family for a dinner at said restaurant where I'll tell them to "try the chicken, it's awesome."
Not seriously but i'm getting quite pissed at those threads popping up. I have 528 entries and 0 wins, am i making a thread because of it? -_-
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Because this type of thread is posted so very often (about 3 on the front page right now), with varying degrees of whining and entitlement.
It doesn't help that the number is so low. Not winning anything out of 250 giveaways is very likely.
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Ur not the only one like that, in fact, what you said here is so freaking common, but you don't see 15k people whining here, and you don't want to see that, that's why.
As an addendum, there are people with over 700 - 900 entries and 0 won, so you are really not in bad start. Worry and start whining just a bit when you have 600 and no win ;)
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It's a site for free games, you're in no real position to expect anything here.
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Making these threads won't help you winning. Being patient will.
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A whining thread!... yet another one. Stop, please.
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Complaining that you aren't winning something from a free-to-enter giveaway site? Cry me a river.
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And I still have 0 wins are there any groups that give invite around 250 entires`?
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