I saw descriptions like "Don't say 'Thank You' or there will be a reroll".

Are you allowed to put your own rules in the giveaway and reroll, if the winner didn't adhere?

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Yes, you can do that in private giveaways or in (small/private) groups.

Every rule has to be approved by support before you can put it down.

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If it's a private or group giveaway and support approves it, why not?

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i think he means normal public giveaways & nothing private/approved.

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You COULD just create a giveaway with that one friend.

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But then you don't get the contribution value. You need multiple entries.

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Are you giving users hints to commit feedback fraud?

You do know that committing such an act, even giving advices for it, usually comes with a permanent suspension, right?

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Oh god, but I just came back from my suspension. :(
I was just wondering, should I send it to support if I get an idea on how to abuse the system next time or just keep it to myself?
I edited the main comment by the way, but I didn't know that and I did read the FAQ...

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Sharing it with support would be better, but we're aware of most of the commonly used "tricks" anyway.

Your edit saved you. In a situation like you mentioned, we'd either suspend all of the users that are in the act, or remove all of the ineligible winners from the giveaway, or we can just deny your blacklist and reject the reroll. Keep in mind that when you get permission for a blacklist, you get a permission to have one. Support may not necessarily agree with the names on it.

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Ok, thank you for clarifying.

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Could but I'm sure support would probably crack down on it by the time you get to the 5th entry.

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No.

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If someone tried to scam me(such as ask for the key before the giveaway is over) then I would re-roll if they actually did end up winning.

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and i believe that would grant you a reroll even in public GA, as the winner would also got suspended for it :)

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Man, someone added me on steam and I thought it was for a game they won but they were just begging for the current giveaway which had not even ended. I would have done the same thing (and hoped I wouldn't be punished).

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hmm maybe

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Thanks for NecroVision

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No problem. More to come.

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I asked a Support for clarification on this too - because I've seen more and more PUBLIC giveaways say that they will request a re-roll if the winner didn't "Thank them". Was told they COULD NOT do this in PUBLIC, but it is perfectly acceptable in Private/Group giveaways.

Now I have some personal moral issues with the whole idea of re-roll for not getting an e-thank, but as long as it is NOT allowable in Public giveaways, I have no technical issue with the rules as given.

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I think you read the OP the wrong way round. I recall the giveaway in question, and the gifter was planning to request a re-roll if he/she DID get a "thank you" from the winner.

Regardless, what you say about the rules is entirely correct. That said, it clearly means something to the gifter, so in respecting their wishes I didn't include a "thank you" in my response.

The only option the gifter has here is to withhold the gifter and suffer the "not received" strike if they really have a problem with being thanked :)

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The problem I see with this is that some people might say thank you in the chat, like me for example. I don't want to spend about 30 minutes commenting on EVERY public giveaway that I've entered, because that's just too long. If I win the game, then I'll say thank you. Otherwise, it's really just optional as a thank you for giving away the game in general. Personally, I appreciate that they're giving away the game(s), but not enough to actually comment on every giveaway.

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You seem to have read the OP back to front as well, but nevertheless, you make a point, if not an entirely related one.

In some cases, the gifter doesn't care about being thanked or not being thanked, but if you've read the description and they've asked for something, providing it isn't signing up to some social networking group or website I have no interest in belonging to, I'm usually happy to oblige, since it's obviously important to them.

It really doesn't take very long to write a response in every giveaway you enter (unless you have fingers like ham hocks), but each to their own. I think the least you can do is take a few seconds to read the description, though :)

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I apologise, but I did read the OP properly. I was just talking about conditions in general, but specifically Geedorah's example. My problem isn't that it takes long, though. It's that some people seem to expect everyone to say thank you. If I win, I always make sure to say thank you. I guess that could be seen as rude, but if I don't win, it's the same as if I had not entered.

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In that case, apologies for misjudging :)

As far as saying "thanks" goes, again, each to their own. Personally I want to thank people for purchasing the game, offering me a chance to win it, and contributing to the community by giving stuff away, but the subject of thanking has been debated at excruciating length, a thousand times in a thousand threads, and I don't recall a single person changing their position based on the arguments put forward.

If someone doesn't specify a preference, just continue in default mode, thanking (or not thanking) them for the giveaway. If it's clearly stated in the description that thanks is not what they want, isn't it sensible to do something else? While a re-roll isn't going to happen, that's not really the point. If someone does or doesn't want to be thanked, why would you upset them by doing or not doing so? :)

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Well, I respect your opinion, so I'll just drop it. Last thing I'll say though : I would agree with anyone that thanking is a form of respect, but I just do so much in one day that I can't be bothered to make time. My loss, I suppose.

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As I said, the subject has been debated long and hard, and caused a huge amount of rancor in the SG community whenever it has been discussed.

The short answer to the OP is "no - the giveaway will not be re-rolled in this case". I do question the mentality of people who can't respect the wishes of the gifter in something so simple, and prefer to bring up legalistic arguments rather than just saying something other than "thanks" in their response.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I appreciate the OP is simply seeking clarification on the site rules, and nothing more, so I'm not attacking him/her!
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It might stem from the 'auto thank you' script posted recently. In that perspective I could understand the 'dont give me your automated pewp' theory. Still not a very legit reason to do a re-roll. One should accept the randomness of the system, and not use a re-roll just to get the gift to the few perfect candidates meeting the standards one puts in the description.

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"It might stem from the 'auto thank you' script posted recently."

That's one of the reasons.

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Why can't I add such rules? When I make a giveaway I want to be able to put "say thank you = reroll" rules in the description + tell the users to instantly delete me upon accepting the gift via email without messaging me once.

I'm weird like that.

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Presumably because Support have better things to do than sanctioning a bazillion re-rolls for your giveaway, simply because a sizeable number of public giveaway entrants either won't bother to read, or will simply be unable to understand your additional rules.

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Well, you can't make rules in public giveawaya anyway.

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You can. IF you are making a group or private giveaway, and you have obtained permission from Support prior to creating the giveaway.

Public giveaways cannot have special limitations like that. You can put whatever you want, but if you try and claim a reroll on a public giveaway for non-standard rules you're trying to have enforced, your reroll request will be turned down, and you're still obligated to finish the giveaway process for the winner or get a Not Received.

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