That's why they 100% recommend you get the 2-step authentication. Password or not, they can't get in. Actually you can't turn off the 2-step with just a password. You need to do it WITH the authenticator or some other method that requires MORE then just a password.\
You can't get ANY access to your account until AFTER you put the authentication code in. So... someone knows you really well or its inside job?
Something else happened here.
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I'm busy during December, but I plan to give away a bunch of stuff in January. Added you for future whitelist GA's.
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maybe they got his credentials and a valid steam guard code and saved the session???
like in ASF (only ask's for steam guard code once)
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To everyone saying mobile "2FA" is the epitome of security:
Mobile phones are trivial to hack compared to PCs, proven by the hundreds of millions of malware downloads from the official app stores.
The phone on itself is purely 1FA, it allows you to do anything on your account without any other kind of authentication.
Mobile phones get stolen/lost all the time, when was the last time you misplaced your gaming PC?
So until Steam fixes the mobile version to be 2FA as well so you need PC to verify, it's a security risk.
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Valve just gave me a middle finger and told me to look at the scam article and said they would "look into it" this is why they score so poorly with the better business bureau
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That's what they always do. Probably was their bot that randomly pastes parts of rules to people until they give up trying to talk to a human.
OTOH: there are probably multiple times the amount of scammers that give items to friend and then claim they were stolen than actual thefts, so that explains partly why they are so non-caring about it. Also it would cost money to offer customer support, but it's cheap to punish users instead with additional "security" hoops they love to jump through.
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Have fun, it will go to a bottom of a huge pile next to even huger piles of complaints is my bet.
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yeah well everytime everyone gets into one of these issues they need to file a complaint valve refuses to do the bare minimum and a bad score on the BBB helps to show that
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Do you really imagine people who want to play games go check some random score on a site they didn't even know about first, then pick Steam anyways because of their near monopoly on PC gaming. That's the sad part, it needs to be much bigger like EU making it illegal to prevent resale of digital games or Belgium trying to get EU to ban loot boxes as illegal gambling. Only then will they get hit where it hurts, their wallet and it will be billions of dollars, not 2 users stopping from buying new games while 20 others appear to take their place and sales go up.
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no not at all but when sites have really low scores on the BBB it can easily erupt into contrivercy especially if said company makes a slip up so say someone has an issues with steam support and some big issues occur leading to coverage then people drag in the bbb and the issue gets worse for said company its happened before for other companies
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Nothing like that has happened to Steam yet, no matter how big problems they've had or how non-responsive their support has been.
I can't even find Steam on their silly site, offers me endless lists of steam cleaning, locomotives etc. Nobody checks the score so nobody cares, meanwhile the only way to actually make a difference is either a huge class-action lawsuit or then at government level. If there was any real alternative to Steam people might bother to compare scores and pick the best one but still waiting for that day.
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F with 90% negative reviews, how low does it have to drop before it actually does something?
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It doesn't matter. Its not even an official accreditation for Valve, basically just a place where consumers who didn't take enough precautions can whine.
I haven't really had any bad experiences with support, even when it comes to refunds past the deadline. And as for jumping through hoops, there's no system that's fully secure, so why complain when you can massively increase the security of your account at minimal hassle? How hard is it to enter a code once when you install steam, or click on your phone a couple of times extra for sending a trade request?
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It's also an US site while soon most Steam users are Chinese. So it really has very little meaning to most even now.
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It is listed as Valve. But if you read you will see a lot of thing that are people giving items to scam sites and then crying that Valve didn't protect them or give the items they gave away willingly back..
Not sure how do you feel about that but to me that is logical. A company is not at fault for you giving away your stuff willingly.
And a lot of people crying about not getting refunds after 2 hours (in my country you have a few days when you buy something after that you can't return it) so for me that is normal to have a time limit..
P.S. First time I heard of this site I will be honest
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If I give something away, it's gone and my fault. Same for everyone else. I'll much rather buy a new game than spend weeks of fighting with the customer service bot.
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Not sure if sarcasm or what XD
But to me what I wrote means that a lot of those negative reviews are not valid (at least in my eyes)..
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Realism after writing several times to support because I couldn't redeem a Portal 2 gift I got from a friend who bought a 4-pack from Steam store.
Their response was that the friend who lived right next door to me and used same student housing LAN with only last IP number being different is obviously a Russian reseller trying to scam me. That is after 3-4 times responding to the bot that pastes you parts of the rules that are totally irrelevant to the problem.
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Wow.. They rly got some "smart" people working there it seems..
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Underpaid people who get given a list of common responses to common problems, just like any customer service.
I never blame the people getting paid pittance to handle all the fools and scammers, always blame the megacorp that refuses to spend even the tiniest part of their multi-billion profits on hiring the required amount of people.
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Since I have a lot of friends who worked for customer service I can say that not all of them are underpaid. But I can say that some people rly don't know anything about the thing they are providing the customer service for.. They just go down a list and that is that..
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I don't, but how is that relevant? Did you mean to imply he roofied my beer and while I was out, sneaked into cheap region store to buy the gift, then pretended to buy a 4-pack again from local store when I came to? :P
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Did you watch him buy the 4-pack from the Steam Store on his account? Considering Steam hasn't offered packs for a couple years now this has to be BEFORE Steam enacted the MORE STRICT region-restrictions that exist now. If you didn't see him and the product was region-restricted then yes, it's 99.9% likely that your friend bought a cheap copy and either doesn't understand how Steam works or just lied to you either implicitly or innocently.
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Yes I did since the whole thing started when we were talking about fun MP games to play when drinking beer, while drinking beer. And obviously this happened when Portal 2 was a new thing. The other 2 copies he gave to other friends worked just fine, just not mine.
Stop making up silly stuff about people you have no idea about, the friend buys tons of games for PC and PS3/4 and has never used any even gray market sites to buy them. Some people work and get paid so they can do that :)
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Making up silly stuff? I made no judgemental claims of anything about anyone merely provided facts on what could happen in reality (not anecdotal stories) -- you getting defensive does imply some form of doubt or falsehood in your statements though.
Anyways, I'm just telling you how things actually work; speaking from the inside. I'd never trust the recollection of a drunk person's drunk memory and if that seems like a valid supply of information to you then I fear for you and wish you the best.
Take care.
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You claimed my friend was a 99.9% likely to be a scammer, can't get sillier than that.
I told you what actually happened in reality and you started saying other stuff, that can be only made up.
Also claiming beer even gets you drunk makes all your comments obsolete.
1) We sit at friend's place and have couple beers
2) We discuss fun MP games and Portal 2 appears on some Steam holiday sale ad
3) Friend buys 4-pack, sends 2 to other friends who get them fine, 1 to me
4) I go home later and try to activate it, getting random error
5) I spend lots of time and several messages to support, who after 5-6 times telling them the same thing activate it on my account
So where from that do you get that my friend is a Russian reseller, I sure don't and neither did Steam support AFTER they finally bothered to check and not just paste rules.
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I'm sorry you don't understand English, but that's not what I stated in the slightest
Try reading again.
Good luck.
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I'm sorry that you don't understand clearly written English and start making ridiculous stuff up instead.
Try reading again yourself and not making stuff up.
And good luck to you too baby.
"it's 99.9% likely that your friend bought a cheap copy and either doesn't understand how Steam works or just lied to you either implicitly or innocently."
"Anyways, I'm just telling you how things actually work; speaking from the inside."
It's 100% likely that you just want to spread lies and not care about the truth in the slightest.
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sigh Psychological projection is a horrible telltale sign of serious problems.
I can only wish you the best of luck with your mental issues and alcoholism.
Considering it's part of my job to know how these things work, pretty sure I'm more qualified on the subject than you but it seems that logic is too difficult for you to understand?
English comprehension lesson: No where in the statement "it's 99.9% likely that your friend bought a cheap copy and either doesn't understand how Steam works or just lied to you either implicitly or innocently" does it say he's a scammer. Then again, I don't expect someone from Finland to understand how English actually works.
Fare well.
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Using such BS excuses to defend your lies clearly marks you as the problem here.
You're the one projecting your own scamming and lying to others, even people you have absolutely no idea about, not me.
What kind of problems do you have when you have some inane need to go on forums and call everyone a liar because you obviously know better what happened in their lives than they? Or you can't admit it when you're clearly wrong spreading your lies?
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Just reinforcing my last comment. :(
Hope you can find yourself some help.
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So you're totally unable to provide any logic or reason for your lies. When that happens, you switch to personal insults. You're still the only one here that needs help of any kind. Please go to kindergarten at least or whatever school they teach Logic 101 at your country.
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I hope one day you come back and read your comments only to realize nothing you'd posted makes any sense.
You have my pity.
It's really amusing though when someone (me) posts something and the replier (you) just uses all the terminology the person before (me) used in order to a) appear as if they comprehend the subject matter and b) self-validate their own mental inadequacies or fallacies in their own mind [aka lying to themselves]. To any critical reader it's obvious when someone has no idea what they're talking about (you).
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I can come back any day and they will make as much sense as they do now, as in full. Nothing you post is based on anything that happened in reality, only your own twisted dreams where you seem to imagine everyone else is a liar and scammer because you are one.
Sorry I have no use for pity, you can keep it all for yourself to get over your mental inadequacies.
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LOL You're really making me laugh now, reusing every non-common word from my last post in your reply.
"Nothing you post is based on anything that happened in reality, only your own twisted dreams where you seem to imagine everyone else is a liar and scammer because you are one."
It's even more hilarious you think I'm a scammer considering all I did was tell you how things actually work in relation to region-restriction, considering I'm a Steamworks developer and you're just another random person of hundreds of millions who plays games.
I could sit here and draw lines for each one of your statements that hold no weight: i.e. You say, "So you're totally unable to provide any logic or reason for your lies." after I've already said, "Considering it's part of my job to know how these things work, pretty sure I'm more qualified on the subject than you but it seems that logic is too difficult for you to understand?" which implies you don't understand logic and then attempt to tell me the same thing. But as you do it in EVERY reply that'd take too many words that you probably wouldn't comprehend -- probably just like this post -- it goes way over head it'd seem and that's very sad to me when something so simple is so hard for someone.
Please, do continue replying though because everyone here on-site loves laughing at stupid posts. :D
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I never said you're a scammer, I just told you how projecting your own feelings works since you don't seem to get it.
If YOU imagine you're a scammer, YOU see everyone else as scammer as well. Got that?
Oh you're a SteamWorks Dev, should we worship you as a god or put you in the same bin as Digital Homies etc?
See how little your silly title means in reality and stop trying to use it to win lost arguments.
Let's make it clear so that even you can understand it since logic clearly isn't strong in you:
1) I say A happened
2) You claim A never happened and instead B or C
3) I tell you nope, just A is possible
4) You claim obviously B or C since you're a SteamWorks Dev so your word is the absolute truth!!!
And yes please continue, I'm having great fun on your expense as is everyone else here that can actually use their brain for thinking. But at least try to use logical arguments instead of made up BS you came up with on the fly.
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I never said you're a scammer.
You literally can't read what you type? Or do you just not know how to put your thoughts into the right words and then think the words mean what you thought?
Nothing you post is based on anything that happened in reality, only your own twisted dreams where you seem to imagine everyone else is a liar and scammer because you are one.
So that's not you calling me a liar and a scammer? Particularly the part that says "you seem to imagine everyone else is a liar and scammer because you are one".
No more wasting time with double-digit IQ over here. It's like talking to a brick wall LOL
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Since you obviously can't read worth shit, reread again the part "in your twisted dreams" or "you seem to imagine".
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Thanks for linking to things that I first mentioned and that you had to google to understand. We'll wait for you to catch up.
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Thanks for ignoring your illiteracy while claiming it's me who can't understand English. Why do you always ignore the relevant parts that show how wrong you are and then move around to attack something else?
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LOL What a joke, I don't know if I could live with myself if I was as pathetic as you. You're describing what you're doing. That's what psychological projection is you dummy.
You admitted you were illiterate already, forget that? https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/2cis8iq
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Yes, apparently you need to be thrice as pathetic as me to be able to live with yourself. Try to make one sentence that explains stuff with logic, not your retarded emotions and feelings about stuff you have absolutely no idea about.
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I don't need to try, I already did it, and two other users came in and said my logic was valid and you were wrong.
You can't seem to accept that.
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I will accept it the moment when the comment is like this:
"Your logic is wrong because of this and that"
All I see from you are personal insults that are purely based on your own imagination and projections, nothing more.
When you become an adult, you will realize that to win an argument you need more than insults and claiming you're right without any proof.
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Already did that kiddo. :)
Not my problem if you ignore it; hence ignorant.
Other users even linked you the logical outline and you just keep thumbing your asshole.
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Except you never did outside your own imagination. You only made claims that are pure lies about people and happenings you clearly have no idea about. Why is it so hard to answer this with the actual logical fallacy that you're talking about instead of just claiming it's there because a SteamWorks Dev said so...
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There's more but this is the most true https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/CE8jiBI
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And that's what you base your BS on? How is it illogical to cure boredom and spending the time that needs to be waited in any case by doing something that provides amusement for you?
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Sigh....
Psychological projection = projecting your own qualities to others, which is what you're doing.
What I am doing = projecting your projected qualities back to you, they were never mine to begin with.
Stop flinging shit already if you don't want it all back, simple as that. Should be simple enough for even you to understand.
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Psychological projection = projecting your own qualities to others, which is what you're doing.
What I am doing = projecting your projected qualities back to you, they were never mine to begin with.
ROFL
The only person flinging shit here is you troll. Other users already told you, you're the one in the wrong and you're the one looking bad from this -- pretty common outcome for trolls like yourself.
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Nope, read again., it's you doing it and me responding in kind.
I have told you couple times already that we could have a civilized discussion about the topic if you just stopped doing that. But nope, every time I ask for logic I get "LOL YOU AUTISM!!11" "you jack off to ponies!!!" etc. So stop doing that and talk like a civilized human being, that's all I ask.
Would it be possible? Are you able to answer this with just showing me where my logic was actually wrong? Or will it be more of the same?
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Dude this is so funny, please keep it up we're still laughing at your expense. You're like that 12 year old kid just parroting everything as if it's your first time trolling someone. XD
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So no, you're totally unable to act or talk like a civilized human being, thanks for answering that for me.
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No it's you who looks like the weak troll, always avoiding questions that would prove you wrong and instead coming up with more and more personal insults based on your own imagination.
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"Hello, I had a blue screen of death."
"No way, man. We are the overlords of the universe, infallible, attractive and superior in every way to you common folks who clearly have some mental problem as is obvious since you pay us money for our products, which nevertheless are perfect tho in every imaginable way (that is in the way of having received money for it)."
Cool story. :P
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Since they told you to look at the scam article what exactly did you send them? O.o
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screenshots proving what happened along with a written description of it so either the asshole didnt read or its a bot
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Oh then it is an automated answer. Most likely you will get a real answer later.
Don't know if you ever send support ticket to HB, Indiegala and such sites. THey do the same. Automated answer for you category and then after some time a real human answer.
P.S. may take a while since it is the holiday season..
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then they need to quit saying the bot is "steve" and call it what it is
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Yeah I agree, but just w8 a bit. I got my ticket from HB closed b4 a real person answered :/
It is strange what they do with support these days..
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Sure they do. Its your account and its your fault. -.-
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Stolen files from PC(login cache files, sessions etc)?
They copy it to any browser files, go onto your account, they can do anything cause system thinks like ur logged in.
Buying lot of games as a gift
Well done
PS. Where are your screenshots of trades/send gifts? You told us u will put them here...
Smeels like a troll or someone got scammed by popular way and came here just to...you know...blame volvo for everything :D?
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"if steam support says it it must be true" come on man we all know there trash at this point
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Dude most of us here are asking questions so we understand the hole thing for 2 reasons so we know what happened and how to stop it from happening to others.. Don't be so defensive.. He just asked for the stuff you told you will put here..
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First of all you will need to remove any sensitive data from pics. Just to be sure you don't give your personal data or the hackers since it is against ToS. Next you will need to upload it to some image posting site and give links here. If you are not sure how to link images here is formatting help SteamGifts formatting
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heres one https://imgur.com/a/Ko6ZG
heres the market place one https://imgur.com/Bw00Sp6
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still i didnt see any trades...is it still in your equipment or the 'hacker' trade it to someone?
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that would be a nightmare for me because i feel like im pretty secure. passwords different for every site. 2 step verification on my email, authenticater for steam. i would be pretty damn surprised
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Why are people bumping this thread?
Mods should professionally close or rename this CAPS LOCK thread title since it's clickbait and inaccurate.
The OP has horrible SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) and had his account rekt, that doesn't mean there's any form of Steam vulnerability as the title suggests and is causing constant views/replies.
If you read the OP's replies to other users you can tell he has no technical knowledge and seems to be a teenager.
EDIT: P.S. The OP is also apparently a liar because you [or a thief] can't turn off Mobile Auth and then send your items away as he describes -- there is a 7-day hold placed on the account before you can make trade offers after enabling or disabling Mobile Auth. As well in order to confirm trades with Mobile Auth off and 7-day hold expired they'd need access to the e-mail account to confirm trades via SteamGuard -- as well they'd never even be able to sign on the account without direct access to the e-mail account after disabling Mobile Auth.
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after reading some parts of this thread.... I kinda agree this this ^ Stole cards, but left all tradable\sellable items from cs:go or TF2? Stole 21$ but no trace of any bought\traded\sold items? You can't just transfer money to someone from steam wallet, you know. Plus as was said - to trade items you need to confirm the exchange via mobile auth, and to trade them without this procedure you need to disable it, which will lead to trade hold. soooo....
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Yeah I believed him at first but now I'm skeptical, usually with these kinds of situations hackers go for tradable items from MP games first, not trading cards or wallet. And after reading through the discussion I still don't see how you can do something like that without access to the phone but he kept denying it and blame Steam Auth entirely instead. I don't trust Valve 100% either but if something like this is possible shouldn't we hear more about it? Anyway if it's true my condolescences to OP but I'll remain skeptical.
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i had no idea they stole items till someone told me to check trades they did in fact take quite a lot i just didnt know it i didnt think items were tradeable at all without gaurd but they managed it or got gaurd and then turned it off or something i think it has to do with intel security management
I honestly didnt noticehalf my tf2 items gone but i did notice all trading cards gone
theres a trade list screenshots
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You're a liar. You can't trade items immediately after disabling Mobile Auth as you claim. Better next scamming next time buddy!
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Just ignore this guy, he's the one who has proven to be full of BS and attacking others for no reason.
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LOL Pathetic. I feel so sorry for you that you feel the need to go around and reply to my posts like it helps you in your fruitless argument against me -- such a pointless existence.
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You're still the pathetic one here, your only reason to be seems to be attacking others on forums based on lies and personal attacks. That's the only thing you ever do so please get help.
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Please keep parroting every word I say, it's truly fucking hilarious. Let's try some random words to see if you just put them in your post: coagulated coxcomb.
If you go read the post order, you'll see you were the first to insult me after I told you not to always listen to your friends. Nice try tho. I don't have a need to throw rocks at retards, but I also don't mind it either if the retard keeps replying. <3
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I give your BS back to you, should I start using different words for it to make you feel better? Stop lying and attacking people and I'll stop giving it all back to you as it is, since nobody asked for or wants it.
https://puu.sh/yK8p1/4fb48e98c2.png for all to see where the first insults start flying.
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are you sure the email was legitimate and you didn't click a link in it that took you to a fake login page
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He's a liar. I just updated my post above with some clarification.
I'd presume his goal is trying to get free gifts from people that feel sorry for him since it's holiday season.
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sorry about that here ya go i was trying to figure out how to send images on here i didnt have an account for anything that does that long story short got an imgur account
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You don't need an account to post stuff to imgur FYI
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if it helps u feel better i also got scammed and lost 30$ for winter sale :<
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Dont know what you are talking about... Deactivating the two way authentificator result in a 2 weeks trade ban.
Tell us the true story not this fake one.
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I find it hard to believe that someone would go to the effort of cracking two step verification for ~20$. More likely some sort of glitch in your account (which you'll have to bring up with Steam support), or you logged in at some public space and someone managed to get access. Or you just use the same password for everything and got screwed over that way.
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Even someone is trying to use the name + password, you must confirm it with your phone. I know that because someone is trying to log in to my account since weeks two times a day ^^
But yes you are true, Why to hack a $20 account -.-
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i have been looking for any flaws in what i have done and all i can come up with is either a dig has been breached or b intel security manager has left my pc vaunrable and i cant find any way to delete it
also it was likley over 100 dollars with the items they stole 20 was wallet credit alone
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Intel Security Manager? No such thing, other than the job position at Intel.
Pretty sure you're attempting to relate the recent flaws in IMEI, the Intel Management Engine not Intel Security Manager lol, to your scam?
Now it's super obvious you're a troll/scammer.
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Ok, that's just ridiculous. Please learn how to use a PC before you start making unbelievable claims of being hacked, and spreading poor advice on computer security.
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Screenshots for those that didnt see it https://imgur.com/Bw00Sp6 https://imgur.com/Azsc8T1
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Funny how everyone was so active shouting for those and saying it's all made up, now that we have them everyone went quiet. :)
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Considering they prove nothing, there's nothing to say. LOL
You can't trade items the same day you disable Mobile Auth and that's what this guy is claiming happened. Then again, you're not the brightest star in the sky so who'd expect you to understand the nuances of Steam as you already proved you don't even know how region-restriction works.
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LOL, dear little kid, I've been trading stuff on Steam longer than you've been out of your diapers. (Just trying to emulate your way of communicating since I got tired of trying to reason with you)
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You realize I'm the owner the Years of Service groups, have been part of Steamworks since before you created your Steam account, and am part of the "Adult" groups that require members to be over 30 years old?
Keep posting please, having a good ol' laugh! <3
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Oh over 30 years old, so you're already a big kid, baby. I wish I was 30yo so I had such energy and vitality.
You're the retard who thinks region restriction means that every apartment in the same house in the same country is apparently their own region.
You're the retard who thinks couple beers makes you pass out and go buy games from other regions while at it.
You're the retard who thinks you know it all and nobody who actually was involved can know any better.
Care to prove yourself right by actually using logic to defend any of those retarded claims of yours? Or just continue making yourself look like the fool you are? Can you use logic at all?
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You ask me to use logic, amusingly after I brought up the fact that your logic was flawed.
It's obvious to anyone that finished even junior high that you don't know what the word means, since logic is technically a constant that is either valid or invalid -- not something that you can use as if there was an absence of it. As such I'd doubt you even understand the concept of reason either.
Your lack of English comprehension also seems to make you put words in other peoples mouth, because you can't understand what was even being communicated, which makes you look incredibly daft.
You're the retard who thinks region restriction means that every apartment in the same house in the same country is apparently their own region.
You're the retard who thinks couple beers makes you pass out and go buy games from other regions while at it.
You're the retard who thinks you know it all and nobody who actually was involved can know any better.
All you have to do is read the posts and you can see I never said those things -- not even close unless you misconstrue it due to your lack of English vocabulary. But the fact you think I did shows where your mind is and the likeliness of your dishonesty.
I'm at 50/50 right now, 50% you're funny 50% sad for you.
Sorry, I can't fix how stupid you are.
Unfortunately for you I don't think anyone can.
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My logic is based on actual reality. What is your anecdotal BS based on? Answer this question at least.
Why is it that you avoid all questions about logical reasoning by saying others are little kids or have mental problems when you're the one that can't come up with anything to defend your BS?
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You telling a story about your friend is anecdotal.
I'm not telling a story, hence nothing I've said was anecdotal.
Your English comprehension is cringe. :\
And you realize, I'm not avoiding your questions? I've answered them but seems you lack the ability to understand the answers and just keep repeating yourself.
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Me telling about actual things that actually happened to me and the friend while I was actually there is a pure fact.
So is him buying the 4-pack from local Steam store as proven by it working for him and 2 other friends, also me after a long exchange about it with support. Since you're a STEAMGOD, go ask your friends to verify this if you want.
So is being in the same region and not having any restrictions for gifting when you live 10m away from each other.
Then you come in spouting all sorts of BS based on nothing else than your own imagination, implying that others have mental problems and alcoholism, they are cheaters, liars and scammers etc. And you think anyone takes you seriously?
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Me telling about actual things that actually happened to me and the friend while I was actually there is a pure fact.
No you dummy, that's called ANECDOTAL. Read a dictionary.
an·ec·do·tal
ˌanəkˈdōdl
adjective
(of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.
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You do that please.
"Anecdotal evidence is an informal account of evidence in the form of an anecdote. The term is often used in contrast to scientific evidence, as evidence that cannot be investigated using the scientific method. "
Yet everything I claimed can be verified with the scientific method of just checking Steam logs for purchases, gifts and support tickets involving this.
What scientific method can you use to back up your claims about other people you still don't know anything about?
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LMFAO OMG This is hilarious!
How about the science of programmatic methods and SQL db queries? Which is likely what Valve used and saw you were without any merit. Remember, they didn't help you.
Your claims are anecdotes, unless you can provide those logs which Steam doesn't even say exist considering they never helped you.
Think about it, if you can think beyond your drunk stupor: 4 products were generated from the same algo, let alone the same pack, and you claim 1 was magically restricted to RU/CIS when the region-restrictions didn't even exist like that when Portal 2 was released. Again, that's why Steam didn't help you: because your claim was false.
/facepalm
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I claim Steam had a glitch, you claim it's impossible. I think this sums up how useless and stupid you are since they have nothing but random glitches all the time. If you had actually ever used Steam you would know this.
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If you had actually ever used Steam you would know this.
wat is Steam?
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It is anecdotal, as in it's a personal experience as narrated by someone. However, it can also be true, and therefore factual. You are forcing the distinction between the two, implying you to believe his personal experience is made up, and therefore a lie. Your claim of "99.9% lying friend" isn't a fact or even anecdotal, its just a random number you pulled out. So basically you called him and his friend liars, not surprised he would get annoyed at the "silly stuff". Ad-libbing a bit here.
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Don't worry, everyone reading this can see you're literally increasingly emulating my post style or the contextual wording with every single reply of yours. Honestly, it's actually psychologically intriguing, but ultimately sad.
When you lack substance, such as a brony (a true group of mentally deficients) like yourself, it only makes sense to copy others.
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More and more personal insults since that's the only thing you can do. No logic or reason to be found.
https://puu.sh/yK8p1/4fb48e98c2.png
Let's reread again and see who starts insulting who shall we?
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ROFL I mentioned your lack of reason and then the next reply you include that word in it.
Game, set, match. EOS
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Like I said, I'm just giving your BS back to you as it is, since nobody asked for or wants it. Get that?
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You can lie to yourself however you want if it makes you sleep better at night but we all know the truth.
And we're fucking laughing at you. :D
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Stop calling yourself we, it makes you look even more silly.
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So the two people sitting next to me aren't people?
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I would assume by now that nope, they are your imagination. Since your seem to imagine a lot of things that clearly aren't there.
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So the two colleagues part of our studio sitting next to me aren't real, but the cartoons you jack off to are?
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Care to provide proof of that? Your studio apartment is empty and you're the only one there, ever.
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Studio =/= Studio Apartment
Good job failing at English some more.
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https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/studio #3
I'm still just making fun of you alleged AAA game studio because you're too afraid to even mention what games you're making.
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You think 3 people is a AAA game studio? Keep it up, making yourself look more and more dumb with every word. :D
P.S. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/asset #1
I wish I could post wavs of me laughing at you right now.
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I don't, but you seem to imply you're super important and always right because you're part of some neverheard company that only makes money on Steam market it seems.
Stop trying to use that to win lost arguments already and I'll stop making fun of it.
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You love putting words in peoples mouths huh? Must be your only defense to living a pointless existence.
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Stop saying the words if I you don't want them in your mouth. And reread all the posts where only proof of your superiority is you being a SteamWorks Dev.
No logic or reason from you yet so I'll have to leave you for now, this is getting boring even. If you come up with any logical argument that doesn't include attacking me based on your lies and assumptions, please do so meanwhile and we could finally have an actual discussion. Otherwise have a good day.
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Yes, I agree you've become boring, this much is true. You started with slight amusement but had no substance behind your troll.
You can keep making up things and think I said them (whether you truly believe your lies, no one cares), and repeat over and over vocabulary terms I've said that you had to google to understand; still all laughing at you and having a merry holiday season. :D
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https://puu.sh/yK8p1/4fb48e98c2.png
Let's reread again and see who starts insulting who shall we?
Why are you unable to answer this with anything but more insults?
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I don't consider it an insult to mention your self-admitted issues, such as being mentally disturbed via bronyism (or jacking off to cartoons) or being an alcoholic. Those are your problems that you advertise on your profile and in your posts for everyone to see. If you consider it an issue to be called out on what you're advertising, I can only recommend such as I've done earlier: that you get professional medical help.
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There you go still just spouting personal insults and assuming this and that with no logic.
Please provide scientific evidence of me jacking off to cartoons or ponies?
Please provide scientific evidence of me being an alcoholic?
You're still the one full of BS, taking random stuff and then adding your own assumptions and projections on top and then shouting to everyone that's the new and only truth.
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How exactly do those prove anything at all? Anywhere except your own imagination where you assume every lie you make becomes truth?
Please provide scientific evidence of me jacking off to cartoons or ponies?
Please provide scientific evidence of me being an alcoholic?
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So you have nothing to back up your lies except meme pictures, sounds about right for someone with your logical skills.
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Says the Satan worshipping nazi weed dealer, clear proofs on your profile: https://puu.sh/yKeHy/b544ff2ff2.png
And you expect anyone you seriously after your own "science" proved you as such?
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Ok seems like I broke it now, it got stuck on meme pictures thinking this is Imgur or something. I don't need any more of those since they aren't even that good, so until you come up with any logical arguments, have fun. I'll rather waste more time by watching some TV.
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I don't believe either of you are accomplishing anything by continuing this.
Perhaps you should both consider taking a step back and chilling out a bit before continuing.
Just saying. Some other dude's account getting rekt isn't worth all this, regardless of what happened.
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I never had any illusions of accomplishing anything other than wasting some time.
I'm always calm and logical so no amount of time would make that any different. :)
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You just said, "I never had any illusions of accomplishing anything other than wasting some time."
Wasting time, or wasting anything, is not logical.
Therefore you're not logical.
That conclusion is called perfect logic.
P.S. Seems all you do is waste peoples time.
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Time goes by at the same rate no matter if you do something or not.
Wasting time is what it's usually called when you do something, often fun, with the time that's not productive. Might as well use the time for something while waiting for morning, since I woke up at very early hours. There you go, now you can have one actually valid thing to call me: insomniac.
[1261-ROAN-1533] [aeca5aa6] there's a scientific Steam support ticket number for you for this case from 2013.
Now what happened to 90% of your posts, got too ashamed by them?
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Seems Steam denied your support request and noted it was a fraudulent claim.
Hmm... That mean I'm right and you're wrong. Seems par for the course here.
?
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Ummm, what? Now you're even making stuff about that up....
"Hello,
A staff member has replied to your question:
Hello,
I apologize for the previous message, it was sent in error.
Please exit Steam, restart your computer, and log back into your account. This should resolve the issue.
Let us know if you have any other questions."
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Yes, that's a common auto-generated Steam message, and?
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I agree, he was a waste of time and keystrokes and now I move on to more important things. <3
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Well, I don't know both of you, so I'm unbiased, but from reading your conversation I would say it's you lack logic and reasoning, not him. Sorry about that.
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Care to point out where exactly? That would be actual progress instead of his silly insults when I ask for any logic.
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Literally everywhere. For example, on this screenshot you provide anecdotal evidence, and when foe said this is unlikely, you called him silly. That does not look good, not at all. Also, it seems like you follow his every comment to try to attack him, even when it's not connected to you.
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Exactly this. I never even said it was the ultimate truth, hence I gave a few possibilities and said 99.9%.
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What you posted was still absolute BS and only attacking the persons of other people claiming you know better than they and Steam what actually happened.
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"Hello,
A staff member has replied to your question:
Hello,
I apologize for the previous message, it was sent in error.
Please exit Steam, restart your computer, and log back into your account. This should resolve the issue.
Let us know if you have any other questions."
Let's ask Steam support then who agreed with me 4 years ago.
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Like I said, the scientific evidence can be found on Steam's side.
Found the emails to support about it tho so anyone can go verify ticket [1261-ROAN-1533] [aeca5aa6] if they want.
So me, friend and Steam all agree that it went that way, while foe claims it happened some other way 99.99% likely.
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You realize, since Steam didn't give you the game, that it DIDN'T go the way you say?
Or do you lack the ability to realize that?
Honestly?
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Except Steam gave me the game, why are you lying about it?
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Their response was that the friend who lived right next door to me and used same student housing LAN with only last IP number being different is obviously a Russian reseller trying to scam me. That is after 3-4 times responding to the bot that pastes you parts of the rules that are totally irrelevant to the problem.
Hmm?
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Yes? And after that when I complained more they said the message you quoted as in error and fixed the problem. What is so hard to get about this?
https://puu.sh/yKalu/291d6666bd.png 9/13/12
https://puu.sh/yKaiY/9e1d808d89.png 1/13/13
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If it was actually a replacement and Steam was in error it would be a replacement license that says "Retail". Since it wasn't a retail replacement and simply a complimentary license addition, it'd seem like 4 months of complaining to the Steam Support Staff in 2012/2013 which amounted to less than a dozen people that actively processed tickets at the time, proves nothing other than complaining for long enough can reward you with what you want.
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So now you know better than Steam support who gave me the game finally after the long process. It was added to my account by support staff because the gift was bugged like I said and they confirmed it.
I don't think anyone needs more proof of how full of shit you are.
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Must suck being alone, as no one has come to support your claims but multiple other users have validated mine.
Hmm...I still wonder if you can stop and think for more than a few seconds before instinctively mashing at the KB/M and making yourself look stupid af. Think about it, if you can.
Ciao!
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So please bring all these imaginary users here that can validate your claims that are clearly proven false by Steam support.
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I'm out of this. I just wanted to inform you, that it's you who look bad in this situation. Explaining to you why is too much hassle, sorry.
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I look bad for speaking the truth and others look good for making up stuff and attacking others? Explaining that would be really interesting.
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You're just trolling at this point and everyone can see it. smh
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You're still looking at a mirror and saying it looks stupid, nothing more.
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Maybe because a picture of you or someone like Donald Trump is taped onto the front of the mirror or something.
Probably you, because of a lack of substance. At least Trump produces OC with his retorts instead of parroting the person he's attempting to deride.
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So you have a picture of Donald on all your mirrors, that explains a lot. You're the one attacking others here, I'm still merely giving the same back to you and you don't seem to like it. So stop trying before you hurt yourself with all your stupidity I fling back.
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Me too, someone being proud of being an asset flipper shovelwaver and using that as proof of being right about everything is so hilarious.
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Your instinct to think I'm an asset flipper just goes to show your lack of reverence for the people that make the games you play.
The same way a thief thinks someone will steal something from him when the other person would never even think of it.
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"I make money from the Steam marketplace every day without even doing anything (I doubt you understand but my game assets get bought/sold). Pathetic pathetic pathetic."
You're the one who said you make your money flipping assets, not me.
What game did you make that I played? If it's any good I might revere you a small bit just to make you happy.
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Awesome! More proof you have no idea what you're talking about -- straight from your own words! :D
Let me explain some basics to you:
Steam Marketplace =/= Steam Store
Steam Marketplace is where in-game items are bought/sold by Steam users like trading cards, emotes, backgrounds, CSGO skins, etc.
Steam Store is where you buy games from Valve.
An asset is just a useful object. You can call a person that helps you do something an asset. You can call a hammer an asset. I was referring to items in the Steam Marketplace, as I said and you so retardedly misunderstood, that sell every day all day and provide percentage cuts to me and Valve. The fact the term asset is so tiny in scope to you that it makes you think all usages of the word asset is related to asset flipping is just vapidly depressing.
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Except nobody calls crap on Steam Market assets except you, this is what game asset means to everyone else:
https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/articles/how-to-fund-your-games-by-creating-and-selling-game-assets--cms-24380
https://www.vg247.com/2017/09/27/steam-removes-over-170-fake-games-from-known-asset-flipper/
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You mean, you're an ignorant user and that's what Valve (and Steamworks partners like myself and all other devs) calls them?
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/assets
Yup yup.
L O L
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Yeah right. "Me and my secret club use words that nobody else does making us superior". Yet you claim my English skills are weak.
This is still what the rest of the world calls game assets:
http://crappy-games.wikia.com/wiki/Asset_Flipping
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No, it's not. Unless you consider 17,000 people to be a secret club. https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks
However it is what plebeian randoms like yourself think it is because of lacking technical knowledge on the subject.
Literally I showed you what Valve/Steam calls them, and you link to some random wikia. Done with this now, you're a fucking worthless human being -- real talk.
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What 17k people call something is still totally irrelevant to how the word is used in common English for the 7bil+ people that aren't in that club. Clear sign of your superiority right? It has nothing at all to do with technical knowledge and all to to with linguistics.
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Wow, 7 billion sure is close to "Approximately 330 to 360 million people speak English as their first language."
Considering those 17,000 people are the ones that make the games you play and can call the objects in their games whatever they want and their word is God in relation to some random person like yourself calling it something else that doesn't even know what those objects are (technically, as in lack of technical knowledge, like yourself). I could provide examples (such as Kleenex/Tissue, Xerox/Photocopy) but you'd just dismiss them and continue to act like the worthless peon that you are. :)
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Except people who don't understand what the term means use Google to find sites like:
https://www.gamedevmarket.net/
https://itch.io/game-assets/free
https://graphicriver.net/category/game-assets
https://www.scirra.com/store
And so on and on and on. Now if someone tells them that they are making money selling/buying assets for games, what do you imagine they would think of first? Steam cards?
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I feel this way with every reply he makes -- like explaining something in sign language to a blind person. The struggle is real.
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You would be heard better if you actually said something worthwhile, not just spread lies and personal attacks.
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Huh? When did I complain about being heard? Was referring to the LITERAL INABILITY of you to comprehend things I've said, not your PERSONAL IDEA of this situation.
For example, it's like helping someone mentally challenged learn to read or something: incredibly challenging and frustrating but the MO comes from a good place.
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I state facts and can even prove them. You state alternative truth BS attacking me claiming I'm lying. And you wonder why you are hard to get?
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You sound like a modern Republican or a Flat-Earther or any other type of person that thinks their thoughts are facts instead of understanding facts are only things that can be reproduced without fail.
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I sound like a Republic? Thanks I guess.
I already produced enough facts for you about how things actually are confirming what I said.
You haven't yet produced anything except personal insults that I keep flinging back to you.
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Thank you for attempting to attack my typo of forgetting to type the suffix of a word and prove to us all your lack of basis.
https://www.quora.com/In-online-debating-is-attacking-ones-spelling-evidence-of-defeat
In online debating, is attacking one's spelling evidence of "defeat"?
Answered 152w ago · Author has 201 answers and 2.6m answer views
Yes. If you feel the need to rely on semantics and spellings, it surely signifies your lack of reasoning into the argument.On top of that, you would be like nails on a chalkboard, annoying, irrelevant and probably even cheeky. Analogous to what they say, in a conversation, do not raise your voice, improve your argument, in an online debate do not be someone's spell-checker, improve your reasoning.
I'm not wasting my time re-explaining what can be learned from just reading what was already typed with at least a basic understanding of English.
You failed at that much so no doubt you'd fail again and just keep wasting everyone's time which you already admitted is your only goal here.
You can't even discern the difference between a fact and an anecdote -- what hope would there be in you understand any complex concept?
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I didn't attack it at all, just pointed out how the typo made it sound totally opposite which was funny.
So now that you've read some guidelines for debating, could you finally explain how and why my logic was bad instead of throwing more and more insults that tell more about your than anything else.
My goal is still wasting time online until morning happens and I can go grocery shopping. But that's not really related to the logic of things is it? That's why I'm here arguing with you, not why I say the things I say.
I already provided you proof of the facts confirming my story to be true. You haven't provided anything except your own misguided opinions.
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Cool, you lack the spine to stand up for your own actions and lack the brainpower to construct cohesive debate or even worthwhile content.
All you've done is parrot my words as others have pointed out, a classic and unskilled trolling tactic employed by teenagers like yourself 'round the world, and it's only entertaining for so long. Since you're just repeating yourself like a broken record with nothing interesting to say or valid arguments to make; I bid you adieu.
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Where did I not stand up for my own actions, please specify?
I already told you several times that since you are unable to provide any kind of actual logical arguments, I'll just keep flinging your BS back to you.
So for the final time: can you please start talking in a calm and logical way and show me some actual logical error instead of just making vague claims and obvious lies?
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It's so sad, I hope you don't have any kids or any people that rely on you because it'd be unfair to them.
Honestly, it seems like you have some symptoms of autism, like repeating certain words over and over especially after someone else has already said them (it's called "echolalia" and "scripting"), as well Asperger's lack of cordiality and if you're not diagnosed on the spectrum you should see a specialist. I say this as a part-time certified IHSS worker (taking care someone with severe autism for several years).
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Ever consider it might be because English isn't my first language and my vocabulary might not be as broad as other people's? But what's a troll like you to do but use that as yet another personal attack.
Or the fact that I told you over an hour ago already that I'm doing it fully on purpose since you don't seem to get anything else, so maybe that might get through. Stop saying BS and I stop repeating same BS back to you, problem solved.
What kind of autism do you have then when you can't answer any of my questions like:
"can you please start talking in a calm and logical way and show me some actual logical error instead of just making vague claims and obvious lies?"
Why is it so hard to answer that and actually discuss about something?
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Are you so out-of-it that you can't comprehend I was advising you that YOU might HAVE AUTISM?
ROFL
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I can understand your weak personal attacks much better than you obviously, I just ignore or mirror them.
I ask for calm and logical discussion and that's your response, that is a clear sign of autism if anything.
Grocery store is opening so I'll go hunt for breakfast before continuing to toy with you, unless you can actually think of a logical argument first time in your life.
Leaving this here because you seem to delete a lot of your messages to make yourself look better: https://puu.sh/yKcB3/36d977cc56.png
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I'm just tired of trying to teach a retard (you) how to not be retarded. It's exhausting, especially when the retard (you) is trying as hard as he can to be retarded.
Go ahead and run away, and keep making false claims -- there's not a single message of mine deleted in this thread.
No one gives a fuck what you say anyway. :D
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No problem, everyone can have their own opinion. I just wish people who claim to understand even basic logic could use it when asked and not hide their lies behind personal attacks. But every and each time I ask for logical reasoning, I get more and more insults. If the response would be to show me the error of my logic, that would make me happy, but alas it never is.
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Textual regurgitation at it's worst. Myself as well as others have already pointed out numerous flaws in your attempt at logic. Your blatant disregard of these outlined flaws is why everyone is laughing at you like the retarded jester in a King's court getting pebbled with rotten fruit/vegetables (about to be killed and replaced with the next worthless fellow).
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No you haven't pointed out anything other than how you're always right because you're an asset flipper.
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You're a liar. You can't trade items immediately after disabling Mobile Auth as you claim. Better next scamming next time buddy!
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/91Uthyb
Also there are barely any cards in those screenshots which you said was what was stolen. Almost all TF2 and CSGO items which you first said weren't stolen but now claim they were.
Just quit while you're ahead kid.
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A cursory glance at the list I recognised a number of TF2 items in the trade images which are Not Tradable or Marketable. Also the items that the wallet was spent on are in his inventory
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Yes. I also noticed all the purchased items were in his inventory which only adds to the evidence this is all a sham.
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If you had actually used Steam you would know that bought items from the market are not tradeable for a week.
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What does that have to do with anything? Nothing. For him to trade anything with Mobile Auth off 7 days would've already had to pass. Man it's straight mind-boggling how people stupid as you are able to survive in this world.
Here let me get ya, "If you had actually used Steam you would know that everything OP's saying is bullshit." or better yet, "If you actually read SG forums time to time you'd see this isn't the first time this kid has tried to get people to turn off their SteamGuard or Mobile Auth."
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I never claimed anything about the OP, just told you how Steam market and item trading work since you obviously didn't know.
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Incredibly sub-par troll, considering I make money from the Steam marketplace every day without even doing anything (I doubt you understand but my game assets get bought/sold). Pathetic pathetic pathetic.
:)
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Yes you already told us you're so proud to be a Digital Homie, we got it.
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you sound like a self absorbed know it all your very hostile and just plain rude https://imgur.com/cBpDvUE https://imgur.com/a/PpEsK
I didn't take a screenshot of every transaction because it would take around 5 to 7 images also heres the intel security manager i was talking about
I said i didn't know about the tf2 things going till later in several comments because my inventory was still relatively full at 300 items or so where as i immediately noticed all of my cards being gone
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21 is the amount of wallet credit they stole they took well over a hundred dollars in cards and tf2 items.
you sound like a self absorbed know it all your very hostile and just plain rude https://imgur.com/cBpDvUE https://imgur.com/a/PpEsK
I didn't take a screenshot of every transaction because it would take around 5 to 7 images also heres the intel security manager i was talking about
I was wondering how it could be over 1 hundred $ of cards (there should be thousand, not a dozen) and tf2 items from the first screenshot you posted.
You're explaining things very badly, and did what happened hard to believe. Don't expect people to trust you.
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You do realize the burden of proof is on you to prove your claims, not the other way around?
Right-click>imgur>capture page : takes a screenshot of teh entire webpage in 3 clicks/1 image
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Your story, sincerely, is full of inconsistencies.
Think about who has physical access to your phone and talk to him/her.
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Wow, I remember your anti-Steam Guard thread last month. Doesn't removing it give you a 3 day trade ban normally? That happened when I changed my phone but didn't do it properly. But yeah, just report the hacker with your trade history etc and don't push your agenda please.
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I needed a good laugh and this topic delivered. It feels like one of those Russian dashboard cam videos where the guy runs out in front of the car and throws himself on it a few times to act like he's been hit.
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How often you visit your account? What item you can by for 2 cents if minimum prices is 3 cents?
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It sounds like some kind of 'steam profile javascript exploit'.
Contact to Steam Support (less emotions / more cooperation).
PS. Pls, remove advice to not using mobile authenticator.
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And that's why i use NoScript addon and block all javascript sources that arent whitelisted manually by me. You wouldn't believe from how many different sources some websites get their javascript...
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2FA does not help if someone buys 1 emoticon = all your wallet funds.
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"No idea how they got my password possibly some site linked to my steam account got leaked"
The Steam API doesn't work that way. Your password does not get stored on the site you're linked to.
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Don't expect him to understand OpenID after all the nonsense he's posted in here.
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Kinda strange they can turn off 2 steps verification since you first need access to a phone to enter the account.
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Can you post a screenshot of the email (mostly the date/time) saying that your 2factor authentication has been disabled ?
[again being careful to blockout any sensitive info]
Most of the people calling you a liar right now, are basing that on the claim your 2auth was turned off somehow BEFORE the trades were made. The bigger scope of the claim means way more skepticism.
It seems far more likely that you're mistaken about the timeline. I suspect that because you received the email before noticing the trades, you probably processed the order of events as the same way without noticing the email's timestamp.
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I was wrong i just got time stamps that said it was wrong and that the email was sent at the right time rather than the usual 10 minute wait
Also support is now out right lying to me steam should be taken to court because this is theft think about it if it was a credit card on file they would have to refund every last penny
Also being that the time stamps are correct that means intel security management is hacked and i have no idea how to get rid of this bloatware pc ruining trash
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If it was cash you lost, nobody would have to pay you back.
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I just had everything stolen from my steam account all my money 21 dollars i had for the steam sale gone down the fucking drain.
No idea how they got my password possibly some site linked to my steam account got leaked or a lucky guess either way my Christmas is ruined and years of cards emoticons and backgrounds are now lost
It seems that those who have access to your steam account ie password cracking/breaches/guessing can now turn off 2 step verification and take everything and anything because i had the mobile authenticator and got an email stating that it had been turned off even though whoever did this could have had no access to my authenticator to verify themselves
so don't buy any steam wallet cards ever keep your steam account at zero dollars or 2 cents as 2 cents cant be spent on the community market where they can blow everything and valve seems to refuse to give you refund option for it
and make sure to not use the mobile authenticator ever as i personally at least never had any issues with email verification but mobile seems to slip up and let some things go through without a second verification i noticed this myself and thought nothing of it because i had used steam on my browser on my computer before
sorry if this is long and rambly im just having an awful time the steam sale was all i was looking forward to this christmas and that was ruined and all the emoticons i worked on gathering for years were just stolen like it was nothing OH AND THE ASS LEFT ME WITH ONE EMOTICON ITS FUCKING DEVIOUS FROM SURUGI WITH THE DESCRIPTION I'LL ERASE IT ALL, EVERYTHING! sigh HE HAD TO RUB IT IN WHAT AN ASSHOLE YOU HAVE MY MONEY YOU DESTROYED ALL MY SHIT AND YOU LEAVE ME WITH THIS UGGG sigh
TLDR Dont have money on your steam account and never ever use mobile verification
UPDATE they got in through intel securtiy managment a bloatware peice of software that came with a bios update i also cant figure out how to get rid of it. My time on the email was also spot on rather than 10 minuites late like i had thought
New TLDR steam support is trash and Intel put what is essentially a hackers dream into my bios
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