It is fast as hell but still feels more restrictive than Vivaldi (which is slow, I admit, but I never cared about browser speed that much compared to usability).
Comment has been collapsed.
+1 for Vivaldi. Usability is awesome. More people should give it a try.
Comment has been collapsed.
What's special about it? What would it do for me that Chrome can't? Legit questions.
Comment has been collapsed.
I also use Chrome, but not as my main browser. So I don't know if it can do these things with extensions/addons, but here are some of my favorite Vivaldi features (in no particular order) that it can do out of the box without extension:
- side panel that gives you quick and easy access to bookmarks, downloads, history etc. Just click anywhere on the left edge of the screen to open it. It opens the bookmark list on the bookmark you used last. It is by far the fastest way to access my bookmarks in any browser and one of the most important features for me.
- the color scheme changes based on the background and design of the web page being visited (took this from the wiki as I did not know how to describe it). This is just a cosmetic feature, but it is nice as it kind of blends the tabs with the web page.
- mouse gestures (again, no extension needed). Important for me as I mostly use a laptop and do not always have a external mouse.
- hibernation of tabs. If you are like me and use a lot of tabs this will free resources. There are sites that I only use once in a while but would forget visiting if I had no tab for them.
- previewing tabs (FF and Chrome don't seem to have this oddly enough, seems so simple). Shows you a preview of the tab’s contents when you hover over the tab. Useful when you have a lot of tabs and it only shows the first three letters of the title (as it does for me).
- you can use Chrome extensions as it uses the same rendering engine. Not important for me, but maybe for you as you are coming from Chrome.
- capture page with the click of a button. With a screenshot you can only save what is visible to you in that moment. Capture page let's you save a full page screenshot directly to .png or .jpg. You can also save a selection of a web page by simply drawing a box around it.
- a few little things you can easily access from the toolbar at the bottom, like:
-- toggle images and animation if you can't be bothered with that one notoriousy flashy site and just want to read or you just want to save bandwidth
-- filter black & white. Turn everything on the web page black&white. Again, easier reading on flashy sites.
-- and a few more filters like Filter Invert (if you prever white text on black background), Fonts Monospace (if you come across a site that uses an obnoxious and almost unreadable font) or Reader View.
There is a lot more of course. If you're interested go over to their help page. A lot of the features are explained with videos which is probably preferable to me describing it so-so.
That took way too long to write for the few people that will actually read it. ;)
Comment has been collapsed.
It is appreciated nevertheless. Might give it a look although speed is important for me.
Comment has been collapsed.
I don't think it is slow by any means. Just try it and use it as a second browser maybe. I always use three browsers simultaneously for different stuff and to split up the many tabs 🙄
Comment has been collapsed.
Do you know if the SG scripts are working on Vivaldi? Basically non-existent now on Firefox.
Will take a little while to migrate all my bookmarks, passwords, etc, which is the main reason I'm sticking to Firefox...it does a great job of syncing across the numerous devices that I review and test and don't need to remember all my passwords, bookmarks and the likes.
Comment has been collapsed.
I do not know that, sorry. I'm also using the latest Firefox for SG, but I have not experienced any problems with my scripts since I switched from Greasemonkey to Tampermonkey. Maybe try that?
Comment has been collapsed.
This is who I thought of when I read that name XD and this vivaldi
Comment has been collapsed.
Well FF updated and works like shit since then. Addons are semi-working as well, though some of them updated and don't have the "legacy" note next to their name anymore.
Comment has been collapsed.
New look is kinda weird on Windows 7 but other than that, it seems to be doing fine so far! I've got 10+ tabs open rn, with esgst, and it's still smooth as hell
Comment has been collapsed.
I wish I could do that. Chrome does something that slows my PC to a crawl and eventually freezes it. Forces me to hard reboot.
Comment has been collapsed.
Is your browser corrupted?
Try Canary and see if you experience the same thing.
https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html
Comment has been collapsed.
Damn, that sucks. I take it you've tried searching for a solution? Did you ever try turning off hardware acceleration? I remember having to do that for Chrome on my laptop.
Comment has been collapsed.
"Oh no, Google knows my browsing habits & the webpages I've visited!" Yeah, I couldn't give a two fucks if I'm being spied on. lol
Just about everything you do these days is being monitored one way or another, without your knowledge, whether you like it or not. Your smartphone, apps on your devices, Your OS, Facebook, Your smart TV, your car, emails, toys, Your ISP, your phone carrier, your watches or those stupid fitbit thingies. The list goes on. Every company etcetera etcetera is doing it. Google is not the first, nor will they be the last.
Comment has been collapsed.
Yes, only because you accept.
- My smartphone doesn't spy on me because I only use custom OS and always check permissions before I install an app.
- My Facebook doesn't spy on me because I don't use it.
- I'm doing everything I can about my ISP and other web sites. I'm using Opera/Firefox with VPN always running together with dns-crypt, uBlock Origin and NoScript.
The difference is you're fine with all of these, I'm not. Until the whole topic of "spying" is better regulated and customers actually gain some rights throughout the world (maybe some more laws by EU? I don't know), I'm taking measures. I'm not saying it's 100% safe, of course not. But it's better than "Meh, Google can track every single step I take, everyone does anyway."
Comment has been collapsed.
Has screwed my Greasemonkey in 2 computers. Had to go to tampermonkey and redownload scripts.
Comment has been collapsed.
Turned off automatic FF updates a week ago, wont be upgrading until I'm sure it wont break things.
Comment has been collapsed.
The best reason I had to prefer Firefox over Chrome is gone, the extension I used to change tabs on mouseover without clicking (yes, I'm that lazy).
If anyone has a fix for this in either Firefox or Chrome (using the latest version) I'll create a new giveaway in this thread.
Comment has been collapsed.
Sure, I was using TabMixPlus, but there were other extensions that did the same.
Comment has been collapsed.
WebExtension's API that's required by TabMixPlus haven't been finalized, so the developer of that addon can't make WebExtension-compliant addon. The developer said he'll make it happen, but dunno when. Basically, Mozilla broke every single thing that made TabMix worked, so yeah the 'fault' is on them.
As far as I'm aware, there's no suitable replacement (WE-compliant) for that addon.
Comment has been collapsed.
:(
And I haven't been able to find a Chrome based replacement either :(
Comment has been collapsed.
If you can bear with some annoyances, there's a way.
Download and install Firefox Nightly .
Start Firefox and set the preference 'extensions.legacy.enabled' to true in about:config.
Install https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-mix-plus/versions/beta/.Comment has been collapsed.
I am using Classic Theme Restorer for some time now so I don't see much changing in Firefox, if the add something new, I can just hide the icon and it's fine for me.
Did it change so much after this last update?
Comment has been collapsed.
Only WebExtension add-ons are now supported, a huge change.
Comment has been collapsed.
Sorry for the possible dumb question, but what are WebExtension add-ons?
Comment has been collapsed.
I assume you know what browser add-ons are, so...
WebExtension is an API through which ALL Firefox add-ons must now operate. This removed the possibility to do many things which were previously possible through other methods. Many add-ons were made unusable as a result of this.
If you don't use browser add-ons this has no effect on you. Or if you were lucky enough that all the add-ons you use were re-made to work with WebExtensions (if they didn't already use it).
Comment has been collapsed.
Thanks, yes I knew what add-ons were, just never knew there were different methods.
I tried the new version because it updated on its own and it's way to much!!
Comment has been collapsed.
I went back to version 56 for now and unabled auto-update until they make something just like that add-on.
Comment has been collapsed.
For one thing, Classic Theme Restorer won't work anymore. The whole big thing about Firefox Quantum is that it uses a whole new addon framework called WebExtensions, and there is currently no WebExtensions API to do most of the things that Classic Theme Restorer does.
On the other hand, the general appearance of the whole browser has been overhauled, so if you happen to like the new look then you might not need Classic Theme Restorer.
Comment has been collapsed.
Yes, it doesn't work anymore and the change is huge!
I decided to go back to an older version until they make add-ons for the new version that I can use.
Comment has been collapsed.
AFAIK Classic Theme Restorer will lose/has lost most of its functionality due to the addon restrictions.
Edit: Beaten to it.
Comment has been collapsed.
Seems faster, but I lost some add-ons which can no longer function in this new version.
Biggest grievance is the grey on grey scrollbar and the addon which allowed to change the colors is one of the ones which can't be made to work anymore.
Comment has been collapsed.
I had no idea there was one to change the scroll bar colour, which one do you use so I can get it when it's fixed for FF57. The grey on grey has been driving me nuts for years, especially on long web pages or when I'm tired.
Comment has been collapsed.
I used this one https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noiascrollbars/
However it can't be fixed, as far as I know, as the new extension system doesn't allow that kind of changes to made to the browser ui. I searched for a solution yesterday for couple of hours and no solution exists for now. It seems the scrollbar colors come from the operating system so it's also Windows which has crappy colors, and Firefox doesn't allow changes like other browsers do. It is possible to purchase some third party software which allows operating system template changes and might change the scrollbar colors too. Don't want to pay for it so I no idea if it really works.
There were also some references that somekind of userinterface API would possibly be added at some point which might allow doing what the addon did.
Comment has been collapsed.
Oh, that's a bummer but thanks for letting me know anyway!
Comment has been collapsed.
God awful would be my answer.
I did a clean install of windows and installed FF together with Chrome.
For some unexplained reason FF starts to hog memory like a black hole with no explanation.
As long as it's open for more than an hour it's going to start draining it until it crashes or becomes unusable so I restart it.
What is worse I don't even have that many tabs open at once (10 tabs is max while 4 to 6 is the usual average for me) and I tried testing it with only homepage (google) is open and as soon as it hits 1h+ mark it starts absorbing memory :(
So I'm not happy at all since now I have 2 browsers which hog memory more than the games I play :(
This might kill my old chap who is sadly already 9 years old </3
Comment has been collapsed.
For some unexplained reason FF starts to hog memory like a black hole with no explanation.
As long as it's open for more than an hour it's going to start draining it until it crashes or becomes unusable so I restart it.
I had the same problem. Took me some fruitless reinstalls until I identified Malwarebytes Anti-Ransomware as the culprit. Maybe that is it for you, too?
Comment has been collapsed.
I do have it but I had it before too and it never caused any problems :(
Comment has been collapsed.
I had it installed for many months, too. It just started to cause problems recently, maybe with an update. Try deactivating it in msconfig if you don't want to deinstall it completely.
Comment has been collapsed.
sounds more like a memory problem
you said 9years old....what was standard there 1-2GB Ram ?
if so its not enough for a modern browser+OS
Comment has been collapsed.
My PC can run Witcher 3 on high at 30 FPS, it has 8GB of memory so it's not up to it :P
Comment has been collapsed.
hm okay pretty much for that age (i mean the ram)
i can run on one of my older systems 11 to 13 years old hardware - guild wars 2 world vs world (sometimes 150+ player pvp battles)
with 20-40 fps on low to medium setting ...but browsers send this system sometimes to the graveyard ;O
may its a FF only problem - i had something similar with older versions of FF i think it was 51 and 52.0 it crashed always after 1-2 hours with just 4-6 Tabs.... just a handful people had that problem i googled a lot to fix
the problem disappeared then 2 versions later
Maybe you should try a older version of FF or switch to another browser there are many more as just FF and Chrome
try Opera, Vivaldi, Avantbrowser to name just a few
Comment has been collapsed.
Thanks for advice :)
I actually installed opera, and I have to say I'm quite pleased with it.
Googling I discovered that it's a rare problem which is basically just stroke of luck and there is no permanent solution to it :(
There are several of them but it varies from one person to the other.
Comment has been collapsed.
FYI, if anyone wants to go back to the old Firefox, the ESR version (meant for large organisations) will still be using the old interface and extensions etc until mid-2018 I think
They still release security updates for it as well
Comment has been collapsed.
I'm stuck with using the ESR version at work. Not a fan of it, but it's better than the alternative of IE.old.
Comment has been collapsed.
You can use this instead: https://www.waterfoxproject.org/
Comment has been collapsed.
I'll stay with Cyberfox v52 for like a year and then switch to PaleMoon or similar which supports classic addons.
Will never support this idiotic move when half of my stuff essential for effectiveness & ease of use stops working.
Comment has been collapsed.
It's pretty darned fast, but like others said greasemonkey doesn't seem to work, had to switch to tampermonkey and redownload a lot of scripts , old themes went out the window for the time being and my pretty scrollbar overlay to replace this atrocious giant white scrollbar doesn't work for the time being either. sighs
For what it's worth streams and the bttv extension work fine on the quantum, the old firefox kept rubberbanding when watching streams so bad on me lately it was becoming unbearable. SteamGifts with the ESGST extension is much faster than it used to be too.
Comment has been collapsed.
Not interested in losing 70% of my add-ons. Not sure what I'll do when security updates because needed...
That new version sucks, but was brought upon us by all the computer illiterate who want nothing but "speed" from a browser. I remember of a time when the pitch was "Try Firefox, it has tons of great extensions". Good old times...
Comment has been collapsed.
Firefox 52 EST will continue to get security updates until well into next year, so you can move onto that. By then the Firefox devs will hopefully have implemented enough WebExtensions APIs for your favourite addons to be updated or replaced.
Comment has been collapsed.
Yeah, I thought about that but I'm still unsure about it... I've had problems with some extensions in Tor Browser (which is based on 52 ESR) in the past. I guess I'll see.
Comment has been collapsed.
The problem is my affected extensions are, as far as I know, unique to Fx because precisely they can't be made via the WebExtension system. Things like RefControl, Small Tabs, Tamper Data...
But maybe some solutions will come up later, so I might just use Fx ESR, as BarefootMonkey suggests, to wait until add-on developers catch up a bit. Interesting thing though :)
Comment has been collapsed.
Oh... I knew about them but last time I checked they were basically just "Firefox built in 64 bits". Glad to see they seem to be doing more now. They look, like, a Palemoon who forked later ^^
Comment has been collapsed.
Feel and look good, faster then previous. Windows 7 64-bit.
But tabs looks bad.(
Comment has been collapsed.
Can't tell, my Chrome is working extremely well with me.
Comment has been collapsed.
Before 57.0 version, something in their updates messed Firefox really bad so I started to use SlimJet Browser (Chromium based) and Opera. I knew Firefox Quantum was gonna be released today and so far It´s working great. It may use a bit more RAM than Chromium browsers but It´s a huge improvement overall( probably on par or even faster).
Comment has been collapsed.
Chat on Facebook isn't working anymore since the update.
Comment has been collapsed.
In last seconds deleted downloaded update before ff restart. Will stay in previous version for same time. p0revious ff version with forced multitasking works great even with outdated extensions. For now too risky to move to ff 57 as I used to many extensions
Comment has been collapsed.
Don't use too much extensions and FF 57 is such a big improvement that I'm pleased with the update. Working flawlessly.
Comment has been collapsed.
I stopped updating firefox ages ago when an update broke... something I don't recall but annoyed me enough I said fuck it, went back to previous versions and never bothered with updates again.
Comment has been collapsed.
I've been back and forth between Chrome and Firefox lately, and with v57 I thought maybe I would switch for good, but I always end up coming back to Chrome, it's always been the best and fastest one for me and never lets me down.
Comment has been collapsed.
Anyone try the new firefox and Steamgifts? I usually have a lot of tabs which slows down Chrome considerably. Anyone try it out yet? With and without extensions?
Comment has been collapsed.